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Hoenicker
243 Posts
On December 23 2014 04:48 spudde123 wrote: Based on? The blog, his stream or what? Well, I started to notice after he poured a soft drink over a colleague, its too bad most gamers have no backbone I wish he'd done that to me, the little fat kid. His comments on twitter in general also seem to indicate that he is petty, entitled and all round toxic. And this is my personal opinion, so if you think he's an amazing human being good for you. idc. | ||
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Sn0_Man
Tebellong44238 Posts
not sure where "little fat kid" comes from other than ur desire to insult him without any real base. | ||
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spudde123
4814 Posts
On December 23 2014 05:23 Hoenicker wrote: Well, I started to notice after he poured a soft drink over a colleague, its too bad most gamers have no backbone I wish he'd done that to me, the little fat kid. His comments on twitter in general also seem to indicate that he is petty, entitled and all round toxic. And this is my personal opinion, so if you think he's an amazing human being good for you. idc. I don't really think at all that he is "an amazing human being" but not sure what that has to do with "its never my fault" mentality necessarily. To me "its never my fault" seems like something that would be extremely detrimental to a dota team, and it seems clear that all his teammates hold him in very high regard. For example you don't hear many people talk about a teammate like Aui did in his most recent video. But outside of that I don't really have a strong opinion either way, he says and does some stupid stuff but without knowing the guy personally I don't really have a reason to like or dislike him. "Comments on twitter" doesn't seem to be a very good place to judge someone's character. | ||
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Piledriver
United States1697 Posts
On December 23 2014 05:36 spudde123 wrote: I don't really think at all that he is "an amazing human being" but not sure what that has to do with "its never my fault" mentality necessarily. To me "its never my fault" seems like something that would be extremely detrimental to a dota team, and it seems clear that all his teammates hold him in very high regard. For example you don't hear many people talk about a teammate like Aui did in his most recent video. But outside of that I don't really have a strong opinion either way, he says and does some stupid stuff but without knowing the guy personally I don't really have a reason to like or dislike him. "Comments on twitter" doesn't seem to be a very good place to judge someone's character. Anyone who uses pejoratives like "little fat kid" or "autistic", does not really count as an intelligent or empathetic human being in my book. Plus he pulls the typical strawman that people pull out when criticizing someone. No one thinks Envy's a wonderful human being. He's a great carry and captain, probably one who will be in the scene for the foreseeable future, and has definitely left his mark on the scene. He has tremendous hardwork, dedication and drive towards DotA. Also he has balls of steel to be able to quit one of the top universities in Canada (and perhaps the world) to play DotA. But that doesn't make him a great human being. It just makes him a remarkable dota player and reflects his work ethic. | ||
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Hoenicker
243 Posts
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Sn0_Man
Tebellong44238 Posts
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Piledriver
United States1697 Posts
On December 23 2014 06:47 Hoenicker wrote: I didnt call him autistic, but I wonder what made you think that? And yes mea culpa, mea culpa, he is merely big boned. This detracts from the discussion, which is his behaviour indicates to me, that he is, just slighly, toxic. Not you, but half of reddit does. It was more of a generalization rather than something directed just at you. | ||
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goody153
44240 Posts
On December 23 2014 04:44 Hoenicker wrote: Envy seems to posses the "its never my fault" mentality, growing to dislike him more and more somehow. Actually, not somehow, he's an entitled little brat. Idk what you're talking about he admits "I fucked up" a lot. You probably just want to flame him for no reason. | ||
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FuzzyJAM
Scotland9300 Posts
The people who think it's really arrogant or incapable of accepting fault are just uninformed. He's one of the most self-critical pros on the scene. Yes, he criticises others a bunch, but that's just because he has high standards for himself and everyone else. | ||
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Sa6peto
Bulgaria162 Posts
Kept complaining and complaining and its just Fucking frustrating . I used to watch him stream alot b4 , but lately its just Garbage ... Sorry EE :| | ||
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spudde123
4814 Posts
On December 24 2014 03:13 Sa6peto wrote: Duno m8 , Im C9 fanboy , but i got matched with EE 1 game 2 days ago , and he just did not shut up when he got ganged and complained bout no miss calls , when we spamed the sh1t out of it that there is 2 ppl missing . Kept complaining and complaining and its just Fucking frustrating . I used to watch him stream alot b4 , but lately its just Garbage ... Sorry EE :| Yea his pubs definitely aren't that fun to watch at times, but pubs != c9. In a pub setting he seems fairly emotional like a lot of dota players, and may get annoyed by stuff, at times even without reason like in your case it seems. And compared to some other people he seems to try to get his teammates to do what he thinks is good, which in pubs seems to lead to a whole lot of disappointment. | ||
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PhoenixVoid
Canada32746 Posts
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Dac
Canada538 Posts
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FuzzyJAM
Scotland9300 Posts
On January 03 2015 01:36 Dac wrote: Did they really need revitalizing though? Probably. Envy has been emo recently and it seems like the team in general was as well. | ||
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Sabu113
United States11076 Posts
On January 03 2015 00:49 PhoenixVoid wrote: So it seems basically set that Aui and pld are leaving while Misery and n0tail are the rumored replacements. So sad they are leaving because they are part of the core of C9 since the Speed Gaming days. n0tail and Misery add some fresh play to the team though so I hope it revitalizes their play. Really shock PLD is leaving. I Thought he and EE were the closest of the group. | ||
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Sa6peto
Bulgaria162 Posts
those changes that actually happened ... Duno , some of the stuff makes no sense for me... Obviously there are internal discussions and stuff , but to replace PLD and Aui2cutie with Notail and misery ... thats just a bad trade imo . Aint gona get into the other roster changes , there is thread for that ... but i dont see things going to well for neither of the affected | ||
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ampson
United States2355 Posts
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sfasdfasdf
Canada176 Posts
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teddyoojo
Germany22369 Posts
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Fwizzz
Philippines4420 Posts
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