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sacrilegious
Profile Joined September 2012
Canada863 Posts
June 08 2016 23:00 GMT
#3381
Karma biting them in the ass... w33ha and Misery must be silently laughing this moment all the way
Zaphid
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Czech Republic1860 Posts
June 08 2016 23:01 GMT
#3382
Rosters are locked, so if anybody makes changes, they will have to go through quals 100%. As far as I'm aware, Puppey has been looking for replacements during the whole winter season, the Shanghai win was an outlier, even though it looked like they got their shit together just in time.

Anyway, any roster changes will probably happen only once the Major is over and even then I doubt any players from the top 8 would be willing to give up TI invite to play on Secret/EG.
I will never ever play Mech against Protoss. - MVP
Sabu113
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States11087 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-06-08 23:56:21
June 08 2016 23:56 GMT
#3383
Here's the scary question.

Would Universe go back? If he went back and was back to his normal standard then EG would look worlds more scary.

Then Secret would be a bit SOL
Biomine is a drunken chick who is on industrial strength amphetamines and would just grab your dick and jerk it as hard and violently as she could while screaming 'OMG FUCK ME', because she saw it in a Sasha Grey video ...-Wombat_Ni
FuzzyJAM
Profile Joined July 2010
Scotland9300 Posts
June 09 2016 00:01 GMT
#3384
I think Aui has been the real problem so IDK how much it'd help EG. It's a shame seeing them fall so far.
Did you ever say Yes to a single joy?
uriel-
Profile Joined August 2007
Singapore1867 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-06-09 01:12:52
June 09 2016 01:12 GMT
#3385
The all star lineup seems to be working well then hmm

Looking forward to the next shuffle and secrets run in open qualifiers
common_cider
Profile Joined July 2011
342 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-06-09 01:28:49
June 09 2016 01:19 GMT
#3386
Dota patches are trending away from Secret's preferred play style.

AoE gold, rubberband, nerfed creep bounties, tougher ancients, strength heroes

Liquid, Wings(6 game major sample NWS), NB especially show the huge upside and little downside of playing to the patch.

I want to see more Lycan, Naix, DP, Batrider, Void, Drow, Chen, Huskar, Slardar
More 5 manning, less pushing out lanes
at least on this patch.

For he love of god either Envy learn Lycan or Envy play mid in Lycan games
Never eat at a chinese restraunt located by the pound
TomatoBisque
Profile Joined March 2013
United States6290 Posts
June 09 2016 01:32 GMT
#3387
if rtz stays on the team EE doesn't need to learn Lycan
rip
common_cider
Profile Joined July 2011
342 Posts
June 09 2016 01:41 GMT
#3388
On June 09 2016 10:32 TomatoBisque wrote:
if rtz stays on the team EE doesn't need to learn Lycan


Lycan can't lane mid in anymore unless it's a crazy draft. RTZ would have to safelane Lycan and then mid/offlane ENVY Universe.
Never eat at a chinese restraunt located by the pound
TomatoBisque
Profile Joined March 2013
United States6290 Posts
June 09 2016 02:35 GMT
#3389
Oh I misunderstood what you meant when you said "Envy play mid in Lycan games"
rip
Dysisa
Profile Joined July 2014
Sweden2376 Posts
June 09 2016 02:49 GMT
#3390
On June 09 2016 07:53 haxhax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2016 07:06 Dysisa wrote:
Things are brewing, and very likely involving Team Secret


He's probably referring to Zai leaving them for EG.

Naw, that wouldn't affect the roster locks, since he's already signed for them as a sub.
fuck dota 2 | "i don't like ppd, and i really look forward to one day beating that motherfucker" -Swindlemelonzz, my personal hero
FuzzyJAM
Profile Joined July 2010
Scotland9300 Posts
June 09 2016 03:13 GMT
#3391
On June 09 2016 11:49 Dysisa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2016 07:53 haxhax wrote:
On June 09 2016 07:06 Dysisa wrote:
Things are brewing, and very likely involving Team Secret https://twitter.com/bOne7DotA/status/740603524426403840


He's probably referring to Zai leaving them for EG.

Naw, that wouldn't affect the roster locks, since he's already signed for them as a sub.

Only if Bulba were OK with it, no?
Did you ever say Yes to a single joy?
Sonics12
Profile Joined May 2016
14 Posts
June 09 2016 03:59 GMT
#3392
Guys I have a question.

I didnt know that the rosters were locked till AFTER TI. (Wtf) I thought there was a change period before that. So where does this leave Secret ? Arteezy and Universe clearly has left the team. (Taking down banners etc).

