EPTbtw i tried the bloodstone suggestion and it was pretty good .. i really didn't have sustain problems i almost never went home all game but i have yet where i didn't snowball
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goody153
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btw i tried the bloodstone suggestion and it was pretty good .. i really didn't have sustain problems i almost never went home all game but i have yet where i didn't snowball | ||
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Whiplash
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Heen
Korea (South)2178 Posts
On April 14 2015 13:25 Ack1027 wrote: I'll be in korea next month! For how long? We're going to Malaysia for MPGL in early May I think. | ||
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Heen
Korea (South)2178 Posts
On April 14 2015 17:03 Waxangel wrote: What environmental factors do you think allowed KHAOS to be such a success in its time over similar games/clones (notably AllStars)? Similarly, what factors allowed LoL to come out of nowhere (somewhat) as a word-of-mouth game in Korea in an environment where similar, competing games existed? Well, first of all DotA not legible for most Korean users was a big problem. If you need a friend to learn how to play the game, people just give up. An argument made back in the day was that DotA was less newb friendly with mechanics like denying being in the game whereas Chaos had invulenerable/insta teleporting couriers but I don't really believe that. Koreans pride themselves on discipline and achieving new limits of skill cap, I doubt that DotA being too hard of a game was the reason. I don't know when LoL became a huge success. It seemed to explode in popularity somewhere during 2011. I remember playing a few games of it during 2009-2010 because of some friends who vouched for it but it was still an uknown game in Korea. Koreans had to play in US servers. The game itself was awful back then. There were like ~30 champions. Maybe it's because LoL shared more similarities with Chaos than DotA. I'm too inexperience with Chaos to jump to conclusions though. Art also has something to do with it? For example, I don't think HoN could ever have made it big in Korea because of the art. League has its unique fairy tale flavor and appealed to the inner pedo of Koreans. | ||
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Heen
Korea (South)2178 Posts
On April 14 2015 21:51 Howie_Dewitt wrote: Ty A follow up question: what support duos are very strong with gank potential all around the map, like SWM/SK? Ogre Sky: tanky frontline support backed by pure offensive support Shadow Demon Lina: damage AA Rubick: cold feet + lift is nice but more importantly Rubick does 0 damage but AA provides all the damage early game. Earthshaker Lion: crown control + single target control. They can both bypass BKBs because of their insta-stun nature and have good off-map presence. I prefer support duos that share different strengths/weaknesses so that they compliment each other. Stun+Damage is better than Stun+Stun or Damage+Damage. | ||
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Heen
Korea (South)2178 Posts
On April 15 2015 02:34 goody153 wrote: Heen do you play on PW(chinese) servers? btw i tried the bloodstone suggestion and it was pretty good .. i really didn't have sustain problems i almost never went home all game but i have yet where i didn't snowball Sometimes. I rarely play ranked MM so... rarely for me. But a lot of my teammates play on Chinese servers by default. The games are higher quality on China than any other server for sure. | ||
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Heen
Korea (South)2178 Posts
On April 15 2015 06:35 Whiplash wrote: Hey Heen you were always one of my fav players when I was in Korea, I hope you find success with your new lineup and I'll come back and visit Korea one day <3 DotA seems so hard sometimes. Playing as a team... it's so cliche but people don't understand the effort it takes to truly get to that stage. | ||
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Tricks
United States252 Posts
Can I get your in game autograph? ^_^ | ||
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DucK-
Singapore11447 Posts
What is your opinion of QO and MentalProtector in terms of their style? QO seem to play a lot of carry mid like rtz. Assuming no ego or personal issues, who is in your dream all star Korean line up? What is march's best role? | ||
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macmann
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What were some of the things that separated you guys from the likes of Zephyr, Rave, and Pokerface? What did you guys have that your competition lacked? Because you guys did seem to be on a level of your own during that time. | ||
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PagePincher
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On April 15 2015 09:47 Heen wrote: Well, first of all DotA not legible for most Korean users was a big problem. If you need a friend to learn how to play the game, people just give up. An argument made back in the day was that DotA was less newb friendly with mechanics like denying being in the game whereas Chaos had invulenerable/insta teleporting couriers but I don't really believe that. Koreans pride themselves on discipline and achieving new limits of skill cap, I doubt that DotA being too hard of a game was the reason. I don't know when LoL became a huge success. It seemed to explode in popularity somewhere during 2011. I remember playing a few games of it during 2009-2010 because of some friends who vouched for it but it was still an uknown game in Korea. Koreans had to play in US servers. The game itself was awful back then. There were like ~30 champions. Maybe it's because LoL shared more similarities with Chaos than DotA. I'm too inexperience with Chaos to jump to conclusions though. Art also has something to do with it? For example, I don't think HoN could ever have made it big in Korea because of the art. League has its unique fairy tale flavor and appealed to the inner pedo of Koreans. Damn, it could have been dota2 that exploded but the closed beta test really hurt them i guess. LoL has grown too big now to get topple over. I am still hoping for dota2 to get more popular in korea but i won't be anytime soon. I heard Japanese has a thing for LoL too. Well i guess dota2 won't get popular because of their intimidating arts. | ||
