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Anyone heroes this patch you think are underutilized and not given enough pro play time atm?
Predictions for TI5 top 5...Chinese dominance this year again?
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RiceSeoul
United States3 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + Anyone heroes this patch you think are underutilized and not given enough pro play time atm? Predictions for TI5 top 5...Chinese dominance this year again? | ||
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Birdie
New Zealand4438 Posts
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PagePincher
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On April 12 2015 01:29 Namarot wrote: I see what you mean. I guess not even just marketing from Valve/Nexon by itself would help the situation and there would have to be more than just MMR and cosmetic item drops as "progression". Even if those happened, it would take a miracle to get people away from LoL. Unfortunate. I wonder if Valve gonna get involve in this and did what they did like CS in Korea. Made it free and "progressive" gain. I think dota2 always depend on the community such as website, exposure to games replay in your language and constant hype. Such a shame, since dota2 fit the LAN cafe environment more than LoL. On April 12 2015 03:30 LemOn wrote: Oh wow that's really poor - what happened there? Do you think there is something Valve could have done differently to popularize Dota in Korea in the past? If only they released the game earlier than LoL, it could have boomed. It was perfect timing. SC2 wasn't well received and Broodwar was basically killed by Blizzard. Imo, it would be great if they do consistent small korean tournaments to attract new players first. Most of overseas tournament are english speaking which doesn't appeal to most koreans. Are there korean community dota2 website? Like gosugamers or TLdota? How big is it? | ||
Firebolt145
Lalalaland34504 Posts
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CodeskyE
United States777 Posts
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Heen
Korea (South)2178 Posts
On April 12 2015 06:00 recomence wrote: How do you even play undying? Some sort of aggressive offlane like maybe with skywrath seems to be ok. Do you want to focus on getting decay down to a 4 sec cd or getting that tombstone hp higher or is maxing soul rip the choice? Do you even choose to skip the ultimate at 6? I'm not even sure what items to go on him. Phase boots with an oov? Tranq & soul ring? Atos, mek, blademail? This hero seems so in-versatile in the draft and yet his skill build and item build are so game dependent. Any thoughts on the hero would be nice. I don't really enjoy playing Undying but a lot of Undying's strengths lie in laning and tombstone abuse. You don't have to get tombstone maxed by lvl 7 sharp but if you aren't maxing it relatively early, I don't see much point to picking the hero. I personally prefer going 1-1-4-1 or 2-1-4-0 at lvl 7. Your role should be acting as an anchor for your team to take good engagements. Phase boots+OoV implies that you're gonna hit people and be on the outskirts of your team's formation. I think tranqs are much better because there aren't many ways to get armor on him other than mek/blademail which are situational items on this hero. If you have great start, Arcane's might pay off better though. You're job isn't to do damage, it's to be a semi frontline for your team that's annoying enough to draw aggro but tanky enough to make their job hard. Mek Blademail Atos Pipe Crimson Guard Bloodstone Urn Eul's Shiva's guard are all good choices because it suits your needs for being useful and more importantly have good buildup so that you don't fall off so quickly. You want to force your opponents to take fights where it's hard to commit too much because of Undying. This usually includes objectives such as rosh or tower. I feel the best use of Undying is to force the opponents to take bad trades or risk getting fucked over by running into Undying's full arsenal. One example might be having a batrider on your team where you can lasso someone and you run in with ult and put a tombstone down so that you either get a free kill or they have to run into uncomfortable territory. Venge is really nice too because you can offensive swap and set up a tombstone so it's almost like fighting inside your tower. It's hard to make good use of Undying without these types of catch where you forcefully change their position because if you just put a tombstone down before you take action to make them commit (initiation), they can move out of Tombstone range and fight in a more comfortable spot. | ||
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Heen
Korea (South)2178 Posts
On April 12 2015 07:03 DeMoN. wrote: Hi Heen, do you miss me? Come back to Korea for TI6! | ||
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recomence
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ultra_v1olence
Russian Federation8 Posts
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goody153
44280 Posts
I've been playing alot of DP but it's been pretty much not so effective so i got to ask after phase euls when do you buy drums/shivas/heart/etc other items over the other ? also when should i pick DP ? | ||
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Heen
Korea (South)2178 Posts
