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Mondeezy
Profile Joined August 2011
United States1938 Posts
June 22 2012 05:40 GMT
#1901
On June 22 2012 13:57 StUfF wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 22 2012 12:56 Mondeezy wrote:
No idea how you guys are hitting 80k+ w/o SS. I've farmed a decent amount, have 3-4 best in slot pieces, and every upgrade for me is at least 6-7mil at the lowest. Am I doing something wrong here? Only like 60k w/o SS

Thanks for the tips.


Posting your gear/stats would help.


Stats: [image loading]

Weapon: [image loading]
Running 2pc Natalya's(soon to be 3) and 2 pc Inna's set. 19% AS Quiver(Dead Man's Legacy)

Let me know if you need anything else.
LoL NA: Mondeezy - TL - Riven <3
S_SienZ
Profile Joined September 2011
1878 Posts
June 22 2012 05:59 GMT
#1902
On June 22 2012 14:40 Mondeezy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 22 2012 13:57 StUfF wrote:
On June 22 2012 12:56 Mondeezy wrote:
No idea how you guys are hitting 80k+ w/o SS. I've farmed a decent amount, have 3-4 best in slot pieces, and every upgrade for me is at least 6-7mil at the lowest. Am I doing something wrong here? Only like 60k w/o SS

Thanks for the tips.


Posting your gear/stats would help.


Stats: [image loading]

Weapon: [image loading]
Running 2pc Natalya's(soon to be 3) and 2 pc Inna's set. 19% AS Quiver(Dead Man's Legacy)

Let me know if you need anything else.

Rings, Amulet and Bracers would be helpful.

Rough picture: You need to work on more crit chance. Those 3 slots would probably be the causes.
Medrea
Profile Joined May 2011
10003 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-22 06:55:56
June 22 2012 06:54 GMT
#1903
Im trying Cluster bomb but so far I think its garbage. It can be hard to land a good salvo and learning exactly when to smokescreen the reflect damage is also hurting me since it does damage over a longer period of time. Im not some scrub who dies or chugs pots so Im gonna have to recommend Loaded for Bear over it.

I dunno Ill play with it a bit more. Its nice for bosses but thats about it.
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S_SienZ
Profile Joined September 2011
1878 Posts
June 22 2012 07:08 GMT
#1904
On June 22 2012 15:54 Medrea wrote:
Im trying Cluster bomb but so far I think its garbage. It can be hard to land a good salvo and learning exactly when to smokescreen the reflect damage is also hurting me since it does damage over a longer period of time. Im not some scrub who dies or chugs pots so Im gonna have to recommend Loaded for Bear over it.

I dunno Ill play with it a bit more. Its nice for bosses but thats about it.

It gets better. Tricky but took me about 3 butcher runs to get used to. The damage it deals when you land a perfect one is just insane and actually makes the game kinda fun the way certain skillshots do.
ktang
Profile Joined September 2010
United States196 Posts
June 22 2012 07:17 GMT
#1905
On June 22 2012 16:08 S_SienZ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 22 2012 15:54 Medrea wrote:
Im trying Cluster bomb but so far I think its garbage. It can be hard to land a good salvo and learning exactly when to smokescreen the reflect damage is also hurting me since it does damage over a longer period of time. Im not some scrub who dies or chugs pots so Im gonna have to recommend Loaded for Bear over it.

I dunno Ill play with it a bit more. Its nice for bosses but thats about it.

It gets better. Tricky but took me about 3 butcher runs to get used to. The damage it deals when you land a perfect one is just insane and actually makes the game kinda fun the way certain skillshots do.


I admit it does do really nice damage when it lands correctly, but it's a little too inconsistent. The range on it is too short and you would have to aim before the monster gets close to you cause the first bomb that drops is closest to you and it go goes in a straight line away from you. A little tricky to play with since the monster will always be running towards you so I noticed that the little bombs that lands far away never gets put to use at all.
ツ
Medrea
Profile Joined May 2011
10003 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-22 08:02:19
June 22 2012 07:47 GMT
#1906
Its just the damage duration is too long. Im killing myself with it no matter what and I just cant have that. Loss of money in my pocket. If they fix the duration or reflect damage then Ill return to it.

