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On May 24 2015 00:43 Heen wrote:Show nested quote +On May 22 2015 08:56 AznJDragon wrote: Hello Heen,
I read EternaLEnVy's blog and he talked about having Nexon as host for a major and how by doing so it could potential promote DotA2 in Korea. Say Nexon was a host for one of the majors do you think more Koreans could potentially get interested in DotA2 and as a result help increase the popularity of the game in the country? I think it's clear now that throwing money at the game won't directly help the game's popularity. A lot of casual players who are already playing DotA don't pay attention to tournaments. Hosting a major won't interest anyone who wasn't already following the competitive scene anyway.
I was thinking more along the lines of Nexon hosts a major and advertise it to people in Korea not just causal players to get people interested in the game. Valve's approach for TI1 was to host it in Europe in Gamescom to advertise it to many people. I think the way EnVy's and I view was more of Nexon hosts a major to try and advertise it to more Koreans. Like Koreans walk around and hopefully check it out. I mean if a big event is in your home country and you have a chance to check it out then I mean why not? The way I see it is if Nexon runs a successful enough major in South Korea that gets enough hype around worldwide and hype in Korea then maybe it could get more Koreans interested in DotA2. But I understand what you're coming from considering how you witness the growth of DotA2 in Korea directly even with the KDL and NSL.
On May 24 2015 01:40 Heen wrote:Show nested quote +On May 22 2015 15:40 evilfatsh1t wrote: sup heen i have a question which im curious to hear your thoughts on any past or present players in the korean scene you think didnt/havent lived up to their full potential? people who had potential but didnt make the effort or people who just werent presented a chance to play at bigger teams/stages
sup sup Looking back at the DotA 1 days, there were lots of players who had potential as competitive players but we were all playing for pennies back then so they slowly ended up quitting and moving on. There are players in Korea who have potential, but they don't have the balls to go competitive because that would mean expectations would follow and they're going to have to accept the fact that they're going to face failure (at least in the beginning) and realize that a fully functional team is not nearly as easy as it looks. Typical twitch chat mentality in every region. I won't name any individuals who could have but didn't break out into the scene because I think going competitive on a skill level isn't so hard. It's all about being mature enough and being self-aware.
I think some of the potential DotA1 Korean pro players went off to League since by that time players had a higher chance to be a pro player and get payed in League like Faker.
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ilovecats
United States265 Posts
Dear Heeeeeneeeeeeeeeeeen,
I'm waking up from a long nap just to send you this warm greeting from a rainy town in Texas. Even though I suspect most "boys" on this forum these days don't really have a clue who I am (or was), those who do and were part of our story should unanimously agree that I'm your #1 fan in the world, regardless if proven by degrees of sincerity, measured in number of repeating e's when screaming your name, or considered from the perspective of verifiable TL DotA history.
The other day out of pure boredom and stress from work, I treated myself with some twitch.tv entertainment after a long absence from anything related to gaming. When I saw the familiar name Heen show up on screen, my eyes lit up and my mouth watered. I was fully expecting to see some steaming hot mid SF action, but instead you played some ward ***** Rhasta in a badly losing game that was almost too cruel to watch. A subsequent Google search led me to this thread. I have to admit that I don't know much about your competitive DotA 2 career, though I do know there must be a good reason you're playing support on your competitive team. But boy don't we all miss the good old days of bnet pubs where you taught us noobs how the game worked. Then came the TL IH era where you, under the unforgiving handicap of latency generated by distance and yesterday's technology, had to miraculously and often single-handily carry your side of the team against a fiercely determined Testie. How can we forget your hax Drow Ranger who always had more gold than most of us could understand, or the the deadly Viper, the lightening fast Razor, the team wiping OD... By the way, you probably don't even remember this, once you invited me to play on a Korean server to witness your "host pudge" where you landed hooks after hooks in a much faster paced game than what I was used to, and it was so overwhelming that I had to GG quit after just a couple of games citing "lag" reasons. Hehe, all these must have been something close to a decade ago. How time really flies!
You said you're pretty "washed up" after playing DotA for so long. Well, eight years ago we were all enthusiastically watching the replays of Merlini and SK.Loda. Imagine if you were to tell me that one of them would come play with us, I probably would (pretend to) have died of the then undiscovered disease of "Kreygasm". Now when I take a look at the guys today, one has become a caster and the other, while fairly accomplished with a TI title and all, still seems to get beaten up on a regular basis by the youngsters. People have to eventually grow up,grow stale and grow old. What you probably don't realize is how lucky you're to be in the 0.01% of this game, even if it's "just a game", for life has always taught me that it's really difficult to be the elite of anything in this competitive world.
You said you consider yourself to be very knowledgeable of the game, and that I do not doubt the slightest. What you didn't say, of course, is that you're such a nice and humble person with excellent manners and a truly genuine attitude that is absolutely a gem in this infamous community filled with ego, rudeness, immaturity and arrogance. I'm pretty sure everyone around you shares my view, and just to set the records straight here, for all the childish and exaggerated fanboy chants I had ever thrown at you in my younger years, my deep respect for your skills and your personally as well as my appreciation for all your helpful tips and advice were 100% sincere and honest.
I read that you were the pioneer of professional Korean DotA, and certainly that doesn't surprise me the least, though it surely sounds like a title that would put some weight on your shoulder, which in turn may inevitably lead to setbacks and frustrations at times. But I believe you can handle them and in the end come up with the right decisions at the right times. I don't know how life has been for you, or whether you have some other plans for yourself in the future. But I do want you to know that no matter what happens, an old friend here wholeheartedly wishes you the best in each and everything you do.
May this post bring back some of the fond memories and give you a smile on your face plus some warm feelings in your heart. With that I shall go back to my nap.
Sincerey yours, "cats"
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Northern Ireland22208 Posts
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Nice to see you going to TI5 Heen. How excited are you and what do you think your chances are?
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Baltimore, USA22256 Posts
Goooooooooooo Heeeeeeeeeeeeen!!
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Oh cats, you forgot his 42-0 THD.
Heen's currently being punished with his Pugna at 0-6-3 in 22 mins, but JerAx's max poison SD build surprised Phoenix and MP came back from very low Bloodstone charges to reach 17 now. Blink Leshrac ftw !
ZOMG GO HOT6 !
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Northern Ireland22208 Posts
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grats heen! how does it feel to beat phoenix hahahahah
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*heaps praise onto the heroes of the hour*
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I'm so happy for you man!
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Lalalaland34495 Posts
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opterown
Australia54784 Posts
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How do you communicate with JerAx as a team? I know you're fluent in English, does he speak English and you translate for him, does he do his own thing, does he speak in Finnish and hope you get the general idea of what he means?
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1. Woo, congrats!
2. Hey it's ilovecats! rip sc2.org
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Osaka27154 Posts
1) Holy shit Heen good job man!
2) Holy shit cats wtf man!
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congrats Heen! Have fun in Seattle :D
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