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Pennyblue
Profile Joined June 2014
United Kingdom11 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-06-13 13:38:53
June 13 2015 13:35 GMT
#141
Ohemgee! This is unbelievably exciting. Every single change covered is a huge improvement on the current UI. My favourite has to be the DotaTV changes, as I assume they are saying you get integrated tournament streams + in-game viewer. Not only will this be great for fans like me, but I bet that ticket sales will see a big increase.

Very excited for the next two parts of the announcement.

/edit Also just making the UI run smoother will be awesome. How the current UI feels clunkier than the actual game I have no idea.
Professional Carebear. 'Life is just a combination of Magic and Pasta' - Federico Fellini
Vertical
Profile Joined July 2011
Indonesia4317 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-06-13 14:33:22
June 13 2015 14:31 GMT
#142
I really don't get the overreaction hype
As if we're getting new game and lame blizzard etc
This is essentially just a new UI
In 2 weeks this is gonna be forgotten

Of course custom map will be exiting
But in the end we come for dota

I only care for the hero MMR
because i believe i supposed to be at the higher mmr than i am now :p
-Terran-
Unleashing
Profile Joined March 2011
Denmark14978 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-06-13 14:41:16
June 13 2015 14:40 GMT
#143
On June 13 2015 23:31 Vertical wrote:
I really don't get the overreaction hype
As if we're getting new game and lame blizzard etc
This is essentially just a new UI
In 2 weeks this is gonna be forgotten

Of course custom map will be exiting
But in the end we come for dota

I only care for the hero MMR
because i believe i supposed to be at the higher mmr than i am now :p

How will QOL upgrades be forgotten? They'll be permanently there.
Dota TV will supposedly actually function properly.
The new engine almost certainly means better optimization meaning the game will run better.
The new engine is also easier to work in supposedly meaning valve can produce more content and events for stuff like diretide, frostivus and what not.
Plus, valve finishing up their work on the whole source 2 aspect of dota2 also means that they'll begin focusing their work elsewhere. The last heroes being ported. Bug fixes. New game modes. Overall improvement of various aspects.

How the hell is this stuff that'll be 'forgotten in 2 weeks'
From the Ghastly Eyrie I can see to the ends of the world, and from this vantage point I declare with utter certainty that this one is in the bag!
retr0x
Profile Joined May 2015
12 Posts
June 13 2015 14:48 GMT
#144
On June 13 2015 23:31 Vertical wrote:
I really don't get the overreaction hype
As if we're getting new game and lame blizzard etc
This is essentially just a new UI
In 2 weeks this is gonna be forgotten

This is until you realize how much time you spend in the client *not* playing : checking out the store, checking out your inventory, inviting/chatting with friends, waiting looking for a game, checking out live games to watch, checking out your profile/match history... The list goes on.

The client UI is an important part of the Dota experience. Having a more welcoming and more appealing UI means more time spent in the game doing useful things (as in, bringing value to the player), and it means more newcomers attracted to the game (man, I still remember when I launched the game for the first time 2 years ago, right before TI3, I thought "wtf is this mess? HTML content here, half-assed social features there, big dumb buttons and tabs everywhere). I think it deserves all the hype it's getting.
ilsamsamchil
Profile Joined September 2010
155 Posts
June 13 2015 15:09 GMT
#145
Maybe this will also get rid of all the bugs like minimap revealing location of heroes/creeps for a split second, or certain effects showing up through fog etc. like hearing TP or QOP blinks even though you arent supposed to hear anything.

I can't really respect Dota as a real game with bugs like these TBH. I mean even Warcraft 2 had the concept of fog of wars on the lock down nearly 2 decades ago and these people are running multi-million tournaments with the inferior RTS base compared to Warcraft 3. =\ I realllllllllllly hope the source 2 means this will be handled (and not just new shiny things that I will forget about a week later)

the general consensus is that requirements will go down as the engine is more optimised and uses cpu more efficiently. it also balances the load onto video cards more (source 1 is heavily cpu dependant)


meanwhile yay for my underutilized 7870.
https://www.twitch.tv/ShowbuTV
Vertical
Profile Joined July 2011
Indonesia4317 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-06-13 15:32:59
June 13 2015 15:21 GMT
#146
On June 13 2015 23:48 retr0x wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 13 2015 23:31 Vertical wrote:
I really don't get the overreaction hype
As if we're getting new game and lame blizzard etc
This is essentially just a new UI
In 2 weeks this is gonna be forgotten

This is until you realize how much time you spend in the client *not* playing : checking out the store, checking out your inventory, inviting/chatting with friends, waiting looking for a game, checking out live games to watch, checking out your profile/match history... The list goes on.

