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NB
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Netherlands12045 Posts
April 11 2015 15:29 GMT
#41
Thanks for doing this. I have couple of questions:

1/ How was the addition of jeraxai materialized? And how do you value your team right now compare to before his arrival?

2/ What is your team primary way to practice? If you scrim, which teams are your go to scrim partners aside from MVP.P?

3/ If given a chance, would you go to another country(China/Malaysia/Sweden/US etc..) to play for a foreign team?
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drsnuggles
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Korea (South)362 Posts
April 11 2015 15:46 GMT
#42
Pretty cool to see do this AMA, I'm one of your few stream viewers ^^
Where's the team house located? Any chance of making a video like teamliquid used to do for their teamhouse? Always nice to see how's it like for progamers.
Heen
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
Korea (South)2178 Posts
April 11 2015 15:46 GMT
#43
On April 11 2015 22:23 PhoenixVoid wrote:
Which teams do you predict will perform the best at TI5? Understandably this is a very early question as not all the teams are set in stone but if there is a general idea it would be nice if you could answer this.

EG because they have stability in both gameplay and draft.
VG because they're super skilled although I don't understand a lot of their drafts.

I think those 2 teams have been the best performers overall since TI4. Yeah, they got 1st and 2nd at DAC respectively but I don't think there was ever a time when people considered them to be slumping or washed up. Stability is really important because it relates to confidence. And confidence matters a lot in LAN.
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opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
April 11 2015 15:56 GMT
#44
So how is Dota performing in Korea? In terms of the pub scene/raw number of players/numbers of competitive-worthy players?
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Heen
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
Korea (South)2178 Posts
April 11 2015 15:57 GMT
#45
On April 11 2015 22:45 soilcow wrote:
how to improve as a mid player something like when to farm andwhen to gank item choice i really want to know thank you

You should focus on a few heroes at a time and slowly expand your hero pool once you feel you've somewhat mastered key ideas on those heroes to the point that it's not efficient to improve any more. On a scale of 0 to 10, improving a hero from 4 to 6 is easier than improving a hero from 6 to 8. Set a goal for yourself, let's say 8. Practice a hero until you hit 8. Then move on to another.

You should look up replays of good performances on your hero of choice and watch the player closely. You have to establish what he's doing that allows him to be impactful rather than memorizing his skill builds and item builds. Try to watch 2-3 games each of 2-3 different players. This way you don't get a biased version of how the hero is 'supposed' to be played. Even TI level players do stuff out of preference and habit so you have to decide for yourself what's worth copying and what's open to interpretation.

If you play too diverse of a hero pool, it's hard to tell how much progress you're making. Stay disciplined.
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Heen
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
Korea (South)2178 Posts
April 11 2015 15:58 GMT
#46
On April 11 2015 22:57 Blitz wrote:
Hi Heen just wanted to say thanks for always being gracious in victory and defeat. It owned having you guys as rivals, and I have you have a lot of success with Hot6ix!

Blitzu! Thanks for the kind words. I hope we bump into each other at some LAN soon!
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AznJDragon
Profile Joined July 2013
United States6 Posts
April 11 2015 16:07 GMT
#47
Hello Heen!

Thank you for doing this!
However, I was wondering why you did not do this on reddit since you could have potentially gotten the team and yourself more exposure.

How has JerAx help strengthen the team? Providing new insight on the game? More Western type style of playing?

Where is Dubu now? I think he has potential the same way with Reisen to be really good on support.

Do you see any of the other Korean eSports organizations (eg: CJ Entus, Samsung, SK Telecom, Jin Air, KT Rolster, NaJin) picking up a DotA2 team any time soon?

Thank you again and good luck to MVPHot6ix hope you guys get invited to TI5 Qualifiers
Heen
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
Korea (South)2178 Posts
April 11 2015 16:10 GMT
#48
On April 11 2015 22:57 Fencar wrote:
When you're in a heavily contested lane as a safelane carry who happens to be a relatively weak laner, say Slark, and whenever you try to CS you end up taking loads of rightclicks and possibly die to spells from the enemy heroes, what do you do to get farm? Do you even forsake farm in favor of rotating to make something happen somewhere else on the map once you have enough levels?

