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Doom He that burns and is not consumed, devours and is never sated, kills and is beyond all judgment-Lucifer brings doom to all who would stand against him. Bearing away souls on the tip of a fiery sword, he is the Fallen One, a once-favored general from the realm behind the light, cast out for the sin of defiance: he would not kneel.
Six times his name was tolled from the great bell of Vashundol. Six and sixty times his wings were branded, until only smoking stumps remained. Without wings, he slipped loose from the tethers that bound him within the light and he fell screaming to earth. A crater in the desert, Paradise lost. Now he attacks without mercy, without motive, the only living being able to move freely between the seven dark dominions. Lashed by inescapable needs, twisted by unimaginable talents, Doom carries his own hell with him wherever he goes. Defiant to the last. Eventually, the world will belong to Doom.
For abilities, stats, and other information, visit this hero's Liquipedia page here: http://wiki.teamliquid.net/dota2/Doom
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It is sad when no one replies to this thread.
I have Doom in my 10 heroes challenge. Could anybody give me some tips?
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Jungle or offlane him. I can mostly give jungle advice. Rush basilius then midas. Don't be afraid to gank when you hit 6, doom is a ridiculous spell. You want to devour the big creep in the hard camp at level 1, ursas is a bad idea but other than that you should be okay. Start stout RoP and tango. After midas rush arcanes then mek, get alpha wolf aura and you are a teamfight monster. After that, finishing vlads isnt a bad idea, althought it might not be the best. Get aura items and/or team fight items. Pipe if you need one, for example. Practice jungling vs bots, doom jungle is pretty weird and depends on what camps you get. Pardon the horrible rambling and formatting and spelling, on my phone and typing fast lol
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I much prefer getting the centaur stomp and getting a blink if you are going the arcane/mek thing, feel like you bring more to the table, especially early on.
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Is his jungling speed really okay? I have seen lots of pub players who tried to jungle with Doom and failed.
Also I wanna know if Blink Aghanim is legit or not.
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On June 19 2014 13:48 walrus wrote: Is his jungling speed really okay? I have seen lots of pub players who tried to jungle with Doom and failed.
Also I wanna know if Blink Aghanim is legit or not. wildkin/troll is a good level 1 devour creep.
stack the camps and then use tornado on them for safe jungling while use the skeletons for tanking (if you get the troll) satyr is good for laning (dat regen).
eeeeh agha is not really that good as first item.
carry doom is like phase/drums/blink into sb/shivas/ac utility doom is like arcanes/mek/blink into shivas/refresher/aghs
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On June 19 2014 13:48 walrus wrote: Is his jungling speed really okay? I have seen lots of pub players who tried to jungle with Doom and failed.
Jungle Doom is very RNG-based unless you're doing pulls for your team. That's just the nature of it sadly.
He's a pretty good hero safelane/mid/offlane, so if you like consistency, it might be better just to lane him.
Also I wanna know if Blink Aghanim is legit or not.
It's a bit pubby, but it's a surprisingly strong build. I used to hate on Agh's Doom a lot, but it just does such an insane amount of damage, and can almost insta-gib most heroes mid-game. I think Blink ---> Shiva's is more stable, but Blink ---> Agh's is great for solo-killing.
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Anyone know iceiceice's offlane doom build? All I know is he goes stout, tranquils, wands from dotabuff. I don't really want to buy tickets for tournaments that are over.
I'm trying tranquils -> drums -> blink. It seems okay but I don't know if it's any good because matchmaking is cursing me with bad teams right now.
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Got Doom in ARDM. That dude is fun as shit when you get handed him and you have 14 skill points, a midas, treads, blink, and a mostly complete assault cuirass. I think I need to play some unranked with him cause he seems very strong. I figured phase boots are good for chasing, but treads would be nice for HP and such.... but then again tranqs have regen and armor.... which ones are best?
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Kill yourself if you pick this hero
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On June 21 2014 10:13 sickoota wrote: Kill yourself if you pick this hero
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On June 21 2014 09:33 rebdomine wrote:From what I've seen he goes Boots, Tango, Clarity and gets pooled 1 Tango. And then goes Tranqs -> Midas -> Mek (if no one else getting)/Drums -> BKB. You can look around more of his games here: http://www.datdota.com/player.php?q=82&player=iceiceice
Thanks the starting build works really well.
So it seems like you can have barely have enough mana for Doom + Mek + Scorched Earth with Wand, no Drums and depending on level. Gonna have to play some Mek 1st games to see if it works. Tranquils into Drums/Blink working for me so far though.