Does that mean they have to go through qualifiers? Like the normal ones. Or OPEN QUAL? I"m so confused.
Spicy_Curry
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States10573 Posts
June 09 2016 04:04 GMT
#3393
theres no way bulba isnt okay with it. He earns the same amount as a coach.
High Risk Low Reward
Nikto
Profile Joined May 2014
Slovakia410 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-06-09 06:19:43
June 09 2016 06:18 GMT
#3394
On June 09 2016 12:59 Sonics12 wrote:(Taking down banners etc).


did they really have them, think real hard about rtz's, he didn't have one, if he had a text dunno but banner hell no and uni, not sure, but same shit, the only people in secret with banners are the 3 remaining players from the new secret (after Ti5 secret)
Talin
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Montenegro10532 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-06-09 07:20:03
June 09 2016 07:17 GMT
#3395
On June 09 2016 13:04 Spicy_Curry wrote:
theres no way bulba isnt okay with it. He earns the same amount as a coach.


That's not how players think. If he wanted to coach and not play, he would not go back to play for DC after TI5, and he wouldn't join EG as a player. It was pretty easy for Bulba to keep making money as a coach after TI5, it was actually a lot harder for him to make money as a player. Players want to play, they don't want to retire, cast, be on panels, be coaches, etc. You can even see this in people like Synderen and 7mad who keep trying to go back even though they could have an easy career if they retired.

Bulba most likely (like 99%) asked for guarantees before joining EG that he will not be replaced or subbed out before TI. Why else would he leave a team that he was a captain and leader of?

Besides thinking that Bulba is the problem and that you can fix this with roster swaps is delusional. There's no player that EG (or Secret) could get, even if they had the free pick of ANY player in the world, that would make their teams suddenly functional.
spudde123
Profile Joined February 2012
4814 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-06-09 07:39:24
June 09 2016 07:35 GMT
#3396
Well he probably left DC assuming that his chances for success are better with EG. I'm sure both Secret and EG didn't even think about the possibility of having to change when they formed these lineups, but now they are at a point where it may be their best option.

I don't really see any of the players "forcing" their spot on a roster if the rest of the team wants them out. Obviously it sucks for you but the alternative is trying to go to TI with a dysfunctional team and probably harming your relationships with fellow players. You may have agreed to sticking with the team until TI, but I don't really see how players are going to enforce those guarantees.

Not sure what you mean by for example EG not being fixable by roster swaps. They got into this state after the roster swaps, all their previous rosters (after PPD etc joined) had better results. I don't think with either team you can say "this one guy is the problem and changing him will fix everything" but changing 1-2 players may change the team dynamic in a positive way.

Won't be too long before we find out what happens I suppose.
the bear jew
Profile Joined August 2014
United States3674 Posts
June 09 2016 11:08 GMT
#3397
On June 09 2016 12:59 Sonics12 wrote:
Guys I have a question.

I didnt know that the rosters were locked till AFTER TI. (Wtf) I thought there was a change period before that. So where does this leave Secret ? Arteezy and Universe clearly has left the team. (Taking down banners etc).

Does that mean they have to go through qualifiers? Like the normal ones. Or OPEN QUAL? I"m so confused.


Yeah rosters locked till after TI. Why do you think it was such a huge drama that Secret changed 2 days before lock period. Cause it was for Major and TI. If Secret makes roster changes, they have to go through Open best of 1 qualifiers to get to the invite qualifiers.
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bluzi
Profile Joined May 2011
4703 Posts
June 09 2016 12:01 GMT
#3398
Valve will still invite EG and secret fuck the rules , those are the golden boyzzzz
Atoissen
Profile Joined July 2011
Norway1737 Posts
June 09 2016 12:04 GMT
#3399
On June 09 2016 21:01 bluzi wrote:
Valve will still invite EG and secret fuck the rules , those are the golden boyzzzz

EG as the defending champions, yeah. But im not so sure about Secret tho...
“Strength lies not in defense but in attack.”
uriel-
Profile Joined August 2007
Singapore1867 Posts
June 09 2016 13:07 GMT
#3400
On June 09 2016 21:04 Atoissen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2016 21:01 bluzi wrote:
Valve will still invite EG and secret fuck the rules , those are the golden boyzzzz

EG as the defending champions, yeah. But im not so sure about Secret tho...

Inviting this version of secret would be a huge joke. They are actually trash right now

And if they shuffle, the rules will prevent their invite. Unless the rules are bent for them, which would also be a huge joke
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