If it's something ridiculous like a slark dual lane vs axe dual lane, I'd try to get a feeling of whether I can outskill the lane. Once I establish that farming the lane takes a lot of risk, I would either ask my laning partner to leave the lane and create noise somewhere else or leave myself. This is because if gold is not a practical reward in the lane, making the lane solo so that the XP is efficient is better than investing multiple people to suffer.

Each hero has its own strengths. For slark, you can recover by maxing dark pact and jungling, which only requires levels.
Accept that the lane is unwinnable and check runes, clear small/medium camp, maybe stack for mid if it's convenient etc. XP is generally more important than gold to make come backs from a bad laning stage.

If you put yourself in the opponent's shoes, dominant lanes are only fun when your opponents are trying to do something about it when they can't. When a slark gets a random invis rune @ minute 4 and ganks mid successfully, things don't seem so fun any more.

Also, on slark if you can manage to get some cs on the first few waves before the lane gets out of control, you can rush PMS and orb of venom and cheese the lane @ lvl 2 and beat stuff like Viper before it becomes too late.
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zelphin
Profile Joined April 2014
47 Posts
April 11 2015 16:11 GMT
#49
Hello, would like to ask 2 questions

1) what do you think of ta mid with regards to the current meta?
2) any particular reasons why most of the troll we see nowadays are playing position 1, rather than mid lane which was the most common spot for him during his previous surge of popularity (back before the whirling axe damage nerf)
Heen
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
Korea (South)2178 Posts
April 11 2015 16:16 GMT
#50
On April 11 2015 23:06 Namarot wrote:
Do you realistically see Dota 2 in Korea getting significantly more popular than it is now? What do you think is required if you think it's possible?

I don't. It's hard to explain why though. It's a combination of Koreans being drawn to games that give you a feeling of progress/growth and good exposure in the media. DotA is neither here.
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Heen
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
Korea (South)2178 Posts
April 11 2015 16:18 GMT
#51
On April 11 2015 23:07 acidviper wrote:
What happened with Reisen?

I don't think he'll be playing DotA competitively for some time. He's playing LoL for fun these days...
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Wala.Revolution
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
7583 Posts
April 11 2015 16:19 GMT
#52
How was your experience in the Korean military?
Stuck.
ahswtini
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Northern Ireland22208 Posts
April 11 2015 16:27 GMT
#53
reisen pls...
"As I've said, balance isn't about strategies or counters, it's about probability and statistics." - paralleluniverse
Heen
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
Korea (South)2178 Posts
April 11 2015 16:27 GMT
#54
On April 11 2015 23:16 PagePincher wrote:
I really like you guys' gameplay during starladder. That warlock pick where noone could counter.

I noticed LoL influence on MVP Phoenix gameplay e.g tanking creeps so tower doesn't hit them. Though i think it's unnecessary because tower in dota2 hit for less damage and creeps damage is pretty significant to hero. My question is how develop/supportive/big is dota2 community in korea?

Sucks for you(to get shuffled out), your main team highly probable gonna get direct invite because there isn't many highly competitive teams on SEA. Anyway, haven't watched any hot6 games so couldn't comment on your guys games. I used to cheer for your team because it was unorthodox and over-aggressive. I found that korean team lacks versality and good composition heroes e.g EG has sumail and PPD could draft anything like treant + phoenix, batrider + earthshaker/lion. Which team you guys usually scrim with?

Not an expert of dota2 but a long time player. I would suggest batrider or axe for offlane. If you could farm dagger so fast or dominate your lane, it's basically easy mid game. Seems like they fit current "comeback mechanic", you could pressure a single high-farmed hero. Another thing i notice is you guys rarely stack ancients. I remember i saw Cloud9.EternalEnvy's excel spreadsheet that show exp and gold gain on ancient stacks, it was humongous. Since you are playing offlane, it could be great to stack it and farm it. Good luck on TI wildcard though! I wish dota2 could grow as big if not bigger than LoL in Korea.

