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Pontual
Profile Joined October 2016
Brazil3038 Posts
January 03 2017 18:59 GMT
#4601
Good question. I don't know if they can do something at this point. Don't think they should try, actually. Just disband and make another team
If they were to do something i would say to begin again, without pression on each other, change themselves and do the best as a team. Don't think they were ever cohesive with this line up
Zea!
Profile Joined November 2006
9589 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-01-04 00:46:41
January 03 2017 19:07 GMT
#4602
On January 04 2017 03:59 Pontual wrote:
Good question. I don't know if they can do something at this point. Don't think they should try, actually. Just disband and make another team
If they were to do something i would say to begin again, without pression on each other, change themselves and do the best as a team. Don't think they were ever cohesive with this line up


Agree, it's kinda clear the synergy is not there, every game is just a confirmation... they don't work together, that's it, time to try something different.
The Real Power~
lookfirewood
Profile Joined May 2011
1212 Posts
January 03 2017 22:33 GMT
#4603
Bootcamp might lead to improvement. Good drafters are not born drafters, Its Hours put into work that leads to knowledge. Only way for them to grow is to learn. So if they refuse to practice they will remain mediocre.
By no means is bootcamp any sort of guarantee, but I see no other option for them. "Hard work and determination" , not only "determination".
Of course they work hard, but what seem to be the biggest issue is draft and synergy, only comes with hours. Some teams can ofc be lucky with synergy from day 1,but that luck runs out sooner or later if u don't put the hour in.

I rarely give up on anything Alliance, but this iteration is the worst by far. Even akke+1 was more entertaining and gave hope for some reason.

End rant.
R.I.P STX 03.08.2013 never forget.
Zea!
Profile Joined November 2006
9589 Posts
January 04 2017 00:51 GMT
#4604
I thought they were finally finding a way after the small tournament in December and the win against Empire but these two series were just terrible... every time you see one step ahead then they make two steps back and the cycle continues... i think WESG will definitely tell me if there's some little hope for this iteration or faith will be completely lost.
The Real Power~
jack_knife
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany343 Posts
January 04 2017 08:06 GMT
#4605
did i miss something, what just happened?
jack_knife
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany343 Posts
January 04 2017 08:07 GMT
#4606
On January 03 2017 06:02 Zea! wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 03 2017 05:47 bluzi wrote:
Worst NP i ever seen in a pro game ..... worst then my pubs


well maybe not the worst but if you compare that to Henrik... you just want to cry :°

dude, you can't compare them, this guy is just a don't know what to do off laner.
bluzi
Profile Joined May 2011
4703 Posts
January 04 2017 09:33 GMT
#4607
On January 04 2017 17:07 jack_knife wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 03 2017 06:02 Zea! wrote:
On January 03 2017 05:47 bluzi wrote:
Worst NP i ever seen in a pro game ..... worst then my pubs


well maybe not the worst but if you compare that to Henrik... you just want to cry :°

dude, you can't compare them, this guy is just a don't know what to do off laner.


Agree , he has the worst map awareness in all the [A] players history , some of his deaths are so cringe worthy i want to kill my self , when he has a bad start (which happens alot in the offlane) he proceeds to feed non stop and just be a burden I've yet to see him do much for us when having a hard lane , he needs a mega good start to be useful in some stages of the game, again i believe his main issue is map awareness , really bad.
Yurie
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
12084 Posts
January 04 2017 11:59 GMT
#4608
On January 04 2017 17:06 jack_knife wrote:
did i miss something, what just happened?

Depressing loss 0-2 against Empire yesterday. They looked lost in drafting and were slowly edged out in both games.
Zea!
Profile Joined November 2006
9589 Posts
January 04 2017 13:20 GMT
#4609
On January 04 2017 17:06 jack_knife wrote:
did i miss something, what just happened?


got dismantled by Rebels 2-0 and Empire the day after 2-0... two of the worst series ever watched.
The Real Power~
jack_knife
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany343 Posts
January 04 2017 13:25 GMT
#4610
On January 04 2017 22:20 Zea! wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 04 2017 17:06 jack_knife wrote:
did i miss something, what just happened?


got dismantled by Rebels 2-0 and Empire the day after 2-0... two of the worst series ever watched.

my god... Rebels...
jack_knife
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany343 Posts
January 04 2017 13:41 GMT
#4611
On January 04 2017 04:07 Zea! wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 04 2017 03:59 Pontual wrote:
Good question. I don't know if they can do something at this point. Don't think they should try, actually. Just disband and make another team
If they were to do something i would say to begin again, without pression on each other, change themselves and do the best as a team. Don't think they were ever cohesive with this line up


Agree, it's kinda clear the synergy is not there, every game is just a confirmation... they don't work together, that's it, time to try something different.

since loda = alliance, i don't expect his retirement(but he rly needs to retire), at least... Handsken+jonass package needs to go. get akke and bulldog back, egm back to position 4. they might secure their tier 2 spot.
Pontual
Profile Joined October 2016
Brazil3038 Posts
January 04 2017 15:53 GMT
#4612
On January 04 2017 22:41 jack_knife wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 04 2017 04:07 Zea! wrote:
On January 04 2017 03:59 Pontual wrote:
Good question. I don't know if they can do something at this point. Don't think they should try, actually. Just disband and make another team
If they were to do something i would say to begin again, without pression on each other, change themselves and do the best as a team. Don't think they were ever cohesive with this line up


Agree, it's kinda clear the synergy is not there, every game is just a confirmation... they don't work together, that's it, time to try something different.

since loda = alliance, i don't expect his retirement(but he rly needs to retire), at least... Handsken+jonass package needs to go. get akke and bulldog back, egm back to position 4. they might secure their tier 2 spot.

