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Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
October 18 2016 16:32 GMT
#2341
The next person to post something personal instead of a post regarding TEAM LIQUID as per the thread is getting a ban
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Nikto
Profile Joined May 2014
Slovakia410 Posts
October 18 2016 16:35 GMT
#2342
On October 19 2016 01:31 hunter_x wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 19 2016 01:19 Piledriver wrote:
On October 19 2016 01:12 Nikto wrote:
On October 19 2016 00:56 Piledriver wrote:
On October 19 2016 00:19 hunter_x wrote:
On October 19 2016 00:12 RolleMcKnolle wrote:
Is it just me or are they getting outdrafted and outlaned about every game?

And outplayed too. That game vs. VP was fucking horrible. Until yesterday they made good progress, but this looks like the liquid in their first dreamleague series. If they continue to stay like this, i will blame Bulba. Every Team he joined turned into shit. Even if its not his fault, maybe bad karma.


Nah, its just because of Kuro being a terrible drafter and shotcaller. I predict this team wont survive until the first major under his captaincy.

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I actually don't think that, but dear God, it feels so nice to do the same things that you have been doing in other threads like a dimwitted troll.


classy, oh wait, now you are just on his level not above, sad day for you


what do I do with my life now, Nikto from Slovakia has judged me over the internet.

Anyhoo, I think miracle was a better fit on OG because of the space that N0tail created. If Liquid wants to play 2x greedy cores, then their offlaner + support duo have to be Gods at making space (similar to Fata version C9 with PLD+Bone7 and the recent version of liquid with Jerax.) Bulba can be a good defensive support,but he doesn't have the playmaking capability in the early game. Kuro is also not particularly good at spacemaking IMO, so they are failing like the previous version of secret with 2x greedy cores.

An american insulting people with their country? You vote trump or what?


let him so he feels superior like many of them think they are, he probably saw eurotrip and thinks he knows everything...


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Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
October 18 2016 16:38 GMT
#2343
We have a winner

Any more takers?
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hunter_x
Profile Joined June 2014
Germany2762 Posts
October 18 2016 16:38 GMT
#2344
On October 19 2016 01:24 Laertes wrote:
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On October 19 2016 01:08 hunter_x wrote:
Sigh...what a shitshow. Did we really forgot how to play good dota or what? I want my old team back, this is not fun.


Trash NP qualifying for BTS over your precious Liquid. Sick karma bruh.

Yeah pretty hard against such world class teams like complexity, good job. Maybe you should wait until they actually achieve something before you start to brag. But i see what its all about. Now all the guys i insulted because i dont like envy, come out of the woodwork and start to flame because liquid is not doing so good. Enjoy it while it lasts i guess;)

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Deleted User 97295
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
1137 Posts
October 18 2016 16:39 GMT
#2345
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Deleted User 97295
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
1137 Posts
October 18 2016 16:40 GMT
#2346
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Pontual
Profile Joined October 2016
Brazil3038 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-10-18 16:43:09
October 18 2016 16:41 GMT
#2347
Worried for Liquid right now. They need a serious conversation, much like Fnatic did on True Sight. They're just not a team. Not in drafting, not in laning, not in decisions mid game. They only win when the other team is more awful or they opponents throw.
But here is hoping for one of my favorites for this season. They can do it.
GGman
Profile Joined July 2010
Czech Republic143 Posts
October 18 2016 16:49 GMT
#2348
I still think that after some time, they will get way better. The key thing imo is that they don't get demoralized and frustreted right now, I think if they stay positive and work together for like 10 more days, they are going to be tier 1 (again).
“Never argue with idiots. They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.”
Deleted User 97295
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
1137 Posts
October 18 2016 16:51 GMT
#2349
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Anamorph
Profile Joined September 2015
236 Posts
October 18 2016 16:53 GMT
#2350
On October 19 2016 01:39 Laertes wrote:
Team Liquid will probably work this out. Its just gonna be a painful experience for their fans.



Just interested - was there ever a team achieving nothing in the early stages like this liquid team and later on was dominate and won a valve event?
spudde123
Profile Joined February 2012
4814 Posts
October 18 2016 16:58 GMT
#2351
On October 19 2016 01:53 Anamorph wrote:
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On October 19 2016 01:39 Laertes wrote:
Team Liquid will probably work this out. Its just gonna be a painful experience for their fans.



Just interested - was there ever a team achieving nothing in the early stages like this liquid team and later on was dominate and won a valve event?


