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tomwizz
Profile Joined October 2010
524 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-27 21:23:34
December 27 2012 21:19 GMT
#41
So what he is trying to say is

"After working for a few years we still have no idea how to make PvP work, So we give you a Dueling instead."

GG Diablo3 team.

And this game still doesn't have a custom chat channel, I don't think duel will be fun like D2.
reki-
Profile Joined July 2008
Netherlands327 Posts
December 27 2012 21:22 GMT
#42
What they don't want is a forum full of 14yo whiners that complain that pvp is imbalanced because they would have to balance pvp and that's not what they are intending to do.
>BD
DannyJ
Profile Joined March 2010
United States5110 Posts
December 27 2012 21:54 GMT
#43
I'm sure Blizzard will just delay it forever. There's nothing knew about waiting for Blizzard to do stuff, and if they do release it it will undoubtedly suck and be yet another bulletin point for peoples' lists of why D3 is terrible.
Ryps
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Romania2740 Posts
December 27 2012 21:54 GMT
#44
Why dont they just fire Jay Wilson, what happened to Blizzard ? they were amazing a few years ago.
RabidSeagull
Profile Joined December 2010
United States220 Posts
December 27 2012 21:56 GMT
#45
On December 28 2012 03:16 Kickboxer wrote:
In the list of top 10 most botched things of all time this game is somewhere between Napoleon's invasion of Russia and the Pepsi commercial that vaporized MJ's hair.

LOL. One of the funnier posts I've read on these forums, simple yet hilarious
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Praetorial
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States4241 Posts
December 27 2012 21:57 GMT
#46
On December 28 2012 03:39 Praetorial wrote:
I wrote a thread about it on Blizz forums

http://us.battle.net/d3/en/forum/topic/7415514923


O.o my thread exploded and is now hovering at the top of General Discussion.

And as to why they don't fire him - it's not a major concern since they've already made enough money off of the franchise, and he's not costing them anything but fans.
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Infernal_dream
Profile Joined September 2011
United States2359 Posts
December 27 2012 22:06 GMT
#47
On December 28 2012 06:22 reki- wrote:
What they don't want is a forum full of 14yo whiners that complain that pvp is imbalanced because they would have to balance pvp and that's not what they are intending to do.


No they dont. Did you ever pvp in d2? Shit was inbalanced as hell, and yet it still happened. They don't HAVE to do shit about the crybabies. Those will always exist, no matter what. There's no point in even trying to please them. You might as well please the rest of the playerbase by letting us whack the crap out of each other. Of course it's "mindless" it's fucking diablo. So is farming. I just want to go in 5v5 and spam buttons and die or get kills. Why is that so difficult to understand? It's ok if I go into mp10 and just spam buttons, but not against other players? What a backward ass thought process.
sob3k
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States7572 Posts
December 27 2012 22:25 GMT
#48
Just the release timeline of this game is breathtaking in its incompetence.

I honestly feel bad for every non-management designer and artist and programmer working on this project. If this is the kind of shit we see being released to the public it must be an absolute backstabbing nightmare clusterfuck of failure and politics on the internal side.

Regardless, the entire Diablo 3 team has been an unmitigated disaster and if Blizzard doesn't completely purge and reboot a huge portion of it then I would call that a good sign that the company is beyond saving.
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Lokian
Profile Joined March 2010
United States699 Posts
December 27 2012 22:28 GMT
#49
They can still implement a team death-match through dueling if 4v4 is so bad. 1v1 tag outs proleague style... its so simple.

The incentive to PVP should be betting, or even getting the other's entire gear. I think thats rewarding enough. Regarding balance, I think skills just needs to be scaled. The real imbalance come from the equipments, which was always like that in diablo 2. You don't need to balance that since those items can always get better.
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BeMannerDuPenner
Profile Blog Joined April 2004
Germany5638 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-27 22:35:39
December 27 2012 22:34 GMT
#50
On December 28 2012 06:22 reki- wrote:
What they don't want is a forum full of 14yo whiners that complain that pvp is imbalanced because they would have to balance pvp and that's not what they are intending to do.


bunch of 14yo whiners that would play they game. now you just get a bunch of pissed of XXyo guys that dont play the game.


its sad what a huge fail this is.if they atleast ONCE not insist on their stubborn ways they couldve just went with the d2 pvp model as a start from release. people happy having fun and maybe some leagues emerge that balance the game with rules.
that wouldve made lotsa people happy (and maybe less wouldve quit after the initial dissappointment of inferno with something else to do) and given them huge data on what people do,like and balance.


instead we have this clusterfuck. evryone is pissed off, we maybe get basic dueling soon that shoudlve been in from release and the years long promised pvp mode is benched cause after years and years they couldnt come up with anything.

in addition to that it seems like they are going to do some horde mode whatever pseudo multiplayer competition pve thing instead of basic pvp.


just meh. it always baffles me how devs totally ignore the roots of a game and refuse to learn from the past.



