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Deshkar
Profile Joined June 2011
Singapore1244 Posts
June 22 2012 00:27 GMT
#1881
im having 87k dps without sharpshooter post patch. what's the norm for dps these days post patch? having great difficulty figuring out what to upgrade next within my budget >_<
i love the korean build but having issues killing reflect dmg. somehow feels alot more difficult in this build.
S_SienZ
Profile Joined September 2011
1878 Posts
June 22 2012 00:28 GMT
#1882
Guys. Is it normal to only be able to chain 3 cluster arrows? Already running Grenadier, kinda feel like I should cut out Spike trap for something less spammable like Fan of Knives as an anti-teleport / surround skill.
Mondeezy
Profile Joined August 2011
United States1938 Posts
June 22 2012 00:41 GMT
#1883
On June 22 2012 09:27 Deshkar wrote:
im having 87k dps without sharpshooter post patch. what's the norm for dps these days post patch? having great difficulty figuring out what to upgrade next within my budget >_<
i love the korean build but having issues killing reflect dmg. somehow feels alot more difficult in this build.


I have slightly less DPS than you(still get one shotted by my combo either way), but what I do is try to kite the group back into a doorway, lay down the 3 traps so they're relatively on top of each other, wait for them to step on it then smoke screen as they touch the traps, fan of knives 2x cluster bomb. Usually takes them to about 1/2 hp, then just rinse and repeat. This is assuming you crit(which you should with SS).


On June 22 2012 09:28 S_SienZ wrote:
Guys. Is it normal to only be able to chain 3 cluster arrows? Already running Grenadier, kinda feel like I should cut out Spike trap for something less spammable like Fan of Knives as an anti-teleport / surround skill.


Yes, that is normal.
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Deshkar
Profile Joined June 2011
Singapore1244 Posts
June 22 2012 01:23 GMT
#1884
+ Show Spoiler +
On June 22 2012 09:41 Mondeezy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 22 2012 09:27 Deshkar wrote:
im having 87k dps without sharpshooter post patch. what's the norm for dps these days post patch? having great difficulty figuring out what to upgrade next within my budget >_<
i love the korean build but having issues killing reflect dmg. somehow feels alot more difficult in this build.


I have slightly less DPS than you(still get one shotted by my combo either way), but what I do is try to kite the group back into a doorway, lay down the 3 traps so they're relatively on top of each other, wait for them to step on it then smoke screen as they touch the traps, fan of knives 2x cluster bomb. Usually takes them to about 1/2 hp, then just rinse and repeat. This is assuming you crit(which you should with SS).

.



yup thats what im doing. jus that most of the time only the first mob gets hit and no one else -.- running the old nt/hungering i had used 2x 1h xbows with combined 1600 loh. that is insufficient due to the huge crits, wonder if it's impossible to rely on loh to not worry so much about reflect still
Medrea
Profile Joined May 2011
10003 Posts
June 22 2012 01:42 GMT
#1885
Found a bug with the evasive roll. If you smokescreen while the animation is playing out the effect wont take hold until you land.
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oneofthem
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
June 22 2012 01:59 GMT
#1886
the korean build doesn't play nice with hand xbows because of the huge damage variance. i found out the hard way
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Medrea
Profile Joined May 2011
10003 Posts
June 22 2012 02:01 GMT
#1887
Yeah. i was just about to drop 30 million on hand crossbows, but it looks like I wont be.
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S_SienZ
Profile Joined September 2011
1878 Posts
June 22 2012 02:06 GMT
#1888
Think hand xbows play better into the Gloom tank turret mode style given their fast attack speed and stuff.
Schwopzi
Profile Joined August 2010
Netherlands954 Posts
June 22 2012 02:19 GMT
#1889
On June 22 2012 09:27 Deshkar wrote:
im having 87k dps without sharpshooter post patch. what's the norm for dps these days post patch? having great difficulty figuring out what to upgrade next within my budget >_<
i love the korean build but having issues killing reflect dmg. somehow feels alot more difficult in this build.


