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les
143 Posts
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Heen
Korea (South)2178 Posts
On April 12 2015 00:29 NB wrote: Thanks for doing this. I have couple of questions: 1/ How was the addition of jeraxai materialized? And how do you value your team right now compare to before his arrival? 2/ What is your team primary way to practice? If you scrim, which teams are your go to scrim partners aside from MVP.P? 3/ If given a chance, would you go to another country(China/Malaysia/Sweden/US etc..) to play for a foreign team? 1. At first we had some different ideas about the game but we've made a lot of progress aligning our vision of DotA. I think we're blending nicely because Jerax has a very active, aggressive play style whereas I'm more passive and focus on stability. Basically we balance each other out as a support duo so that we're aggressive enough without taking too many risks. 2. We try to scrim as many teams as possible in order to encounter as many strats. In the long term, it's not healthy to scrim a handful of teams because you start taking certain things for granted even though you shouldn't. I believe we've scrimmed vs most of the known teams in the SEA region. We enjoy playing vs the Chinese occasionally because they have a completely different style of drafting/playing. I think it's important to actively discuss what you learned after a game so that everyone gets on the same page about how they think about the game. Execution errors are not as important as discussing the big ideas so people aren't confused about what purpose they serve in the game. Like I mentioned earlier, it's impractical to have discussions during a game. So talking about what went well and poorly after every game prevents the need for discussions in future games. 3. I would rather not leave Korea but if I had to choose I would probably go with Europe or America simply because I've seen enough of Asia  | ||
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Froadac
United States6733 Posts
On April 11 2015 17:59 Heen wrote: I prefer non-Korean food when I'm abroad but sure In that case some Roscoe's Chicken and Waffles? XD On a more serious note, are there any especially bad lanes that you can recall drafting/having drafted against you? (the worse the better) | ||
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Heen
Korea (South)2178 Posts
On April 12 2015 00:46 drsnuggles wrote: Pretty cool to see do this AMA, I'm one of your few stream viewers ^^ Where's the team house located? Any chance of making a video like teamliquid used to do for their teamhouse? Always nice to see how's it like for progamers. We're located in an apartment in Incheon, 1 hour drive from Seoul. I don't think we'll do a video any time soon but it's nothing special to be honest. It's like a permanent LAN party where we scrim for a few hours every day and how to spend the rest is up to you. It's like a regular house minus the personal space. | ||
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Heen
Korea (South)2178 Posts
On April 12 2015 00:56 opterown wrote: So how is Dota performing in Korea? In terms of the pub scene/raw number of players/numbers of competitive-worthy players? Too few I'm afraid. https://rjackson.me/tools/mmstats/ shows how unpopulated the Korean server is. Korean games can be really clowny because 6k players can get matched with 2k calibre players. There are some people who have potential to play competitively but I don't think there are enough tournaments and incentive to bother doing it. For it to be worth it for people to commit fully, they have to look to foreign tournaments which is a big step from playing for fun. | ||
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Heen
Korea (South)2178 Posts
On April 12 2015 01:07 AznJDragon wrote: Hello Heen! Thank you for doing this! However, I was wondering why you did not do this on reddit since you could have potentially gotten the team and yourself more exposure. How has JerAx help strengthen the team? Providing new insight on the game? More Western type style of playing? Where is Dubu now? I think he has potential the same way with Reisen to be really good on support. Do you see any of the other Korean eSports organizations (eg: CJ Entus, Samsung, SK Telecom, Jin Air, KT Rolster, NaJin) picking up a DotA2 team any time soon? Thank you again and good luck to MVPHot6ix hope you guys get invited to TI5 Qualifiers I don't think I can keep up with reddit's response rate since I answer these questions in between games and free time. Jerax had a noticeably European mindset when he first came here. I'm in the process of brainwashing him into the Korean ways of 5 manning because we feel like it. Jokes aside though, he offers a lot of different perspectives about the game. He values efficiency and risk/reward a lot. In a way, it's nice because SEA/Korea has a simpler way of looking at DotA imo. DuBu is grinding games as he is teamless but lives in our team house. He gets some friendly flame amongst us but he's a super tryharder so maybe he'll blossom one day! Big Korean organizations probably won't jump in unless the DotA scene gets bigger in Korea and we make waves in the international scene. It doesn't work the other way around sadly. | ||
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LemOn
United Kingdom8629 Posts
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Heen
Korea (South)2178 Posts
