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Kuzmorgo
Hungary1058 Posts
On June 10 2012 19:16 Qbek wrote: It's from wc3 item scroll of town portal. But I usually call it "Scroll of team play" Hmm it can also be scroll of more gold though  i know it doesn't rhyme... | ||
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Chakoi
United Kingdom81 Posts
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PassiveAce
United States18076 Posts
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Firebolt145
Lalalaland34501 Posts
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Chakoi
United Kingdom81 Posts
Well in the future. When it's free for everyone | ||
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SKC
Brazil18828 Posts
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Garnet
Vietnam9033 Posts
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Dead9
United States4725 Posts
On June 11 2012 10:03 Garnet wrote: does Quelling Blade work on friendly creep (when we attack them when they're low health)? no | ||
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Grombidal
Sweden49 Posts
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flamewheel
FREEAGLELAND26782 Posts
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Garnet
Vietnam9033 Posts
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D4V3Z02
Germany693 Posts
On June 10 2012 19:31 Kuzmorgo wrote: Hmm it can also be scroll of more gold though i know it doesn't rhyme... aka scroll of big plays | ||
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kamicom
United States180 Posts
I've played primarily the Quake, Counter-Strike, and Starcraft franchises as an avid competitor in games. These games all have really high skill ceilings and a variety of mechanics which allow for dynamic play. But people started to play DOTA which seemed fun-- but I'm not convinced it was designed for competitive play. With the plethora of heroes that a team can pick, it seems too erratic given that one composition could have an advantage over the other. Also, whenever I watch MOBA matches, once one team starts gaining an advantage, it snowballs into a 30-minute losing fest of the other team slowly getting pushed back to their base. The units move slow and there doesn't seem to be that much dynamic play (other than the strategical teamwork aspect). Honestly, I'm not trolling, I want to get into new games but I just don't see the high skill ceiling in the game. | ||
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5-s
United States1674 Posts
On June 12 2012 17:11 kamicom wrote: Truly, I'm trying to be honest and open-minded about this but can someone convince me why MOBA games like DOTA2 are competitive? I've played primarily the Quake, Counter-Strike, and Starcraft franchises as an avid competitor in games. These games all have really high skill ceilings and a variety of mechanics which allow for dynamic play. But people started to play DOTA which seemed fun-- but I'm not convinced it was designed for competitive play. With the plethora of heroes that a team can pick, it seems too erratic given that one composition could have an advantage over the other. Also, whenever I watch MOBA matches, once one team starts gaining an advantage, it snowballs into a 30-minute losing fest of the other team slowly getting pushed back to their base. The units move slow and there doesn't seem to be that much dynamic play (other than the strategical teamwork aspect). Honestly, I'm not trolling, I want to get into new games but I just don't see the high skill ceiling in the game. A novice looking on at a soccer match can probably say a lot of the same things you just did (moves slow, can't even use hands, only feet; wtf? low skill ceiling) You're not watching competitive dota 2 games much if it snowballs that as often as you say - a lot of the games between the higher skill teams are very dynamic and back and forth. Timing and micro can be as intensive as some RTS games (probably not as much as broodwar, but certainly compareable to games like war3) The high skill ceiling is indeed primarily in the teamwork - mechanically, some second tier teams can be as good individually as the top ones, but their teamwork is where they will be lacking. Not sure about your comment with the whole picking different compositions - this happens in a lot of competative games (Sports games, fighting games, etc.) Sure it's possible to outpick an opponent, that's part of the game, but it doesn't result in an auto-win or loss usually. | ||
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Ajeis13
United States6 Posts
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PassiveAce
United States18076 Posts
On June 13 2012 03:45 Ajeis13 wrote: Is TL considering having their own dota 2 team? Nope. I dont actually speak for teamliquid but i am like 99.999999% sure that is their answer. | ||
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Archas
United States6531 Posts
I tried watching a stream by somebody named "Tobi Wan Kenobi" who seems to be a wildly popular caster of the game. Despite my best efforts to remain engaged with the casting, I simply couldn't understand anything that was going on. I know some basic DotA terms and such, like what a BKB is, or what it means to deny, or why Roshan is important. The problem is that I feel like I need to have intimate knowledge of EVERY hero and EVERY item to fully enjoy and appreciate the game of DotA II as a spectator sport, and that seems like sheer busywork to learn and memorize if you're not a player. Given that I do not have the means to PLAY DotA II, I ask this of you, TeamLiquid: what is the best way for an aspiring spectator of DotA II to learn more about the game to appreciate it more? If I can't absorb the knowledge I need through more streamwatching, should I just man up and use a wiki or something? | ||
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Dead9
United States4725 Posts
it's pretty difficult to understand the game without at least a basic understanding of the heroes/items if you wanna try out dota1 here's an ai map for the current version of dota http://www.mediafire.com/?vc3s9xejqgybqi6 type "-ap" when the game starts to make it all pick, then pick a hero via the taverns or type "-random" to random a hero alternately you can look through playdota.com for all of the items/hero skills but it's a lot of information | ||
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Goshawk.
United Kingdom5338 Posts
But, if you really want to just watch the game I advise you either watch or read various guides (check out the OP or various commentators on youtube. eg. purgegamers) so you can learn the basics of the game/heroes. You basically need to learn to play the game I guess without actually playing it (as weird as that sounds). I don't really agree that you need to have intimate knowledge of every hero and every item, but you certainly need to know the basics of what they do. Tbh, most people won't have a really deep understanding of what's going on in the game (kinda like how SC2 casters can completely miss interpret something) and just watch it for the action. Kinda rambling so....... tl;dr learn to play the game without playing it. >_> | ||
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Tobberoth
Sweden6375 Posts
That said, just get a new computer and get a key. keys are given away constantly and if you can't wait for that, just ask someone to buy a key for you in the dota 2 store. | ||
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