[Hero] Lycan - Page 19

On March 15 2014 16:02 KwarK wrote:

"if not bottle crowing" is a way of saying that I'm talking about a situation when bottle crowing is not happening so we're not buying a bottle, not sure why you read that into it. The reason that got brought up is cause someone went nec3 before boots in a progame recently.

1) You can't bottle crow rtz style cause no reliable courier access
2) You need to return to the fountain all the fucking time rather than relying on getting items seconds after you have the gold for them because flying courier at 3 minutes isn't common and priority usage of it is even less common, you may wanna buy the ring at 3 minutes but you're not gonna get it until later.

It costs 450 gold but it represents an increase in gpm because you spend way less time fucking around when shit doesn't work out perfectly, when the camps are difficult or people hunt you or you can't get your items. Also level 7 and vlads after boots generally come around the same time for me, I don't want to be roshing any earlier, I'm not sure I'll be doing it any faster anyway. Even if you argue that it's gold you'd spend elsewhere you can't disagree that you get more done in X amount of time with the faster boots, the faster vlads doesn't get you faster farm because you're able to smash through the camps by level 3 onward anyway vlads or not. Your limiting factor on your exp/minute is not how close to vlads you are but how fast you can move, boots increases your exp/minute and therefore gets you to that crucial 7 faster.

Watch the game I linked earlier, the courier with morbid mask, recipe for vlads, smoke and clarity all arrived as I was level 6 and I had to knock out another camp to get 7 and rosh, getting them all 450 gold earlier would have amounted a slower rosh than I achieved because I wouldn't have the level to do it at the time and it'd actually take me longer to get the 7 because far more time would be spent wandering around with no boots.

You need to suicide all the time. Mid disappeared? Slash those wrists. Someone got an unknown rune? Life isn't worth living anymore. Offlaner disappeared? Time to write a note.

On April 16 2014 12:06 NeoRussia wrote:
necrobook 3 > travels > manta > refresher

On March 15 2014 02:39 Firebolt145 wrote:

Boots help with survivability against random roamers running into your jungle while you are weak and low in hp/mp in the beginning. Just because rtz pulls it off in one game when he's probably confident about his supports protecting him, with a low chance of the enemy ganking him, doesn't make it automatically better.

On April 17 2014 06:24 NeoRussia wrote:
I've only had trouble with enemies roaming on me when they have a good rune. Otherwise I quelling blade out, block with wolves, deny myself to neutrals, or just fight them. I've never had to get boots before first roshan, or even level my ultimate before level 4 wolves. Generally I buy a medallion or if I'm capable of doing roshan without one then a belt of strength before I get boots.

On April 18 2014 00:53 Bosu wrote:


What MMR are you in? I found it pretty easy to rosh at 8 minutes consistently without boots until I hit around 4800. Since then it has been significantly harder to roshan early, because people are much more aware of what is happening. Lately Ive been finding I simply need to go push and help my teammates for a bit first. Roshing when it is safer and not just asap.

On April 18 2014 02:51 govie wrote:


Im <3k and at my level roshtimings are almost allways gaurded especially against ursa and lycan by multiple teamm8's.