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Daralii
United States16991 Posts
On January 03 2015 22:35 teddyoojo wrote: where has it ever ever been said that its pld out????????????????? Rumors that N0tail and Misery will be joining, which would indicate they're shedding someone other than Aui. It's obviously not EE and Fata confirmed a while back that he's not leaving. | ||
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Xendarii
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Smashdotz
Singapore14 Posts
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borobudur
16 Posts
On January 04 2015 14:14 Smashdotz wrote: PLD is out I think. BDN and Misery is in according to the DAC tournament thread. So I guess PLD going to either Alliance or Tinker? PLD may be playing with H4nn1, w33, fly and Xcalibur. ![[image loading]](http://puu.sh/e33f1/1dc90cfef6.png) | ||
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Robo-boogey
Australia110 Posts
I think this would make them stronger. I think that what the team has been lacking recently is skill of execution at the support positions. I don't mean that Aui and Pie are bad, clearly they are good solid players who fit in with the team. But they are rarely match-winningly good either. Other than Aui's visage they are rarely ban targets. They are reliable at stacking the jungle, and keeping good positioning in teamfights. But both Notail and Misery can pull off some seriously good plays. The risk is that losing established cogs destabilises the team. Aui especially seems like a model teammate. Sometimes the "teammanship" skill is underrated in a workplace, it really makes a difference to getting a team working smoothly. I find it hard to believe Aui was kicked, and the fact he has found his way to EG suggests he made his own choice. But based on the net result of the rotations, I still think this is a net positive for C9 as long as they can work as a team with the new support duo. | ||
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spudde123
4814 Posts
On January 04 2015 21:25 Robo-boogey wrote: The predicted change is Misery and Notail in, with Aui and Pie out. I think this would make them stronger. I think that what the team has been lacking recently is skill of execution at the support positions. I don't mean that Aui and Pie are bad, clearly they are good solid players who fit in with the team. But they are rarely match-winningly good either. Other than Aui's visage they are rarely ban targets. They are reliable at stacking the jungle, and keeping good positioning in teamfights. But both Notail and Misery can pull off some seriously good plays. The risk is that losing established cogs destabilises the team. Aui especially seems like a model teammate. Sometimes the "teammanship" skill is underrated in a workplace, it really makes a difference to getting a team working smoothly. I find it hard to believe Aui was kicked, and the fact he has found his way to EG suggests he made his own choice. But based on the net result of the rotations, I still think this is a net positive for C9 as long as they can work as a team with the new support duo. Indeed there are a lot of factors at play and it isn't easy to say whether a team will improve, change is always somewhat of a risk. I think there is a good chance that the top3 teams may be the same in the west, it just is a question of who wins the games in the semi finals and finals this time. Aui at EG may be interesting though, as I agree with you that he seems like a pretty good teammate and is also used to practicing a lot with c9, so he may be pushing EG towards that direction. A good atmosphere and a lot of practice may keep EG strong as well. As far as c9 goes, in my opinion with the old support duo c9 suffered in the early game compared to Secret and EG for example. You can even give them the same heroes, let's say n0tail ET vs Aui ET, or n0tail/PPD ES vs Aui/PLD ES, or n0tail wisp vs PLD wisp, and I feel in the early game Secret/EG supports get far more work done. Similar story with Misery I think as well, as my impression of him is also that he is very good in his early rotations. But also the old support duo had their strengths. Firstly they played together for a long time (bone7/EE/PLD played together for over 20 months, Aui also was with them for like 16 months), so they must have got along in and outside the game pretty well. In game for example farming efficiently and constantly splitpushing and spreading the map was very natural to Aui, whereas it might not be the same for the new players. At times this was a very positive thing with the way c9 played their games, his Visage being the best example. But there were also other times when I think the natural tendencies of a player sort of made the team not use certain heroes optimally, for example at the Summit when Aui played Omniknight he found himself several times on the other side of the map just farming away while the team was looking to take fights (and Omni being pretty much the best hero for those skirmishes). I think their playstyle will switch a bit, it will definitely be interesting to see. | ||
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Murkinlol
United States366 Posts
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DucK-
Singapore11447 Posts
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MirageTaN
Singapore871 Posts
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Daralii
United States16991 Posts
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isospeedrix
United States215 Posts
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Wintex
Norway16838 Posts
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slmw
Finland233 Posts
We gucci. | ||
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Daralii
United States16991 Posts
Not bad. | ||
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PuercoPop
Peru277 Posts
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lolnoty
United States7166 Posts
http://www.reddit.com/r/DotA2/comments/2s9iay/c9_piliedie_i_was_kicked_i_didnt_leave/ | ||
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Invoker
Belgium686 Posts
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Exoteric
Australia2330 Posts
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goody153
44240 Posts
EE is gonna be the new loda .. Everybody is gonna hate him whether it be justifiable or not | ||
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Hoenicker
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