/edit mp&uber patch was good tho,just a bit late.
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Burrfoot
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United States1176 Posts
December 27 2012 22:36 GMT
#51
So they will borrow all the WoW PvP battlegrounds and fail miserably at balancing WSG, AB, AV, etc for D3.
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Davlok-1847/career
Tyree
Profile Joined November 2010
1508 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-27 22:40:14
December 27 2012 22:39 GMT
#52
The part that is depressing about this is not that they have done this or that there wont be any real meaty PvP but just duels that they surely could have added at launch.

What is depressing and sad is just how little i cared when i read this news, i am (or well..was) a huge Diablo and Blizzard fan, and they have botched this game so badly from the start that i dont even care about anything regarding the game.

I know, cool story bro etc, if they tomorrow said they accidentally deleted all our characters i would not even give it a shrug.

The *only* thing that would make me give a shit about this game and its inevitable expansion pack if they fired Jay Wilson and whoever has been responsible for how this game has been run into the ground. In 2010 they had a rune system, skill tree and PvP + Arenas, we are 3 years away soon from that and we have less.

Its not that firing Jay Wilson would make the game instantly better but at least it would offer a happy yet bitter ending to this goddamn nightmare that has been Diablo 3. I could finally close the book on it and just be happy that those who weren't qualified were at least removed from their position.

SC fans have no idea how lucky we are, the biggest complaint about Bowder we got is he likes rocks on maps and says terrible terrible damage. Whereas Wilson has done the unthinkable, forget about John Romero because Daikatana had no chance of ever being good, forget that fat guy who was responsible for Duke Nukem Forever because all Duke ever was, was a relic from the 1980s action movies in stale even at that point Doom clones.

Wilson did far worse than them, in his words, fuck that loser
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Big G
Profile Joined April 2011
Italy835 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-27 22:45:07
December 27 2012 22:43 GMT
#53
Eh, I sincerely hope that they put at least some work into this dueling. If it end up being somewhat enjoyable (like, with a proper set of rules for damage and CC, and maybe some reward) and at the same time they rebalance act I/II mob density I'll be happy regardless.

KiWiKaKi
Profile Joined February 2010
Canada691 Posts
December 27 2012 22:51 GMT
#54
fire jay wilson! hell yea sons
ur pro or ur noob , thats life
MasterCynical
Profile Joined September 2012
505 Posts
December 27 2012 23:01 GMT
#55
What a joke. They try to overpolish everything and it just ends up making things worse.
Dotq
Profile Joined March 2012
Norway235 Posts
December 27 2012 23:13 GMT
#56
In what other work would you not get fired for failing like this.....

If they couldnt see from the very beginning that powerfull gear / skills would make d3 pvp imba as fuck they are idiots.

As for incentive to play it??? LADDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDEEEERRRRRRRRRR
tomatriedes
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
New Zealand5356 Posts
December 27 2012 23:14 GMT
#57
For me I play Diablo for mindless PvE, don't really care about PvP one way or the other. They should have just had a hostile button from the start and been done with it like D2. Players can figure out how to make things fun without needing everything overly regulated.
Kergy
Profile Joined December 2010
Peru2011 Posts
December 27 2012 23:14 GMT
#58
Uninstalled.
Shelved my copy.
Called the cops.
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Serpico
Profile Joined May 2010
4285 Posts
December 27 2012 23:22 GMT
#59
On December 28 2012 03:48 Zozo wrote:
How can these people keep their jobs? We fire people over being late, let alone not working for 5 years.

They rode the wave of diablo 2 well enough to get people to buy D3 blindly.
Wuster
Profile Joined May 2011
1974 Posts
December 27 2012 23:48 GMT
#60
On December 28 2012 03:26 Chairman Ray wrote:
When PvP has been in development for this long, this kind of thing is completely unacceptable. An apology letter would have been appropriate a few months ago, but not this late. At this point, people have spend countless hours of time and even money so that they can gear up their character in anticipation of PvP.


Absolutely, *especially* since they delayed the PvP blog... and for what? To get our hopes up to crush them it looks like.

The dueling announcement is a total joke. They know it's not balanced but they're ok with giving it to us. The rest of the PvP features they aren''t giving us because it's not balanced...

If anything Dueling should have been available from Day 1 and that would have given them some insight into what was going to break PvP. Instead PvP is probably going to be part of the expansion at this rate and still be terrible.
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