EDIT: The best thing about it is prob how easy it is to use. Just use it like Elemental arrow.
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TobZero
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Germany493 Posts
June 22 2012 10:21 GMT
#1907
On June 22 2012 16:47 Medrea wrote:
Its just the damage duration is too long. Im killing myself with it no matter what and I just cant have that. Loss of money in my pocket. If they fix the duration or reflect damage then Ill return to it.

EDIT: The best thing about it is prob how easy it is to use. Just use it like Elemental arrow.

i have shadowpower with gloom now in my spec and no proplem with the cluster and reflect dmg as gloom lasts twice as long as ss. especially for every reflect pack it makes your live so much easier but thats not the end. it even lets you survive a lot of melee shit where you are in a position that the 1.5 seconds ss arend enough to get you out of trouble!
-= we are the swarm =-
Schwopzi
Profile Joined August 2010
Netherlands954 Posts
June 22 2012 10:48 GMT
#1908
On June 22 2012 19:21 TobZero wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 22 2012 16:47 Medrea wrote:
Its just the damage duration is too long. Im killing myself with it no matter what and I just cant have that. Loss of money in my pocket. If they fix the duration or reflect damage then Ill return to it.

EDIT: The best thing about it is prob how easy it is to use. Just use it like Elemental arrow.

i have shadowpower with gloom now in my spec and no proplem with the cluster and reflect dmg as gloom lasts twice as long as ss. especially for every reflect pack it makes your live so much easier but thats not the end. it even lets you survive a lot of melee shit where you are in a position that the 1.5 seconds ss arend enough to get you out of trouble!

That's why I run +20 max disc & preparation. 12 second ss always enough! I absolutly loathe being hit in the small window between 2 smoke screens though.
Only the dead have seen the end of war
DhakhaR
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United Kingdom721 Posts
June 22 2012 11:10 GMT
#1909
Im at +16max disc but still have some problems vs reflect, what skills have you been running alongside gloom?
I've been using hungering, frost arrow, prep, SS, vault, cluster. Not sure what I'd give up for Gloom. I snagged a +750LoH plus 3%lifesteal crossbow that I switch to but that doesn't help.
nanospartan
Profile Joined July 2011
649 Posts
June 22 2012 11:16 GMT
#1910
Did they nerf ball lightning? I thought it was exactly the same minus the 3% lifesteal...
I was an athiest until I watched the Day[9] daily
DhakhaR
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United Kingdom721 Posts
June 22 2012 11:20 GMT
#1911
AFAIK ball lightning does less damage per hit every time it hits, but does have a bigger hit radius
Ricjames
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Czech Republic1047 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-22 12:24:10
June 22 2012 12:22 GMT
#1912
On June 22 2012 07:53 Medrea wrote:
54k without. 121k With.

270 percent crit damage. 25 percent base crit chance.

Gear is 4 piece natalyas for triple disc regen. And dex vit all resistance gear. 140 percent MF on top of all that.

So I am not glass cannon. I just have very high quality gear. But someone going glass cannon can do this as well until their gear catches up.


Hey Medrea, do you find the natalyas 4 piece set the most effective now? I have everything except ring and the cheapest crappy one cost 18M on AH. Damn i remember when i could have it for 3,5 and i was saving gold for the one that cost 7,5M at that time. Also do you have the cloak with max. disciple on it? Cause i think having a cloak (random rare) with discipline is very important, but can't really swap it for my natalya's cloak at the moment as i would lose my 7% crit. I already switched the boots, cause they are useless except 55 all resistance.
I really think the best combination would be Natalya set - helm with crit chance 4,5, cloak with max disciple, boots and ring at least average ones. Also when you have 4 piece, do you get 3 discipline per secong in total, cause that would be awesome.
Srry for mistakes or misformulation, i wrote it rather quickly.
Brood War is the best RTS that has ever been created.
serum321
Profile Joined January 2012
United States606 Posts
June 22 2012 12:46 GMT
#1913
I was afraid I wouldn't have the dps for the "korean" build, but after trying it out I'm still able to burst out a lot of damage. It is a lot of fun.
Oldfool
Profile Joined January 2011
Australia394 Posts
June 22 2012 13:17 GMT
#1914
Just dropped SS for cull of weak and put cold dmg bow on tri-shot scoundrel, seems pretty sweet so far since he essentially slows everything (as long as he doesnt die...)!
"The trouble with quotes on the internet is that it is difficult to discern whether or not they are genuine." - Abraham Lincoln
Curu
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada2817 Posts
June 22 2012 20:05 GMT
#1915
816 DPS 1h XBow with a bit of vit and life after kill for free if anyone wants it.
wat
zeross
Profile Joined September 2010
France310 Posts
June 22 2012 23:43 GMT
#1916
I'm a little confused.
The +6% holy damage from my stone of jordan isn't shown in my character tab ? so i must manualy do the math to know that even if it say -3k dps in reality it isn't true and i'll do more damage when i hit the mobs ?
It's kinda hard to check by actualy looking at the number as damage are pretty wide.