On April 12 2015 07:33 RiceSeoul wrote: Sad to see the TI4 MvP line-up part ways but I hope both teams can do well! + Show Spoiler + Anyone heroes this patch you think are underutilized and not given enough pro play time atm? Predictions for TI5 top 5...Chinese dominance this year again? Tree is pretty good because of rubberband mechanics and his anti-BKB ult. Omniknight since high ground is all the craze these days. I haven't tried enough but I think Chaos Knight can be potentially really good even without wisp. I don't think the Chinese will be that dominant. Neither have they been for a long time. I think top 5 TI5 will be a 2/3 split either way between the west and east. | ||
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Heen
Korea (South)2178 Posts
On April 12 2015 11:05 Birdie wrote: What is the best way for a position 5 support to get gold? Particularly if you die a lot (squishy supports being prime early game targets) it seems to be difficult when playing in a 5stack to get any farm (in pubs it's easier because people farm poorly). At best by the end of the game I might have brown boots, an urn, and wards/tp/smoke/dust throughout the game. It really depends on which hero you're playing but generally if you want to stay relevant, you have to keep an eye out for free lanes that the cores can't go to. For example, when your mid SF is clearly jungle stacks, you want to be leeching mid. Tranq + soul ring combo generally provides you with the sustain to mimic flash farm. You should also plan your item builds smartly. By that I mean you need item progression that is appropriate for your rate of income. You don't want to queue blink dagger too early in the game because it's the most expensive purchase you can make as a support. Always queue next items so you lose less gold on death by using up your unreliable gold. If you're building mek for example, and you happen to have 600 gold, hold on to it and see if you can build up to 900 gold then buy the recipe first. In a winning game, you should buy a gem if you have your core items so that you don't over purchase consumables. It also puts a lot of pressure on the enemy supports so you'll widen the gap between yourself and them. 80% of being a good 5 is being at the right place at the right time though. There are limits to how much farm a 5 can get but you shouldn't be struggling with brown boots and crap items post-mid game, especially in pubs. Piggy back off your cores. Help them secure objectives. You get richer just by surviving fights. As weird as it might sound, getting a respectable level of farm on a 5 is less about farming and more about being efficient with your gold and survival instincts. | ||
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Heen
Korea (South)2178 Posts
On April 13 2015 00:39 Firebolt145 wrote: Thanks Heen for the amazing ama! np, glad you're enjoying it! On April 13 2015 00:47 CodeskyE wrote: heen, how to be sexy like you? Play more Rhasta. | ||
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Sizmo
South Africa1 Post
On April 13 2015 18:48 Heen wrote: Tree is pretty good because of rubberband mechanics and his anti-BKB ult. Omniknight since high ground is all the craze these days. I haven't tried enough but I think Chaos Knight can be potentially really good even without wisp. I don't think the Chinese will be that dominant. Neither have they been for a long time. I think top 5 TI5 will be a 2/3 split either way between the west and east. hi. would you suggest a support or offlane omni? also any heroes you think are underrated on the offlane either as a solo or apart of a dual lane? thanks  . | ||
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Heen
Korea (South)2178 Posts
On April 13 2015 02:58 ultra_v1olence wrote: How did you feel when at TI4 you lost to Liquid after a win over Virtus.Pro and thus stopped one step from the actual groupstage? What did you do for all these days? Just watched TI as a bunch of common spectators? We were pretty heart broken for a day or two since we threw hard on the 1st game. Mostly we used the practice lounge to grind MMR. We'd watch the games as well but keeping busy was the easiest way to wash away the sadness of broken dreams! You tend to get hungry for more if good things happen to you in life. When we first secured our trip to Seattle, we were super happy and honored to have made it to TI. But when we didn't make it through the Wildcard, it was still just as hard to accept that we failed our mission  | ||
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goody153
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JD.
Australia250 Posts
On April 13 2015 22:29 goody153 wrote: Your question was stupidly vague (in the sense of being related to Heen), not surprising - go ask it in SQSA.Heen senpai ignored me | ||
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zelphin
47 Posts
On April 13 2015 22:35 JD. wrote: Your question was stupidly vague (in the sense of being related to Heen), not surprising - go ask it in SQSA. no, heen is just replying in order. also many of the questions have been regarding general strategy too. | ||
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ahswtini
Northern Ireland22212 Posts
On April 13 2015 22:35 JD. wrote: Your question was stupidly vague (in the sense of being related to Heen), not surprising - go ask it in SQSA. no it wasnt | ||
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JD.
Australia250 Posts
Oh come on, I'm all for Heen answering it with his opinion but "what to buy after phase/euls?" And "when to pick DP?" can't go in Simple Questions, Simple Answers? | ||
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