I have a 700 dps xbow, a amulet & 2 rings with only life on hit for reflect packs with this build. It drops my dps by a shitton to like 25k but then you find out you can clear packs just fine even with shitty dips if you play the build right. Still gotta smokescreen those spiketraps etc though.
Only the dead have seen the end of war
Deshkar
Profile Joined June 2011
Singapore1244 Posts
June 22 2012 02:25 GMT
#1890
should i always dump all my gold+sale of current wep to aimfor wep upgrades or divide it amongst item pieces. at at least 50+ mill for an upgrade for weapons. kinda painful to deplete my entire savings.
padfoota
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Taiwan1571 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-22 02:32:50
June 22 2012 02:31 GMT
#1891
On June 22 2012 11:06 S_SienZ wrote:
Think hand xbows play better into the Gloom tank turret mode style given their fast attack speed and stuff.


Hand crossbow + life on hit = god. Especially against reflect damage mobs. You hit a lower per hit, meaning reflect is smaller, and LoH can take care of the rest.

High crit, high attack speed along with that discipline on crit passive, meaning you can spam smoke screen, gloom, covering fire and caltrops quite nicely.
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Deshkar
Profile Joined June 2011
Singapore1244 Posts
June 22 2012 02:33 GMT
#1892
+ Show Spoiler +
On June 22 2012 11:19 Schwopzi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 22 2012 09:27 Deshkar wrote:
im having 87k dps without sharpshooter post patch. what's the norm for dps these days post patch? having great difficulty figuring out what to upgrade next within my budget >_<
i love the korean build but having issues killing reflect dmg. somehow feels alot more difficult in this build.


I have a 700 dps xbow, a amulet & 2 rings with only life on hit for reflect packs with this build. It drops my dps by a shitton to like 25k but then you find out you can clear packs just fine even with shitty dips if you play the build right. Still gotta smokescreen those spiketraps etc though.


yeah i have 2 1h that nets me 1600 loh at 37k dps. still got owned just by evasive fire-.- my 41% crit chance 300% crit dmg hurts. zzz gotta lower dps or up loh alot more
ktang
Profile Joined September 2010
United States196 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-22 02:50:10
June 22 2012 02:47 GMT
#1893
On June 22 2012 06:49 Mondeezy wrote:
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On June 22 2012 06:02 ktang wrote:
After the patch I notices that a lot more people are using hunger arrow with spray of teeth rune. What's the reason that people are using spray of teeth over devouring? Is it more effective combining that with frost arrow?


Because Athene said to --


I'm having a blast with the "Korean" build that was posted here yesterday -- thanks Mango. Just need to upgrade my gear, I'm only hitting 82k with sharpshooter(not using steady aim or archery though), but I feel as if I could be a lot higher, even though I have pretty decent stats. Just not sure what to upgrade I guess :/


someone explain this to me, wouldn't devouring arrow still do more damage and more consistent since your chance to pierce is always 35% compare to to spray of teeth which only does 50% more damage once a critical hit is taken into effect which varies from your critical hit chance and also waiting for the sharpshooter to gain over time.

And also why would he use cluster bomb which only deals 230% damage compare to lets say loaded for bear which does 290% damage?

Educate me please, I'm confused and need your help! Thanks.
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Highways
Profile Joined July 2005
Australia6106 Posts
June 22 2012 02:47 GMT
#1894
On June 22 2012 10:59 oneofthem wrote:
the korean build doesn't play nice with hand xbows because of the huge damage variance. i found out the hard way

What's the difference between hand xbows and 2 handers?
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Blitzkrieg0
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States13132 Posts
June 22 2012 02:50 GMT
#1895
On June 22 2012 11:47 Highways wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 22 2012 10:59 oneofthem wrote:
the korean build doesn't play nice with hand xbows because of the huge damage variance. i found out the hard way

What's the difference between hand xbows and 2 handers?