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Kraznaya
United States3711 Posts
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VelJa
France1109 Posts
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Heen
Korea (South)2178 Posts
On April 15 2015 14:56 Tricks wrote: Yo Heen Can I get your in game autograph? ^_^ I'd have to find them first :p We got like a thousand cards each and we were supposed to give them out TI but we ended coming back home with 500+ left | ||
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Heen
Korea (South)2178 Posts
On April 15 2015 17:54 DucK- wrote: Why the name heen? What is your opinion of QO and MentalProtector in terms of their style? QO seem to play a lot of carry mid like rtz. Assuming no ego or personal issues, who is in your dream all star Korean line up? What is march's best role? I have pale skin so when I was a kid, my nickname was Heendoong (흰둥). It's a common name for white colored dogs. I used the same alias for gaming when I was a kid but later on people started abbreviating for me. I'm not sure if it's QO's conscious choice to play carry oriented mids or if it was the patch. Probably a bit of both. QO is super aggressive. He believes in the psychological factor of actively making your opponents feel pressured. He doesn't believe in consequences because what might be or might not be is hypothetical during the game. You go the fuck in and find out according to him, lol. He'll never flame a teammate for being too aggressive. Only for being a pussy. MP is more calculating. He'll take risks but not nearly as much as QO. He's said himself that his role until joining our team was to be the reactionary DPS. So he's going to wait and see while his team does the dirty work and strikes at the perfect moment. QO was the opposite. He goes in and creates chaos and confusion then the rest of the team joins in and helps clean up. Ego and personal issues aside, my dream all star Korean lineup would consist most of former MVP Phoenix players. Something like, 1 - QO 2 - MP 3 - Forev 4 and 5 - March and myself but people are people and we wouldn't have split up if it could've been worked out. March's best role is probably carry but he has his own ideas about how the role needs to be played. I don't really know. He's all over the place. He's played every single role in the past year. | ||
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Heen
Korea (South)2178 Posts
On April 15 2015 18:05 macmann wrote: Was it season 3 that you guys (MVP.Phoenix) went undefeated in KDL? What were some of the things that separated you guys from the likes of Zephyr, Rave, and Pokerface? What did you guys have that your competition lacked? Because you guys did seem to be on a level of your own during that time. Yes, season 3, which was right after TI4. I feel like at the time we simply summarized the TI4 meta the best among the KDL teams. Most teams knew what the meta heroes were but didn't abuse them fully. We recognized that gold swings (or comebacks) rarely happen in that patch, picked strong enough lanes that usually included a hero that hits a peak around the 10 min mark (blink brew, mek razor, blink batrider etc.) and constant 5 man off of that. A lot of our games ended pre 20 minutes because our opponents didn't have the tools to deal with our death ball. It was too early, too fast for split push to be an answer. We got minimal farm to execute the style that we wanted and took initiative earlier than our opponents anticipated. Going 12-0 was unexpected though. Even when we had a 6-0 start, we figured we're going to get studied and lose soon. Also there was the fact that we just came back from TI4. We didn't make it through the Wildcards but every LAN experience is precious in boosting a team's confidence. | ||
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Heen
Korea (South)2178 Posts
On April 15 2015 19:00 Kraznaya wrote: Are you planning on going to TI if your team doesnt qualify? I doubt it unless I'm needed/invited for some other purpose than playing. | ||
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ahswtini
Northern Ireland22208 Posts
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Laserist
Turkey4269 Posts
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DucK-
Singapore11447 Posts
On April 16 2015 19:31 Heen wrote: I have pale skin so when I was a kid, my nickname was Heendoong (흰둥). It's a common name for white colored dogs. I used the same alias for gaming when I was a kid but later on people started abbreviating for me. I'm not sure if it's QO's conscious choice to play carry oriented mids or if it was the patch. Probably a bit of both. QO is super aggressive. He believes in the psychological factor of actively making your opponents feel pressured. He doesn't believe in consequences because what might be or might not be is hypothetical during the game. You go the fuck in and find out according to him, lol. He'll never flame a teammate for being too aggressive. Only for being a pussy. MP is more calculating. He'll take risks but not nearly as much as QO. He's said himself that his role until joining our team was to be the reactionary DPS. So he's going to wait and see while his team does the dirty work and strikes at the perfect moment. QO was the opposite. He goes in and creates chaos and confusion then the rest of the team joins in and helps clean up. Ego and personal issues aside, my dream all star Korean lineup would consist most of former MVP Phoenix players. Something like, 1 - QO 2 - MP 3 - Forev 4 and 5 - March and myself but people are people and we wouldn't have split up if it could've been worked out. March's best role is probably carry but he has his own ideas about how the role needs to be played. I don't really know. He's all over the place. He's played every single role in the past year. Dang QO sounds like a player I really like to have in my team :D | ||
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