Wings? Though obviously pretty different circumstances, Liquid started as a team that surely expects to do great while Wings was a team full of players with little accomplishments.
Porcupinathy
Profile Joined November 2015
235 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-10-18 17:05:47
October 18 2016 16:58 GMT
#2352
On October 19 2016 01:53 Anamorph wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 19 2016 01:39 Laertes wrote:
Team Liquid will probably work this out. Its just gonna be a painful experience for their fans.



Just interested - was there ever a team achieving nothing in the early stages like this liquid team and later on was dominate and won a valve event?

The top two teams at the last TI.
Though I don't really think precedence is much a reason to worry. They've only played 13 official games so far, after all, and it's been just a week since their first. I wouldn't draw conclusions yet.
Land animal
Racket
Profile Joined July 2013
3023 Posts
October 18 2016 16:58 GMT
#2353
On October 19 2016 01:53 Anamorph wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 19 2016 01:39 Laertes wrote:
Team Liquid will probably work this out. Its just gonna be a painful experience for their fans.



Just interested - was there ever a team achieving nothing in the early stages like this liquid team and later on was dominate and won a valve event?

How long should it be taken into account?
Jinkku
Profile Joined February 2011
Finland36 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-10-18 17:04:39
October 18 2016 17:04 GMT
#2354
I'm sure they will get better with time, but these games are painful to watch AF.

I wouldn't mind if they lost because of a mental error or two, but underperforming on all fronts like this..
clusen
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany8702 Posts
October 18 2016 17:06 GMT
#2355
On October 19 2016 01:53 Anamorph wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 19 2016 01:39 Laertes wrote:
Team Liquid will probably work this out. Its just gonna be a painful experience for their fans.



Just interested - was there ever a team achieving nothing in the early stages like this liquid team and later on was dominate and won a valve event?

Uhm, NaVi 2013(when Kuro joined) was kinda terrible at first and then won basically everything except TI. Might have been the bootcamp they did in China :p
Anamorph
Profile Joined September 2015
236 Posts
October 18 2016 17:12 GMT
#2356
On October 19 2016 01:58 Porcupinathy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 19 2016 01:53 Anamorph wrote:
On October 19 2016 01:39 Laertes wrote:
Team Liquid will probably work this out. Its just gonna be a painful experience for their fans.



Just interested - was there ever a team achieving nothing in the early stages like this liquid team and later on was dominate and won a valve event?

The top two teams at the last TI.


They started poorly? From what I remember they were called the chinese hope and won tourneys before just playing against newbee time and time again?
They won summit or smth before ti, right?

I cant remember their early stages. DC was a surprise, but it was their only big achievement overall....
LemOn
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
United Kingdom8629 Posts
October 18 2016 17:17 GMT
#2357
Come on guys
Bulba's influence on drafts can be clearly seen, just give them time as the guys settle together.


Let's judge them after the first major I'd say
Much is the father figure that I miss in my life. Go Daddy! DoC.LemOn, LemOn[5thF]
Porcupinathy
Profile Joined November 2015
235 Posts
October 18 2016 17:19 GMT
#2358
On October 19 2016 02:12 Anamorph wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 19 2016 01:58 Porcupinathy wrote:
On October 19 2016 01:53 Anamorph wrote:
On October 19 2016 01:39 Laertes wrote:
Team Liquid will probably work this out. Its just gonna be a painful experience for their fans.



Just interested - was there ever a team achieving nothing in the early stages like this liquid team and later on was dominate and won a valve event?

The top two teams at the last TI.


They started poorly? From what I remember they were called the chinese hope and won tourneys before just playing against newbee time and time again?
They won summit or smth before ti, right?

I cant remember their early stages. DC was a surprise, but it was their only big achievement overall....

The current Wings roster formed in August 2015. They were favorites going into TI, but they were awful for a really long time before then.

DC's still hard to judge, and the Wings situation was very different, but those were just two quick recent examples. My point was that it isn't reasonable to judge whether Liquid can get better based on past teams' improvement at this point.
Land animal
FreakyDroid
Profile Joined July 2012
Macedonia2616 Posts
October 18 2016 21:36 GMT
#2359
I had high hopes for Liquid with this roster, but they've disappointed me so far. I realize its a bit early to judge, but I did not expect them to have such a rough start. They are one of my favorite teams and I hope they start kicking ass.
Smile, tomorrow will be worse
giftdgecko
Profile Joined February 2011
United States2126 Posts
October 18 2016 22:42 GMT
#2360
It's entirely possible they really haven't scrimmed yet. Players need a break after TI and the change to Miracle and Bulba will take time to adjust. Kuro's drafts were pretty poor at certain points last year as well but they figured it all out. He's already found some things that work well, including the Matu void. They missed the first major last year, I wouldn't be totally surprised if they missed this first one.
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