The client UI is an important part of the Dota experience. Having a more welcoming and more appealing UI means more time spent in the game doing useful things (as in, bringing value to the player), and it means more newcomers attracted to the game (man, I still remember when I launched the game for the first time 2 years ago, right before TI3, I thought "wtf is this mess? HTML content here, half-assed social features there, big dumb buttons and tabs everywhere). I think it deserves all the hype it's getting.

What I do is click find games then alt tab to chrome
So no added value there
The longest time I spend in client when not playing is picking item to be recycled

I'm not saying the UI is not worth to be upgraded
It's amazingly great, it looked like some of apple designed
And yeah the old "today" tab is slow like sloth

But than again, just like android UI update, it's great help in QOL, but we'll forgot it in 2 weeks and focused back to the game

Bug should be squashed
They does not deserve hype for quashing in game bugs
It's something they have to do, be it by source 1 2 or 999

Oh and yeah the dota tv is good update
I don't buy ticket to watch game, and I prefer watching in twitch to see the action in the stage
So... Yeah...


Im not saying the update is meh
Its a needed updated
But the hype we're giving is not that worthy
In the end it's still the same dota through and through
Its not the same jump from Dota WC3 to Dota 2
-Terran-
AndyJay
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Australia833 Posts
June 13 2015 15:41 GMT
#147
On June 14 2015 00:09 ilsamsamchil wrote:
Maybe this will also get rid of all the bugs like minimap revealing location of heroes/creeps for a split second, or certain effects showing up through fog etc. like hearing TP or QOP blinks even though you arent supposed to hear anything.

I can't really respect Dota as a real game with bugs like these TBH. I mean even Warcraft 2 had the concept of fog of wars on the lock down nearly 2 decades ago and these people are running multi-million tournaments with the inferior RTS base compared to Warcraft 3. =\ I realllllllllllly hope the source 2 means this will be handled (and not just new shiny things that I will forget about a week later)

Show nested quote +
the general consensus is that requirements will go down as the engine is more optimised and uses cpu more efficiently. it also balances the load onto video cards more (source 1 is heavily cpu dependant)


meanwhile yay for my underutilized 7870.


The visual things are annoying but there's still quite a lot of sloppy handling of RTS fixtures that may make custom maps a real pain, especially with their tendency to put huge amounts of units on screen. Things like unit selection, pathfinding, attack priority etc. One of the reasons wc3 custom maps worked so well because the base game was so solid at these fundamentals.
Animzor
Profile Joined March 2011
Sweden2154 Posts
June 13 2015 16:39 GMT
#148
On June 13 2015 23:31 Vertical wrote:
I really don't get the overreaction hype
As if we're getting new game and lame blizzard etc
This is essentially just a new UI
In 2 weeks this is gonna be forgotten

Of course custom map will be exiting
But in the end we come for dota

I only care for the hero MMR
because i believe i supposed to be at the higher mmr than i am now :p


Yes, let's be salty and angry and never happy about anything.
Yergidy
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States2107 Posts
June 13 2015 16:49 GMT
#149
On June 13 2015 23:31 Vertical wrote:
I really don't get the overreaction hype
As if we're getting new game and lame blizzard etc
This is essentially just a new UI
In 2 weeks this is gonna be forgotten

Of course custom map will be exiting
But in the end we come for dota

I only care for the hero MMR
because i believe i supposed to be at the higher mmr than i am now :p

How many times are you going to say the same fucking thing dude?
One bright day in the middle of the night, Two dead boys got up to fight; Back to back they faced each other, Drew their swords and shot each other.
Alur
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Denmark3900 Posts
June 13 2015 17:22 GMT
#150
On June 14 2015 00:21 Vertical wrote:
Oh and yeah the dota tv is good update
I don't buy ticket to watch game, and I prefer watching in twitch to see the action in the stage
So... Yeah...