And is the +x% damage versus elite based on total damage like the +x% elemental damage ?
Medrea
Profile Joined May 2011
10003 Posts
June 23 2012 00:42 GMT
#1917
On June 22 2012 21:22 Ricjames wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 22 2012 07:53 Medrea wrote:
54k without. 121k With.

270 percent crit damage. 25 percent base crit chance.

Gear is 4 piece natalyas for triple disc regen. And dex vit all resistance gear. 140 percent MF on top of all that.

So I am not glass cannon. I just have very high quality gear. But someone going glass cannon can do this as well until their gear catches up.


Hey Medrea, do you find the natalyas 4 piece set the most effective now? I have everything except ring and the cheapest crappy one cost 18M on AH. Damn i remember when i could have it for 3,5 and i was saving gold for the one that cost 7,5M at that time. Also do you have the cloak with max. disciple on it? Cause i think having a cloak (random rare) with discipline is very important, but can't really swap it for my natalya's cloak at the moment as i would lose my 7% crit. I already switched the boots, cause they are useless except 55 all resistance.
I really think the best combination would be Natalya set - helm with crit chance 4,5, cloak with max disciple, boots and ring at least average ones. Also when you have 4 piece, do you get 3 discipline per secong in total, cause that would be awesome.
Srry for mistakes or misformulation, i wrote it rather quickly.


Yeah 4 piece is necessary. You don't have a choice as to which pieces you pick since the 5th is a weapon. If you want excellent 4 pieces you are going to have to pay a lot.

And yes you get 3 discipline per second total.
twitch.tv/medrea
S_SienZ
Profile Joined September 2011
1878 Posts
June 23 2012 01:19 GMT
#1918
On June 23 2012 08:43 zeross wrote:
I'm a little confused.
The +6% holy damage from my stone of jordan isn't shown in my character tab ? so i must manualy do the math to know that even if it say -3k dps in reality it isn't true and i'll do more damage when i hit the mobs ?
It's kinda hard to check by actualy looking at the number as damage are pretty wide.

And is the +x% damage versus elite based on total damage like the +x% elemental damage ?

Yes I believe. So is the +x % to Y skill.


Deshkar
Profile Joined June 2011
Singapore1244 Posts
June 23 2012 03:29 GMT
#1919
im totally loving the korean burst build, very fun and devastating. altho i must admit reflect dmg is one big pain in the ass since my dmg is a lot spikier . does anyone know much dmg is actually reflected from your dmg?
Okiesmokie
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada379 Posts
June 23 2012 05:37 GMT
#1920
On June 22 2012 06:49 Mondeezy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 22 2012 06:02 ktang wrote:
After the patch I notices that a lot more people are using hunger arrow with spray of teeth rune. What's the reason that people are using spray of teeth over devouring? Is it more effective combining that with frost arrow?


Because Athene said to --


I'm having a blast with the "Korean" build that was posted here yesterday -- thanks Mango. Just need to upgrade my gear, I'm only hitting 82k with sharpshooter(not using steady aim or archery though), but I feel as if I could be a lot higher, even though I have pretty decent stats. Just not sure what to upgrade I guess :/

Actually, Spray of Teeth has always been better for AoE damage. I'm not sure why people are switching to it now that Hungering Arrow is now used more as a single-target skill, though.
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