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Sapaio
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hunter_x
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On February 09 2018 03:57 Sapaio wrote: If OG is tier 2, what is Alliance tier 4 or 5? Alliance is a new team, cant really say what tier they are after 3 series. Or do you want to tell me OG is Tier 1? | ||
nothingmuch
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On February 09 2018 04:01 hunter_x wrote: Alliance is a new team, cant really say what tier they are after 3 series. Or do you want to tell me OG is Tier 1? Unless you define tier1 as Liquid/Secret/Newbee (VP is in the air with the rooster change) then of course they are tier1. There is no way that OG winning a big LAN would be an upset. And there was no point today where Alliance was winning. Game 1 OG executed their game plan and won, period. If you count not getting rolled over as "playing well" then fine, they played well. And when you're losing a game in 20 minutes there's just no excuses. That draft wasn't OG pulling some rabbit out of their head- that Storm pick was Alliance putting a gun in their mouths and pulling the trigger. | ||
hunter_x
Germany2762 Posts
On February 09 2018 04:11 nothingmuch wrote: Unless you define tier1 as Liquid/Secret/Newbee (VP is in the air with the rooster change) then of course they are tier1. There is no way that OG winning a big LAN would be an upset. And there was no point today where Alliance was winning. Game 1 OG executed their game plan and won, period. If you count not getting rolled over as "playing well" then fine, they played well. And when you're losing a game in 20 minutes there's just no excuses. That draft wasn't OG pulling some rabbit out of their head- that Storm pick was Alliance putting a gun in their mouths and pulling the trigger. You got it right, those teams you mentioned are my definition of Tier 1. Og has achieved nothing since kiew, they are Tier 2 for sure. And for sure i would be surprised if OG win a big LAN, if Liquid/Secret/Newbee is there. But what do i know, im apparently just a Resident village Idiot;) | ||
nothingmuch
448 Posts
I'm gonna let it go now, this is the Alliance thread and I hope they'll get back on track- there were some hopeful signs in those last 2 and a half series. | ||
Sapaio
Denmark2037 Posts
On February 09 2018 04:01 hunter_x wrote: Alliance is a new team, cant really say what tier they are after 3 series. Or do you want to tell me OG is Tier 1? I can agree that OG at the moment ain't tier 1 , but you made it sound like Alliance was also tier 2 earlier. Just think there is a class difference and i know they are newly formed, but you made it sound like they where already there. So just pointing out that OG is still a tier or more ahead. | ||
hunter_x
Germany2762 Posts
On February 09 2018 04:37 Sapaio wrote: I can agree that OG at the moment ain't tier 1 , but you made it sound like Alliance was also tier 2 earlier. Just think there is a class difference and i know they are newly formed, but you made it sound like they where already there. So just pointing out that OG is still a tier or more ahead. I just said from what alliance showed in their first two series, that i could see them beat og. Obviously i was wrong, maybe OG also got better the last few weeks, because it was pretty convincing, especially game 2. | ||
hunter_x
Germany2762 Posts
On February 09 2018 04:36 nothingmuch wrote: If that's your definition then your previous statement is exactly that- village idiot tier. If tier2 means teams like EG,OG,Mineski, LGD etc. (maybe even VP) and "Alliance is a new team, cant really say what tier they are after 3 series" then "not that strong" and "I would not be surprised (...if Alliance win)" are just clueless statements. I'm gonna let it go now, this is the Alliance thread and I hope they'll get back on track- there were some hopeful signs in those last 2 and a half series. Picking those quotes from me all out of context sure does make you look smart. Good that we have such intelligent people in this community. Im from Munich by the way, not exactly a village xD | ||
jack_knife
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jack_knife
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Nikto
Slovakia410 Posts
On February 09 2018 05:38 jack_knife wrote: there are many good tier1 teams in the world, newbee, vg, vp, secret, even og, they are all good teams. back to the day team liquid couldn't even qualify anything after jerax left, untill they got GH, even though took them half year to find the solution. OG is not that good because of notail's playstyle, but they are back to track, they qualified 2 majors in a row and won a lan. except there are not and you can see it in every tournament the current let's say outstanding top 3 teams trash the others also why don't you swallow your pride and try to communicate with hunter in a normal way instead of trying to provoke him, you are creating this toxic atmosphere in the Alliance forum now, not him I for one am happy Alliance is on the map again and my expectations for them are pretty low, but I expect them to improve and prove me wrong if they can, if they can't, well at least they tried | ||
nothingmuch
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On February 09 2018 04:45 hunter_x wrote: Picking those quotes from me all out of context sure does make you look smart. Good that we have such intelligent people in this community. Im from Munich by the way, not exactly a village xD Oh please. How are those quotes out of context? Feel free to point out how they're not fitting to the Alliance win vs OG tier discussion. I wouldn't even know what other context there could possibly be seeing as we've only been discussing 1 topic here and it's a consecutive comment chain. And when someone calls you the resident village idiot, he's not talking about your IRL location, buddy. You're not exactly making it hard to "look smart" here. | ||
Papercappu
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lowdice
Sweden306 Posts
On February 09 2018 07:36 Nikto wrote: also why don't you swallow your pride and try to communicate with hunter in a normal way instead of trying to provoke him, you are creating this toxic atmosphere in the Alliance forum now, not him Oh please. We've tried that. It's no use. He is the toxic one here. | ||
hunter_x
Germany2762 Posts
On February 09 2018 08:15 lowdice wrote: Oh please. We've tried that. It's no use. He is the toxic one here. You know that people also can change right? In 2016 and maybe early 2017 i was pretty toxic in this forum, and i also got my fair share of bans for it. Doesnt mean i am a saint now, but i dont think i am that angry anymore (i was back then). I had my reasons too, which i dont want to discuss here... | ||
hunter_x
Germany2762 Posts
On February 09 2018 07:52 nothingmuch wrote: Oh please. How are those quotes out of context? Feel free to point out how they're not fitting to the Alliance win vs OG tier discussion. I wouldn't even know what other context there could possibly be seeing as we've only been discussing 1 topic here and it's a consecutive comment chain. And when someone calls you the resident village idiot, he's not talking about your IRL location, buddy. You're not exactly making it hard to "look smart" here. whatever, i dont want to discuss this with you anymore, doesnt lead to anything, and i off topic too. I knew what you meant with your village Idiot phrase, i am not that dumb. I was joking about that, notice my smiley at the end;) | ||
nothingmuch
448 Posts
On February 09 2018 08:29 hunter_x wrote: whatever, i dont want to discuss this with you anymore, doesnt lead to anything, and i off topic too. I knew what you meant with your village Idiot phrase, i am not that dumb. I was joking about that, notice my smiley at the end;) Fair enough my bad then. "Schwamm drüber". | ||
jack_knife
Germany343 Posts
On February 09 2018 08:26 hunter_x wrote: You know that people also can change right? In 2016 and maybe early 2017 i was pretty toxic in this forum, and i also got my fair share of bans for it. Doesnt mean i am a saint now, but i dont think i am that angry anymore (i was back then). I had my reasons too, which i dont want to discuss here... you are still that one, nothing changes. ![]() | ||
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