I'm not sure I understand what you're talking about on towers and creeps. LoL had nothing to do with how we played -0-

A lot of people don't understand that teams are made up of human beings and they have weaknesses. Comfort zones are a real thing and not many teams have the balls to YOLO and draft something they haven't tested extensively in a match over thousands of dollars. If anything I'd say EG's strength in draft is consistency rather than diversity.

We usually scrim SEA teams (most of the major ones) and occasionally the lesser known Korean/Chinese teams.

The ancient stacking thing is a fair point and we've gotten better at it recently. Jerax is an efficiency mania.
('''(G_G/'''')
Namarot
Profile Joined April 2015
2 Posts
April 11 2015 16:29 GMT
#55
On April 12 2015 01:16 Heen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 11 2015 23:06 Namarot wrote:
Do you realistically see Dota 2 in Korea getting significantly more popular than it is now? What do you think is required if you think it's possible?

I don't. It's hard to explain why though. It's a combination of Koreans being drawn to games that give you a feeling of progress/growth and good exposure in the media. DotA is neither here.

I see what you mean. I guess not even just marketing from Valve/Nexon by itself would help the situation and there would have to be more than just MMR and cosmetic item drops as "progression". Even if those happened, it would take a miracle to get people away from LoL. Unfortunate.
Heen
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
Korea (South)2178 Posts
April 11 2015 16:29 GMT
#56
On April 11 2015 23:22 stopthatdude wrote:
How would you describe your current team's play-style and what aspects/weakness are you guys focused on improving, if any?

Sorry, I don't feel comfortable answering this question since this thread is public.
('''(G_G/'''')
Heen
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
Korea (South)2178 Posts
April 11 2015 16:32 GMT
#57
On April 11 2015 23:38 AquaHeartNJH wrote:
Good to see you on AMA! What is the plan for hotsix at the moment?

Hello Aqua nim~
I don't know to be honest lol!
We qualified for MPGL so we're going to Malaysia in May and we're playing some lesser known tournaments and keeping it humble for the time being. Our immediate goal is to prove that we're worthy of a TI quali invite.
('''(G_G/'''')
Heen
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
Korea (South)2178 Posts
April 11 2015 16:35 GMT
#58
On April 12 2015 00:20 vizuaLize wrote:
why dont you stream anymore?

and would you move to a caster/analyses type role if given the chance?

I blame our sleeping schedules which have been super random. We scrim almost daily and I have to analyze replays so there's less time than you might think. I don't like streaming for a few hours at a time. I prefer epic streaming sessions of at least 10+ hours :p

I would love to try casting/analysis if I had to move on from being a player but I'm not sure how I would do. Thinking and speaking are completely different!
('''(G_G/'''')
Heen
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
Korea (South)2178 Posts
April 11 2015 16:45 GMT
#59
On April 12 2015 00:23 SpiZe wrote:
What do you think needs to change to level up the field between Radiant and Dire ?

Which side are you implying has the upper hand?
Based on the coin-toss in matches, it seems mostly a matter of preference.
Relative to past versions, the map itself is pretty balanced so far but some asymmetries I don't agree with are:

Radiant ancients being safer to farm than Dire ancients.
Blindly dewarding radiant pull camp being a crap shoot instead of detective work.
Radiant having better ward spots centered around mid T1s.
Radiant rubick being able to cliff offlaners on their rune check attempts is retarded. How is it that Pudge and Vengeful were once forbidden from carrying blink daggers for this same reason but now it's possible at level 1?

Even then, I try to be careful about these kind of things because DotA's asymmetrical map is pretty well balanced and it's hard to know what side-effects 'intuitive' changes will bring.
('''(G_G/'''')
SpiZe
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada3640 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-11 17:23:58
April 11 2015 17:23 GMT
#60
Well maybe it's just my own impression I don't know.

Nowadays I just feel like it's easier to play Radiant, you have a really accessible jungle camp as a mid, allowing to even out a lane thats not going so well or farm faster without relying on your teammates, even the mid lane in itself feels safer. I feel it's a bit harder as Dire where you don't have this easy way out of the early game. Just wanted to know how you felt
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