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Murlox
France1699 Posts
On September 16 2016 08:38 Chewbacca. wrote: Yeah, first sentence of the second paragraph. To be fair, mentally drop the smile of Cr1t, add him glasses, and he almost looks like ppd. Well, more than any of the other 4 would, anyway. | ||
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Murlox
France1699 Posts
(where is the delete function in this forum seriously) | ||
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lolnoty
United States7166 Posts
On September 16 2016 08:15 nayumi wrote: Rtz and Sumail can't lead. Universe and Zai are a bit quite. Crit is new. The lack of shot caller will hurt this team a lot. Though if they can overcome that I can't see them not making at least top 3 next Major. PPD was as "new" (as in, by popular perception) when he shotcalled sadboys | ||
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hifriend
China7935 Posts
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BreakupBoy
Germany171 Posts
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SupLilSon
Malaysia4123 Posts
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adzzlie
Korea (South)81 Posts
I think PPD not in the team (coach/player) is really a disturbing thing, at least for me. Totally new style of drafting, I guess. Second. Why would you kick RTZ TWICE so that you will recruit him for the THIRD time? | ||
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Alpino
Brazil4390 Posts
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Diavlo
Belgium2915 Posts
On September 16 2016 09:32 adzzlie wrote: First thing first. I think PPD not in the team (coach/player) is really a disturbing thing, at least for me. Totally new style of drafting, I guess. Second. Why would you kick RTZ TWICE so that you will recruit him for the THIRD time? They never kicked RTZ, he left because of ppd and the opportunity to play with friends. | ||
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babysimba
10466 Posts
I think the key to succeeding is Universe. Unless he returns to form where he can actually play tempo offlaners like 1-2 years ago, this team is doomed to fail. I just don't see a team without PPD that is able to control the egos to let Universe play his greedy playstyle. | ||
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hound_98
United States66 Posts
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caiovigg
Brazil1802 Posts
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brinepumps
Indonesia753 Posts
On September 16 2016 04:19 Dracolich70 wrote: Only Universe is old at 26, the rest are 17-20. That is young boys. Honey, I concede, I'm more than old. "of course you are, you're 31 with 2 kids. Stop playing games. Now go fold the laundry" Affirmative | ||
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Dracolich70
Denmark3820 Posts
On September 16 2016 09:16 SupLilSon wrote: This has never in itself formed a great team, actually it highlights the problem, or at least one of them; ego.I think this roster looks very strong and is definitely an improvement. People in here are blowing the intangibles way out of proportion. This team is basically fielding top talent at every single position. Fear has a job on his hands, and these guys have to gel, and work as a unit, rather than a gathering of individual skill, as often happens when there are no "watercarriers", or experienced minds pulling the strings. Two years ago I spent time trying to explain Cr1t- that confidence is not just good, as you can become overconfident; cocky, while he thought confidence was just a positive, and you couldn't be too confident. On September 16 2016 10:32 brinepumps wrote: It was meant in quotes and in context of the ages. Just like you call a footballer old, when at 30+. Kamisamanachi thought they were far from young.Honey, I concede, I'm more than old. "of course you are, you're 31 with 2 kids. Stop playing games. Now go fold the laundry" Affirmative You are still young at 31, even if the wife and two kids most likely sucked most juice out of you. In context of gamers, you are old, although merely a child compared to me. | ||
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Amarok
Australia2003 Posts
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common_cider
342 Posts
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Obamarauder
697 Posts
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SupLilSon
Malaysia4123 Posts
On September 16 2016 10:40 Dracolich70 wrote: This has never in itself formed a great team, actually it highlights the problem, or at least one of them; ego. Fear has a job on his hands, and these guys have to gel, and work as a unit, rather than a gathering of individual skill, as often happens when there are no "watercarriers", or experienced minds pulling the strings. Two years ago I spent time trying to explain Cr1t- that confidence is not just good, as you can become overconfident; cocky, while he thought confidence was just a positive, and you couldn't be too confident. It was meant in quotes and in context of the ages. Just like you call a footballer old, when at 30+. Kamisamanachi thought they were far from young. You are still young at 31, even if the wife and two kids most likely sucked most juice out of you. In context of gamers, you are old, although merely a child compared to me. That's a fair assessment and I can't deny that there's a chance this team will underperform. However, cohesiveness and teamwork can be developed over time. I think it's harder to significantly increase individual skill across a whole team. If this team gels, which I believe they will, they will be a serious top international contender. Most of these players have played together for extensive periods of time through several metas. People are overplaying how much "ego" these individual players have and how they will clash. I'm sure all of these players had multiple options during the shuffle and chose to play together. This isn't a rag tag group of players rushing to find teams at the end of the shuffle. But sure, we've seen many dream teams fail to live up to the hype. | ||
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Beyonder01
Canada44 Posts
On September 16 2016 10:06 babysimba wrote: Remember the deleted PPD's tweet about "The hand that feeds"? Chances are he got voted out instead of willingly switch to management. I think the key to succeeding is Universe. Unless he returns to form where he can actually play tempo offlaners like 1-2 years ago, this team is doomed to fail. I just don't see a team without PPD that is able to control the egos to let Universe play his greedy playstyle. Yep. There is no way PPD chose management over playing. I think after round 2 fail with Arteezy it was only a matter of time until something like this happened. | ||
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shizaep
Canada2920 Posts
And didn't we all witness the Arteezy/Suma1l "playstyle clash" the last time it happened? What makes people think it will be different the second time around? | ||
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