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his only weakness is low armor, ppl could say low mana, devour and fast levels fix that.
if you want to have a fun pub game this hero is the shit go MS build and u got almost haste ms all the time, not the most legit build but in pub who cares :D
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sacrificial tanky doom is so good. arcane mek blink shivas bkb into RFO luxury with frost armor skillzzz. jump in. doom. tank through 5 ultimates, maybe die, teammates bat clean up.
EE runs this so well I'm surprised they don't do it more often.
In solo pubs just Midas into right-click though lol.
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My pub jungle build:
- start with stout, quelling blade, tango - Work your way towards a midas. - Buy phase boots. - Max Q and W then take ulti (lvl 9.). Because of the midas, you do not have the items to gank at 6.
- If you need to gank ASAP get a Blink or Shadow Blade. Consider getting a drum. - Otherwise get a Radiance and farm more.
- Get Shivas, eat big wolf, kill some guys. - Disassemble the Shivas to get an AC and a Hex. Now you are a teamfight monster. - Get Basher -> Abyssal, get a Heart, get Boots of Travel.
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hmm the midas is alright, but I feel it's situational. For the same price you can get a blink and just start ganking the shit out of people, and if you do the midas rush you generally don't want to get boots quickly, which makes an already bad jungler, even worse because you depend entirely on your team to set up your doom and get the kill.
The midas could be good from jungle, but I'd definitely not consider it the default item to get. If you think you can get kills, then go for the brown boots mek. I also like going stout/quelling/tango --> bottle -->boots --> blink. The bottle feels really good on doom, although I haven't played much since the devour nerf, so I can't say how much that effects his jungling. If you get mek though, you need something to maintain your mana or you probably can't get your doom/mek off in a team fight, considering the mana costs of your other spells so either treads or arcanes would probably be the best solution to it, or depend on other heroes to regen your mana.
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On July 03 2014 01:26 loboscope wrote: My pub jungle build:
- start with stout, quelling blade, tango - Work your way towards a midas. - Buy phase boots. - Max Q and W then take ulti (lvl 9.). Because of the midas, you do not have the items to gank at 6.
- If you need to gank ASAP get a Blink or Shadow Blade. Consider getting a drum. - Otherwise get a Radiance and farm more.
- Get Shivas, eat big wolf, kill some guys. - Disassemble the Shivas to get an AC and a Hex. Now you are a teamfight monster. - Get Basher -> Abyssal, get a Heart, get Boots of Travel.
This seems like the epitome of AFK jungle Doom where you do nothing for your team and take up all the jungle farm for 20min and then have a mild impact afterwards if the game is still winnable thanks to your team. I would suggest not doing this unless you hate your team mates.
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On July 03 2014 03:02 12ozSkilletDota wrote:Show nested quote +On July 03 2014 01:26 loboscope wrote: My pub jungle build:
- start with stout, quelling blade, tango - Work your way towards a midas. - Buy phase boots. - Max Q and W then take ulti (lvl 9.). Because of the midas, you do not have the items to gank at 6.
- If you need to gank ASAP get a Blink or Shadow Blade. Consider getting a drum. - Otherwise get a Radiance and farm more.
- Get Shivas, eat big wolf, kill some guys. - Disassemble the Shivas to get an AC and a Hex. Now you are a teamfight monster. - Get Basher -> Abyssal, get a Heart, get Boots of Travel.
This seems like the epitome of AFK jungle Doom where you do nothing for your team and take up all the jungle farm for 20min and then have a mild impact afterwards if the game is still winnable thanks to your team. I would suggest not doing this unless you hate your team mates. Well thats kinda what jungle doom is but yes this build is even worse than your average already criminal pure-jungle doom build.
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On July 03 2014 03:34 Sn0_Man wrote:Show nested quote +On July 03 2014 03:02 12ozSkilletDota wrote:On July 03 2014 01:26 loboscope wrote: My pub jungle build:
- start with stout, quelling blade, tango - Work your way towards a midas. - Buy phase boots. - Max Q and W then take ulti (lvl 9.). Because of the midas, you do not have the items to gank at 6.
- If you need to gank ASAP get a Blink or Shadow Blade. Consider getting a drum. - Otherwise get a Radiance and farm more.
- Get Shivas, eat big wolf, kill some guys. - Disassemble the Shivas to get an AC and a Hex. Now you are a teamfight monster. - Get Basher -> Abyssal, get a Heart, get Boots of Travel.
This seems like the epitome of AFK jungle Doom where you do nothing for your team and take up all the jungle farm for 20min and then have a mild impact afterwards if the game is still winnable thanks to your team. I would suggest not doing this unless you hate your team mates. Well thats kinda what jungle doom is but yes this build is even worse than your average already criminal pure-jungle doom build.
Agreed, but getting a midas AND delaying ult is was more criminal than rushing blink or lothars and ganking with your doom.
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