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HammerKick
Profile Blog Joined May 2013
France6190 Posts
October 10 2015 10:19 GMT
#61
Today I realized that at level 4 scorched earth allows you to regen 48 hp per second. Icefrog?

So, what boots do you go for as doom? Tranquils, phase, arcane, treads?
Tranquils sounds good with scorched earth, phase boots for the ms and damage, treads for stats, arcane if you go mek, etc.

Your opinions?
Well, it's high noon somewhere in the world
the bear jew
Profile Joined August 2014
United States3674 Posts
October 10 2015 12:39 GMT
#62
On October 10 2015 19:19 HammerKick wrote:
Today I realized that at level 4 scorched earth allows you to regen 48 hp per second. Icefrog?

So, what boots do you go for as doom? Tranquils, phase, arcane, treads?
Tranquils sounds good with scorched earth, phase boots for the ms and damage, treads for stats, arcane if you go mek, etc.

Your opinions?


I go phase, then travels later in game.
DeMoN pulled off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
Deleted User 261926
Profile Joined April 2012
960 Posts
October 10 2015 13:27 GMT
#63
On October 10 2015 19:19 HammerKick wrote:
Today I realized that at level 4 scorched earth allows you to regen 48 hp per second. Icefrog?

So, what boots do you go for as doom? Tranquils, phase, arcane, treads?
Tranquils sounds good with scorched earth, phase boots for the ms and damage, treads for stats, arcane if you go mek, etc.

Your opinions?

Why do tranquils sound good with scorched? If anything it's a reason to not get them.
Archeon
Profile Joined May 2011
3253 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-10-10 13:43:42
October 10 2015 13:35 GMT
#64
Has anyone tried to go soul ring before or after midas? I mean the hero has a pretty abysmal mana pool and two really useful spells, one of which he wants to never have off cd. I guess that's mainly useful for max devour builds first, since devour cd at low lvls is really high and you dont want to spam scorched earth unless jungle?

On October 10 2015 19:19 HammerKick wrote:
Today I realized that at level 4 scorched earth allows you to regen 48 hp per second. Icefrog?

So, what boots do you go for as doom? Tranquils, phase, arcane, treads?
Tranquils sounds good with scorched earth, phase boots for the ms and damage, treads for stats, arcane if you go mek, etc.

Your opinions?

I agree that scorched earth if anything is a replacement for tranqs. I mean tranqs is still good for armor and regen if off-lane, but I think doom is one of the heroes that can get away with brown boots into BoTs later in pretty much any lane/jungle, at least if you get an early blink.

Arcane if mek sounds decent, the hero's mana pool isnt to big.

Doom feels like his entire itemization is situational. Aghs refresher is somewhat core, but not really pinned down to a special timing and even then there are games when you want other items more than aghs because most of your targets are squishy and not break targets (WR f.e.)
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GiveMeYourtTots
Profile Joined May 2014
990 Posts
October 10 2015 14:21 GMT
#65
Pick this hero if you want to gain mmr.
HammerKick
Profile Blog Joined May 2013
France6190 Posts
October 10 2015 14:31 GMT
#66
On October 10 2015 22:27 Karpfen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 10 2015 19:19 HammerKick wrote:
Today I realized that at level 4 scorched earth allows you to regen 48 hp per second. Icefrog?

So, what boots do you go for as doom? Tranquils, phase, arcane, treads?
Tranquils sounds good with scorched earth, phase boots for the ms and damage, treads for stats, arcane if you go mek, etc.

Your opinions?

Why do tranquils sound good with scorched? If anything it's a reason to not get them.


Yeah that's true, but it's also a reason to go for them because it actually gives you even more movespeed than before.
And the additional armor is something you love on Doom.

Need to test the other boots tho
Well, it's high noon somewhere in the world
ahswtini
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Northern Ireland22208 Posts
October 10 2015 14:48 GMT
#67
why would u go tranqs when u already have scorched earth? be like a speed demon with phase (then add drums or sny) hitting ppl for dmg
"As I've said, balance isn't about strategies or counters, it's about probability and statistics." - paralleluniverse
SpiritoftheTunA
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States20903 Posts
October 10 2015 16:23 GMT
#68
On October 10 2015 15:05 Kaj wrote:
the only reliable jungler is engima lol. how fast doom jungles is largely dependent on if you get the wildkin creep to spawn or not. If its spawns its ez lvl 6 just by tornadoing a quad stack camp :D