On April 12 2015 01:11 zelphin wrote: Hello, would like to ask 2 questions 1) what do you think of ta mid with regards to the current meta? 2) any particular reasons why most of the troll we see nowadays are playing position 1, rather than mid lane which was the most common spot for him during his previous surge of popularity (back before the whirling axe damage nerf) TA is underrated by most teams imo. Her refraction+blink buff was pretty big and on a hero-to-hero level, she's good on paper vs a lot of the popular heroes in circulation today. She's strong enough that if a player is confident enough in the hero, she can overcome a lot of seemingly bad matchups. She's heavily reliant on aegis though. So you have to draft a lineup that gives her a good shot at getting timely roshans. Troll doesn't benefit that much from levels as he does gold. Troll hitting lvl 6 at mid doesn't set off alarms. Side shop is really convenient for him since most of his early purchases can be made there. He's a strong laner but there a lot of things about mid that aren't as advantageous for him such as - not having enough chasing room - him being pretty squishy early on - not the best wave-clear or anti-wave clear Also it's better for a carry to go into the jungle so that someone else can take the free lane since offlaners aren't as threatening. If troll is mid and he tries to share the lane efficiency by going into the jungle, supports can't just take his place vs heroes like sniper or lina. People also figured out that he's a lot stronger as the #1 farm priority carry than people gave him credit for. | ||
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ahswtini
Northern Ireland22212 Posts
On April 12 2015 03:30 LemOn wrote: Oh wow that's really poor - what happened there? Do you think there is something Valve could have done differently to popularize Dota in Korea in the past? honestly it was just that riot got there first and did their marketing REALLY well. also as heen put it, korean ppl like the account progression idea (i mean maplestory the king of grindy mmos is korean) | ||
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Heen
Korea (South)2178 Posts
On April 12 2015 01:19 Wala.Revolution wrote: How was your experience in the Korean military? It was satisfying enough. People worry that you might have to spend time with a bad bunch if you're unlucky. I was fortunate enough to be stationed with reasonable, likeable people for the most part. It sucked that I barely played any DotA for 2 years so I felt mega washed up when I was discharged but mostly good memories compared to bad ones. You have to deal with a lot of irrational bullshit sometimes but that can be a virtue, right? You sort of develop a humbled view of life. Appreciation for the little things! I remember thinking I would pay $1000 just to sit on a sofa for an hour during bootcamp. | ||
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Heen
Korea (South)2178 Posts
On April 12 2015 03:10 les wrote: Do you have a map for the neutral creep camps, indicating wards to block them, when to pull (into which direction etc.? Some of my teammates have screenshots but I sort of memorize them although I still have a lot of holes in my warding knowledge. I don't think you should learn how to pull based on time. You should do it based on visual information of your creeps on the minimap. It's more reliable since when you pull can change depending on what camps you get and there can be random movements like an offlaner trying to cut your wave which delays the creeps. | ||
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roronoe
Canada1527 Posts
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Heen
Korea (South)2178 Posts
On April 12 2015 03:13 Froadac wrote: In that case some Roscoe's Chicken and Waffles? XD On a more serious note, are there any especially bad lanes that you can recall drafting/having drafted against you? (the worse the better) Sure! In a minor tournament, some unknown team drafted tidehunter. I picked gyrocopter, blocked his ancients and sat in front of his tower with rocket barrage ready. I think he was level 1 @ 8 minutes. In another game, we picked zeus mid and they sent wisp/ck. Blood was shed. I think the most one-sided ones are axe aggro lanes when you made the mistake of assuming it was an axe solo offlane and drafted greedy heroes. | ||
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GranDGranT
Sri Lanka2141 Posts
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Heen
Korea (South)2178 Posts
On April 12 2015 05:05 GranDGranT wrote: Do you miss Jubei? No doubt. I'm not sure if he feels the same though  | ||
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fixed_point
Germany4891 Posts
Not a question, but no matter what happens now, I'll always remember the big plays you and everyone else in the old MVP.P made. It's a shame it didn't work out. | ||
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recomence
3 Posts
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Fencar
United States2694 Posts
On April 12 2015 01:10 Heen wrote: If it's something ridiculous like a slark dual lane vs axe dual lane, I'd try to get a feeling of whether I can outskill the lane. Once I establish that farming the lane takes a lot of risk, I would either ask my laning partner to leave the lane and create noise somewhere else or leave myself. This is because if gold is not a practical reward in the lane, making the lane solo so that the XP is efficient is better than investing multiple people to suffer. Each hero has its own strengths. For slark, you can recover by maxing dark pact and jungling, which only requires levels. Accept that the lane is unwinnable and check runes, clear small/medium camp, maybe stack for mid if it's convenient etc. XP is generally more important than gold to make come backs from a bad laning stage. If you put yourself in the opponent's shoes, dominant lanes are only fun when your opponents are trying to do something about it when they can't. When a slark gets a random invis rune @ minute 4 and ganks mid successfully, things don't seem so fun any more. Also, on slark if you can manage to get some cs on the first few waves before the lane gets out of control, you can rush PMS and orb of venom and cheese the lane @ lvl 2 and beat stuff like Viper before it becomes too late. Sounds good, I'll try out PMS OOV combo sometime! | ||
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DeMoN.
United States1 Post
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deadmau
960 Posts
On April 11 2015 17:59 Heen wrote: I prefer non-Korean food when I'm abroad but sure I'm not claiming to be an expert in Korean food, that would be a terrible insult to you. I would like to show you how great the Korean experience is here from my PoV though, maybe you will be surprised. Beef + Soju, how can you go wrong? I just watched the match against EG, congrats, I was cheering so hard. | ||
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