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hunter_x
Profile Joined June 2014
Germany2762 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-10-17 18:11:11
October 17 2016 18:10 GMT
#2301
Game against alliance was really good, great comeback from the boys. Would recommend it to anyone!
YourGoodFriend
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States2197 Posts
October 17 2016 18:23 GMT
#2302
Rough start but then again thats basically been true every game
anonymous is the most famous author that anyone can be
Gamerhcp
Profile Joined May 2015
734 Posts
October 17 2016 18:42 GMT
#2303
Stop feeding!
Hello
RolleMcKnolle
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany1054 Posts
October 17 2016 18:58 GMT
#2304
1. They should stop losing every laning stage. They haven't gone even ina single laning stage yet ....
2. That sk and omni were played horribly... jsut stay with defensive supports. At least for bulba. His oracle was pretty good for the most part.
Anamorph
Profile Joined September 2015
236 Posts
October 17 2016 19:09 GMT
#2305
On October 18 2016 03:58 RolleMcKnolle wrote:
1. They should stop losing every laning stage. They haven't gone even ina single laning stage yet ....
2. That sk and omni were played horribly... jsut stay with defensive supports. At least for bulba. His oracle was pretty good for the most part.


Bulba on oracle is awful. Nothing else.
I have not seen any good performance from bulba yet and I am not comparing bulba to jerax.
Kometijanac
Profile Joined March 2013
Serbia98 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-10-17 19:57:08
October 17 2016 19:56 GMT
#2306
If you think that Liquid's performance is because only Bulba is playing bad, then you are wrong. I just don't understand how is it possible that this Liquid is so different from Liquid before TI6. They play like they don't communicate with each other.
"Back then teams that won were credited, now it's called throw. I think it's sad." - Kuroky
RolleMcKnolle
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany1054 Posts
October 17 2016 20:01 GMT
#2307
I honestly think you arey wrong there. This game his Oracle was pretty good again. Nothing amazing, but good saves, sometimes bad positioning, but also good purges.

Well they started training together a week ago. So the synergy is not there yet. But I think there is progress.
hunter_x
Profile Joined June 2014
Germany2762 Posts
October 17 2016 20:11 GMT
#2308
If they can fix their bad laning stage, things will go a lot smoother. But im still confident, lets hope they win game 3.
danielbe
Profile Joined December 2010
Colombia24 Posts
October 17 2016 21:05 GMT
#2309
That was brutal. Miracle having no impact on a game is so hard to watch. He's just not used to not having Fly's and Cr1t's awesome support plays. Kuroky is fine, but his playstyle is way different from the other two. And Bulba is... well, Bulba.
LemOn
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
United Kingdom8629 Posts
October 17 2016 21:08 GMT
#2310
Oh well, the boys need a lot of time with these experimental drafts, I do think it's the right path though for sure, last time the team got stuck because of their patented albeit somewhat one dimensional 3 strenght core lineups that got figured out.
Instead they are taking the Wings route with what I assume is Bulba's added ideas that need to settle with them.

Same goes for communication - Bulba's disruptions were just unfortunate working against them (that disrupt on bat that could've been zapped by matumba, ulti on jugg who was almost dying but gets disrupted)


I really like that they are playing everything they can, if they keep up the hard work it's road to TOP3 world again
Much is the father figure that I miss in my life. Go Daddy! DoC.LemOn, LemOn[5thF]
LemOn
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
United Kingdom8629 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-10-17 21:12:17
October 17 2016 21:11 GMT
#2311
On October 18 2016 06:05 danielbe wrote:
That was brutal. Miracle having no impact on a game is so hard to watch. He's just not used to not having Fly's and Cr1t's awesome support plays. Kuroky is fine, but his playstyle is way different from the other two. And Bulba is... well, Bulba.

Eh Kuroky is a better player than Fly, but you're right that they need to get used to each other.