??? tell that to an enigma with camps warded or an enigma against a silencer

jungle doom is arguably more robust/flexible, as much as people like to sing the praises of how enigma can jungle "properly"
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Kaj
Profile Joined April 2011
Singapore269 Posts
October 10 2015 16:32 GMT
#69
silencer vs enigma isnt even that bad. Engima has never been about the black hole. you pick enigma for the 7 min mek from jungling. so you can 5 man early and end. and the control over space Midnight gives you. Black hole is just a plus.
Kaj
Profile Joined April 2011
Singapore269 Posts
October 10 2015 16:34 GMT
#70
And no, doom is equally fucked, if his camps get warded. Basically any jungler is fucked. Enigma even if he only gets to work with 2 camps, can still get a 8 min mek with just 2 camps alone.
ChunderBoy
Profile Joined August 2011
3242 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-10-10 16:48:03
October 10 2015 16:47 GMT
#71
jungle doom sucks
safelane doom best
then offlane doom
phaseboots ALWAYS
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Kaj
Profile Joined April 2011
Singapore269 Posts
October 10 2015 18:25 GMT
#72
I have tried many games of jungle doom. Bottle is nearly a must for efficiency. Your first 2 camps determine your farm speed a lot.

If you get a troll summoner as your first big camp, it is great and speeds up your farm a lot, just being able to spam summons to stack for you and as well to clear the camps faster. Big satyr is great, for sustain, and gives you easy lvl 1. Helllbear is not optimal, but will give you lvl 2. Wildkin is worse early on. Especially if your big camp is a wildkin and the 2 small camps are centuar, then you can just cry yourself to sleep. if you stack the hard camp 4 times, and a wildkin never appears to spawn there as well, you can cry yourself to sleep as well, as you would probably be lvl 6 at like 8 mins lol.

With Enigma, I never had to give 2 shits about which camp spawns what. I am always able to clear and stack the camps at the required times, irregardless of whatevr spawns I get.
Atreides
Profile Joined October 2010
United States2393 Posts
October 11 2015 05:01 GMT
#73
What is general feeling on bottle on this hero when not jungling? (incidentally I am in the jungle doom is awful camp) I've been getting it most games when in offlane, but sometimes it feels not so great in hindsight. What about if you are safe? I assume no?
TheEmulator
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
28088 Posts
October 11 2015 07:51 GMT
#74
Doom feels a bit OP right now. Just tried 2 games with him and absolutely dominated in both. I felt like no one could do shit to me...

I like the Phase/SNY/vlads build so far. 2-4-0-1 build as well.
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DucK-
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Singapore11447 Posts
October 11 2015 10:38 GMT
#75
Actually the best jungler in the game is brood, for her speed, farm, immunity to ganks, and general menace to opposing supports.
Shock710
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Australia6097 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-10-11 11:02:32
October 11 2015 10:58 GMT
#76
my comp kept crashing, even in the middle of team fights but i was just so fast and tanky with the phase, drum, vlads, sny build i copied from beesa and i ended up on 12-1 (we won but i counted as an abandon due to the constant crashing) urs just like a train super fast and stomp everything in ur path.

dAPhREAk gives Shock a * | [23:55] <Shock710> that was out of context -_- [16:26] <@motbob> Good question, Shock!
trinxified
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada7774 Posts
October 11 2015 17:53 GMT
#77
On October 11 2015 16:51 TheEmulator wrote:
Doom feels a bit OP right now. Just tried 2 games with him and absolutely dominated in both. I felt like no one could do shit to me...

I like the Phase/SNY/vlads build so far. 2-4-0-1 build as well.


I better try this then... I'm probably losing with Doom because I rush Aghs
TheEmulator
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
28088 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-10-11 20:58:20
October 11 2015 20:30 GMT
#78
You still want aghs I think, there's just no reason to rush them.

edit: that is if you are playing the 1.
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Shock710
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Australia6097 Posts
October 11 2015 21:28 GMT
#79
is the aghs worth it over ac if u dont need the break? one of my games i felt it was closer than it should have been if i went ac instead with my item progression being, phase, basi,stick,drum, vlads, sny aghs
dAPhREAk gives Shock a * | [23:55] <Shock710> that was out of context -_- [16:26] <@motbob> Good question, Shock!
ahswtini
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Northern Ireland22208 Posts
October 11 2015 23:16 GMT
#80
aghs is still good item even if u dont need the break. u will probably need to get the casual platemail after sny, then aghs, and then finish platemail into ac/shivas
"As I've said, balance isn't about strategies or counters, it's about probability and statistics." - paralleluniverse
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