You don't need to purchase a ticket to watch TI.
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Byyk
Profile Joined December 2004
457 Posts
June 13 2015 18:20 GMT
#151
Thank you lord Gaben, thank you sooo much!
After this kind of patch, you can realise that on LotV works 1 developer.
Ma Jae Yoon, sAviOr, the greatest player of all time.
hfglgg
Profile Joined December 2012
Germany5372 Posts
June 13 2015 18:23 GMT
#152
i think this patch is the most important one and the least hypeworthy one at the same time, if that makes any sense.
it has all the tools to change dota as we know it with custom games, more community building and better dotatv but at the same time, when the patch hits nothing will change for the players for the first few weeks or even months. the UI looks better and has a few convenience options but thats about it.

so on one hand i am really looking forward to what dota is in 12 months time, but on the other hand i couldnt care less wether the patch comes this week or in 3 months.
Latham
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
9568 Posts
June 13 2015 19:37 GMT
#153
Wish this would happen instantly, but sadly we'll get the final product only after TI 5
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Laserist
Profile Joined September 2011
Turkey4269 Posts
June 13 2015 21:11 GMT
#154
Will it work with HTC/Valve display thingy?
“Are you with the Cartel? Because you’re definitely an Angel.”
FHDH
Profile Joined July 2014
United States7023 Posts
June 13 2015 21:25 GMT
#155
On June 14 2015 06:11 Laserist wrote:
Will it work with HTC/Valve display thingy?

I'm sure they designed it with that in mind.
После драки кулаками не машут (Don't shake your fist when the fight is over)
Zea!
Profile Joined November 2006
9589 Posts
June 13 2015 22:11 GMT
#156
On June 13 2015 23:31 Vertical wrote:
I really don't get the overreaction hype
As if we're getting new game and lame blizzard etc
This is essentially just a new UI
In 2 weeks this is gonna be forgotten

Of course custom map will be exiting
But in the end we come for dota

I only care for the hero MMR
because i believe i supposed to be at the higher mmr than i am now :p


* This, give us PIT LORD
The Real Power~
AndyJay
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Australia833 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-06-14 01:10:58
June 14 2015 01:10 GMT
#157
I'd be happy if there was some features to get people talking and playing together with strangers. They only seem to care about facilitating play between people who are friends.

What happened to the coaching feature? What happened to guilds?

Yeah getting new buttons and animations is nice but this is probably going to be the last UI update we'll get in a few years, I want something that improves the game experience and community.
Vertical
Profile Joined July 2011
Indonesia4317 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-06-14 01:57:51
June 14 2015 01:50 GMT
#158
On June 14 2015 01:49 Yergidy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 13 2015 23:31 Vertical wrote:
I really don't get the overreaction hype
As if we're getting new game and lame blizzard etc
This is essentially just a new UI
In 2 weeks this is gonna be forgotten

Of course custom map will be exiting
But in the end we come for dota

I only care for the hero MMR
because i believe i supposed to be at the higher mmr than i am now :p

How many times are you going to say the same fucking thing dude?

The first one i post only after seing the 1st page of this thread
This new one I post after I actually went to dota 2 site
Hoping I get the hype, or anyone could elaborate


But of course, everyone needs to be sarcastic and rude in respond anything that contrary to their opinion

Look at andy jay comment above this post
Exactly what I mean
Game experience is the most important
I am hype if we get Zet and Pit Lord though
That will move to heroes that we never seen before
On June 14 2015 03:23 hfglgg wrote:
i think this patch is the most important one and the least hypeworthy one at the same time, if that makes any sense.
it has all the tools to change dota as we know it with custom games, more community building and better dotatv but at the same time, when the patch hits nothing will change for the players for the first few weeks or even months. the UI looks better and has a few convenience options but thats about it.

so on one hand i am really looking forward to what dota is in 12 months time, but on the other hand i couldnt care less wether the patch comes this week or in 3 months.

Exactly my point
This is a very important and great update
But not really that hype worthy
This will still be the same dota through and through
I personally gonna spend 90% of my time in game
-Terran-
Vertical
Profile Joined July 2011
Indonesia4317 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-06-14 01:59:50
June 14 2015 01:58 GMT
#159
Whoops double post
Please ignore
-Terran-
FHDH
Profile Joined July 2014
United States7023 Posts
June 14 2015 03:30 GMT
#160
"I don't care that much about any of the things shown in this update so far" --> "this update isn't that exciting"

Obviously subjective.
После драки кулаками не машут (Don't shake your fist when the fight is over)
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