Fear was EG, just last year. (he's still kinda there). The difference is only one of them knows when it's time to stop. And Loda influenced me so much back in the gold days
wims80
Profile Joined February 2014
1892 Posts
January 04 2017 16:06 GMT
#4613
I don't know if Fear actually knew when to stop ... I mean, his injury basically forced him to retire
Why are my allies so weak and pathetic?
Pontual
Profile Joined October 2016
Brazil3038 Posts
January 04 2017 16:20 GMT
#4614
On January 05 2017 01:06 wims80 wrote:
I don't know if Fear actually knew when to stop ... I mean, his injury basically forced him to retire

He could have continued. His performace would have dropped, and perhaps his team would lose more. The same can be related to Loda.
But i kinda agree, if it wasn't for his injury fear would've probably be still there
Yurie
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
12084 Posts
January 04 2017 20:24 GMT
#4615
On January 04 2017 22:41 jack_knife wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 04 2017 04:07 Zea! wrote:
On January 04 2017 03:59 Pontual wrote:
Good question. I don't know if they can do something at this point. Don't think they should try, actually. Just disband and make another team
If they were to do something i would say to begin again, without pression on each other, change themselves and do the best as a team. Don't think they were ever cohesive with this line up


Agree, it's kinda clear the synergy is not there, every game is just a confirmation... they don't work together, that's it, time to try something different.

since loda = alliance, i don't expect his retirement(but he rly needs to retire), at least... Handsken+jonass package needs to go. get akke and bulldog back, egm back to position 4. they might secure their tier 2 spot.

I honestly don't want Bulldog back unless the meta of farming offlaner comes back
wims80
Profile Joined February 2014
1892 Posts
January 04 2017 21:05 GMT
#4616
Bulldog could play in the safelane and loda in the offlane
Why are my allies so weak and pathetic?
Jotoco
Profile Joined October 2010
Brazil1342 Posts
January 04 2017 21:29 GMT
#4617
On January 05 2017 05:24 Yurie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 04 2017 22:41 jack_knife wrote:
On January 04 2017 04:07 Zea! wrote:
On January 04 2017 03:59 Pontual wrote:
Good question. I don't know if they can do something at this point. Don't think they should try, actually. Just disband and make another team
If they were to do something i would say to begin again, without pression on each other, change themselves and do the best as a team. Don't think they were ever cohesive with this line up


Agree, it's kinda clear the synergy is not there, every game is just a confirmation... they don't work together, that's it, time to try something different.

since loda = alliance, i don't expect his retirement(but he rly needs to retire), at least... Handsken+jonass package needs to go. get akke and bulldog back, egm back to position 4. they might secure their tier 2 spot.

I honestly don't want Bulldog back unless the meta of farming offlaner comes back


I think it already is back, in a way.

it is easier and more beneficial to be farmed as an offlaner now. The new jungle and bounty runes also help.

I think the talents, specially level 25 ones, also made 4 prot 1 more viable, and with that delaying the game via rat. Help 1 carry get level 25 as quickly as possible while stalling should be a more viable tactic. And bulldog could do wonders rating with a number of heroes.

Yurie
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
12084 Posts
January 06 2017 07:37 GMT
#4618
On January 05 2017 06:29 Jotoco wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 05 2017 05:24 Yurie wrote:
On January 04 2017 22:41 jack_knife wrote:
On January 04 2017 04:07 Zea! wrote:
On January 04 2017 03:59 Pontual wrote:
Good question. I don't know if they can do something at this point. Don't think they should try, actually. Just disband and make another team
If they were to do something i would say to begin again, without pression on each other, change themselves and do the best as a team. Don't think they were ever cohesive with this line up


Agree, it's kinda clear the synergy is not there, every game is just a confirmation... they don't work together, that's it, time to try something different.

since loda = alliance, i don't expect his retirement(but he rly needs to retire), at least... Handsken+jonass package needs to go. get akke and bulldog back, egm back to position 4. they might secure their tier 2 spot.

I honestly don't want Bulldog back unless the meta of farming offlaner comes back


I think it already is back, in a way.

it is easier and more beneficial to be farmed as an offlaner now. The new jungle and bounty runes also help.

I think the talents, specially level 25 ones, also made 4 prot 1 more viable, and with that delaying the game via rat. Help 1 carry get level 25 as quickly as possible while stalling should be a more viable tactic. And bulldog could do wonders rating with a number of heroes.


From what I have seen of this patch the only position I would like Bulldog on is mid. Carry is often a space maker for mid with the start farm or abandoned since the offlane can contest too well with shrine. Some teams have done the classical three people in safe lane, which Bulldog would fit in with. Alliance in interviews seemed to wish for a more aggressive style which means contested farm on both safe and offlane.
LemOn
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
United Kingdom8629 Posts
January 06 2017 21:52 GMT
#4619
Isn't more the question here if Bulldog would come back?
Only top tier player on the team is Limpp at this point, and EGM on his very limited hero pool he doesn't get to play anyway.

Why'd Bulldog join a tier2 team when he's crushing with his stream?
Much is the father figure that I miss in my life. Go Daddy! DoC.LemOn, LemOn[5thF]
Pontual
Profile Joined October 2016
Brazil3038 Posts
January 07 2017 00:40 GMT
#4620
I mean, Bulldog is having fun (at least it seems). Maybe pro dota it's on his past
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