Miracle is still very inexperienced afterall, you can't expect him to adapt to a different playstye overnight especially with the huge array of strategies they are using (he was 2x on Rubocl only pretty much, otherwise different hero every game :D)
Much is the father figure that I miss in my life. Go Daddy! DoC.LemOn, LemOn[5thF]
NInoff
Profile Joined August 2011
Bulgaria1105 Posts
October 17 2016 21:11 GMT
#2312
I like the 2:1 loss. This means two more Bo3 tomorrow
hunter_x
Profile Joined June 2014
Germany2762 Posts
October 17 2016 21:13 GMT
#2313
Even wings couldnt make the pudge work, and you pick it in game 3 of a bo3?? Kuro wtf. Pudge was so fucking useless all game. Well that hurt to watch, at least we are not out yet. Hope we can make a lb run. Missing the summit would suck...
Anamorph
Profile Joined September 2015
236 Posts
October 17 2016 22:18 GMT
#2314
On October 18 2016 06:13 hunter_x wrote:
Even wings couldnt make the pudge work, and you pick it in game 3 of a bo3?? Kuro wtf. Pudge was so fucking useless all game. Well that hurt to watch, at least we are not out yet. Hope we can make a lb run. Missing the summit would suck...


common - there was no synergy at all.

tide void - okay, but slark and pudge into it? rly?
miracle performed poorly on void. he is so hyper aggressive and plays like it is a pub game without someone backing em up.

NInoff
Profile Joined August 2011
Bulgaria1105 Posts
October 18 2016 05:46 GMT
#2315
On October 18 2016 07:18 Anamorph wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 18 2016 06:13 hunter_x wrote:
Even wings couldnt make the pudge work, and you pick it in game 3 of a bo3?? Kuro wtf. Pudge was so fucking useless all game. Well that hurt to watch, at least we are not out yet. Hope we can make a lb run. Missing the summit would suck...


common - there was no synergy at all.

tide void - okay, but slark and pudge into it? rly?
miracle performed poorly on void. he is so hyper aggressive and plays like it is a pub game without someone backing em up.



On top of that he had some really bad luck too - at least 3 chronos without vision catching only the Chrono target and 1 or two enemy heroes were literally on the edge on being in it, but instead target lives, and miracle dies.
ShiaoPi
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
TAIWAN NUMBAH WAN5956 Posts
October 18 2016 06:06 GMT
#2316
here is hoping that it did not cost us a potential invite to Boston
LiquidDota Staff@TW_ShiaoPi
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Pontual
Profile Joined October 2016
Brazil3038 Posts
October 18 2016 11:23 GMT
#2317
On October 18 2016 15:06 ShiaoPi wrote:
here is hoping that it did not cost us a potential invite to Boston

Probably Valve gives emphasis on Lans instead of qualifiers, tho Ad Finem should be an ez 2:0 given a team direct-invite-worthy
NInoff
Profile Joined August 2011
Bulgaria1105 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-10-18 11:53:58
October 18 2016 11:50 GMT
#2318
On October 18 2016 20:23 Pontual wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 18 2016 15:06 ShiaoPi wrote:
here is hoping that it did not cost us a potential invite to Boston

Probably Valve gives emphasis on Lans instead of qualifiers, tho Ad Finem should be an ez 2:0 given a team direct-invite-worthy


AD Finem is actually pretty good team. Maedara is a world class carry, especially on some melee carries, if this guy is allowed to farm pre 15 mins, he just wins the game by himself. They probably need some more experience during drafts, and strategies and positioning when behind, but they are very close of becoming top tier team.

Back on our boys - i really think that last night games were another round of experiments. Our boys really need to play together as much as possible before the major, and going through the loser bracket for this qualifiers is a good way to do that.

Plus we have to prove that we are better than VP as they kicked our arses pretty hard in the first match of the new roster last week during Dream League.
Pontual
Profile Joined October 2016
Brazil3038 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-10-18 12:16:10
October 18 2016 12:13 GMT
#2319
I didn't watch many of their games, but it feels to me that any chinese tier 1 would beat them.

Back on our boys - i really think that last night games were another round of experiments. Our boys really need to play together as much as possible before the major, and going through the loser bracket for this qualifiers is a good way to do that.
Agreed, they're experimenting, as the best team they played against so far was VP and they lost, but they were playing together for only 3~4 days before that, in a not important series, so is still a bit uncertain if Liquid will be that far behind in Boston qualis.
But imo Liquid just need to do exactly what they're doing: playing everything there is to play.
Deleted User 97295
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
1137 Posts
October 18 2016 13:52 GMT
#2320
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