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rabidch
United States20289 Posts
On March 06 2012 14:35 NB wrote: i prefer start with napalm and max firefly first... reason being most people have wand if u max napalm -_- if you have enough stacks firefly will take 1 second longer to kill them. whoop dee doo | ||
TheYango
United States47024 Posts
On March 06 2012 14:35 NB wrote: i prefer start with napalm and max firefly first... reason being most people have wand if u max napalm -_- It's actually better for you to max Napalm if people get Wand against you. You're not going to kill them with Firefly on 0 stacks anyway--you're still going to be throwing out Napalm just the same. If you're stacking Napalm either way, you'd rather them be getting Wand charges for strong Napalm stacks than for weak ones. | ||
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rabidch
United States20289 Posts
On March 06 2012 17:25 TheYango wrote: It's actually better for you to max Napalm if people get Wand against you. You're not going to kill them with Firefly on 0 stacks anyway--you're still going to be throwing out Napalm just the same. If you're stacking Napalm either way, you'd rather them be getting Wand charges for strong Napalm stacks than for weak ones. not to mention they have to trade last hits for napalm stacks, in long lanes this can be pretty brutal | ||
flamewheel
FREEAGLELAND26781 Posts
Note: ignoring napalm-based damage gain from physical attacks Napalm: 10/15/20/25 Firefly: 20/40/60/80 Level 7: max Napalm (4/1/1/1) or Firefly (1/1/4/1) Napalm Stacks = x Max Napalm DPS: 25x + 20 Max Firefly DPS: 10x + 80 25x + 20 = 10x + 80 15x = 60 x = 4 Just through comparing Firefly damage with additive Napalm stacks we see that at level 7, maxed Napalm yields higher DPS than maxing Firefly. This doesn't even take into account bonus damage granted through physical hits or Flamebreak, which only tip the scales further in favor of maxing Napalm first. | ||
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Dead9
United States4725 Posts
u do 4021 or 2041 napalm is preferred cus it makes them walk slower firefly is cool too but it doesn't make them walk slower | ||
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flamewheel
FREEAGLELAND26781 Posts
for the sake of completeness 25x + 40 = 15x + 80 10x = 40 x = 4 stacks still | ||
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rabidch
United States20289 Posts
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TheYango
United States47024 Posts
"All damage from Batrider's attacks, items and skills is amplified, except for damage from Radiance." Does this mean that Sticky Napalm damage is added to Orb of Venom procs? | ||
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cilinder007
Slovenia7251 Posts
On March 06 2012 18:14 TheYango wrote: On the topic of Sticky Napalm: "All damage from Batrider's attacks, items and skills is amplified, except for damage from Radiance." Does this mean that Sticky Napalm damage is added to Orb of Venom procs? I think it was when he was added but changed then, because it was so imbalanced, could be wrong though | ||
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Dead9
United States4725 Posts
was bugged and did work in dota 2 but was fixed a while back | ||
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rabidch
United States20289 Posts
On March 06 2012 18:14 TheYango wrote: On the topic of Sticky Napalm: "All damage from Batrider's attacks, items and skills is amplified, except for damage from Radiance." Does this mean that Sticky Napalm damage is added to Orb of Venom procs? no, didnt work in dota1, it did in dota2 for a little bit but was changed out. though most everything else works, like mjolnir | ||
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Mafe
Germany5966 Posts
On March 06 2012 18:14 TheYango wrote: On the topic of Sticky Napalm: "All damage from Batrider's attacks, items and skills is amplified, except for damage from Radiance." Does this mean that Sticky Napalm damage is added to Orb of Venom procs? Or urn? Or maelstrom proc jumps? Or Blade mail? | ||
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rabidch
United States20289 Posts
On March 06 2012 18:22 Mafe wrote: Or urn? Or maelstrom proc jumps? Or Blade mail? urn and blademail dont work, maelstrom does | ||
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TheYango
United States47024 Posts
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Yoshi-
Germany10227 Posts
On March 06 2012 18:14 TheYango wrote: On the topic of Sticky Napalm: "All damage from Batrider's attacks, items and skills is amplified, except for damage from Radiance." Does this mean that Sticky Napalm damage is added to Orb of Venom procs? Every damage instace that deals more than 36(radiance dmg after reduction) will get amplified. You could even buy a veil of discord, and cast it on the enemy, than radiance will get amplified | ||
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Yoshi-
Germany10227 Posts
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Kupon3ss
時の回廊10066 Posts
napalm proc'd off radiance when batrider first came out and it was one of the most hilarious things ever | ||
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Yoshi-
Germany10227 Posts
On March 06 2012 23:39 Kupon3ss wrote: well pretty sure radiance instance isn't a single instance of 40 a second so it still won't proc napalm proc'd off radiance when batrider first came out and it was one of the most hilarious things ever It is... Radiance + Sticky naplam + any damage amplification -> radiance will trigger naplam | ||
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noD
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dragonborn
4781 Posts
aL vs mouz - 15 minute for starting. CLG vs WW 2 hours 15 minute for starting. | ||
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