The difference between the max and min damage. Xbows are about 100 apart while hand crossbows are about 200 apart.
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wintergt
Profile Joined February 2010
Belgium1335 Posts
June 22 2012 03:15 GMT
#1896
On June 22 2012 11:47 ktang wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 22 2012 06:49 Mondeezy wrote:
On June 22 2012 06:02 ktang wrote:
After the patch I notices that a lot more people are using hunger arrow with spray of teeth rune. What's the reason that people are using spray of teeth over devouring? Is it more effective combining that with frost arrow?


Because Athene said to -- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NV-iuRMTr3Y&feature=g-u-u

I'm having a blast with the "Korean" build that was posted here yesterday -- thanks Mango. Just need to upgrade my gear, I'm only hitting 82k with sharpshooter(not using steady aim or archery though), but I feel as if I could be a lot higher, even though I have pretty decent stats. Just not sure what to upgrade I guess :/


someone explain this to me, wouldn't devouring arrow still do more damage and more consistent since your chance to pierce is always 35% compare to to spray of teeth which only does 50% more damage once a critical hit is taken into effect which varies from your critical hit chance and also waiting for the sharpshooter to gain over time.

And also why would he use cluster bomb which only deals 230% damage compare to lets say loaded for bear which does 290% damage?

Educate me please, I'm confused and need your help! Thanks.

I used this build today and I liked it. Spray when it crits will aoe, which is extra dmg on the same mob, and cluster bomb you can see that it will often hit the same mob multiple times with the clusters if they are close enough. You can see with his gear he just chains invulnerability and just nukes a boss with the clusters.With lesser gear (like mine) you can vary the skills more to your needs ofcourse.
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S_SienZ
Profile Joined September 2011
1878 Posts
June 22 2012 03:29 GMT
#1897
On June 22 2012 11:33 Deshkar wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
On June 22 2012 11:19 Schwopzi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 22 2012 09:27 Deshkar wrote:
im having 87k dps without sharpshooter post patch. what's the norm for dps these days post patch? having great difficulty figuring out what to upgrade next within my budget >_<
i love the korean build but having issues killing reflect dmg. somehow feels alot more difficult in this build.


I have a 700 dps xbow, a amulet & 2 rings with only life on hit for reflect packs with this build. It drops my dps by a shitton to like 25k but then you find out you can clear packs just fine even with shitty dips if you play the build right. Still gotta smokescreen those spiketraps etc though.


yeah i have 2 1h that nets me 1600 loh at 37k dps. still got owned just by evasive fire-.- my 41% crit chance 300% crit dmg hurts. zzz gotta lower dps or up loh alot more

Were you using Gloom?
ShaLLoW[baY]
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada12499 Posts
June 22 2012 03:54 GMT
#1898
On June 22 2012 11:47 ktang wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 22 2012 06:49 Mondeezy wrote:
On June 22 2012 06:02 ktang wrote:
After the patch I notices that a lot more people are using hunger arrow with spray of teeth rune. What's the reason that people are using spray of teeth over devouring? Is it more effective combining that with frost arrow?


Because Athene said to -- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NV-iuRMTr3Y&feature=g-u-u

I'm having a blast with the "Korean" build that was posted here yesterday -- thanks Mango. Just need to upgrade my gear, I'm only hitting 82k with sharpshooter(not using steady aim or archery though), but I feel as if I could be a lot higher, even though I have pretty decent stats. Just not sure what to upgrade I guess :/


And also why would he use cluster bomb which only deals 230% damage compare to lets say loaded for bear which does 290% damage?

Educate me please, I'm confused and need your help! Thanks.


if one bomb crits, they all crit, and a target can be hit by more than one bomb. I've done 800k damage with a single shot before on some elites.
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Mondeezy
Profile Joined August 2011
United States1938 Posts
June 22 2012 03:56 GMT
#1899
No idea how you guys are hitting 80k+ w/o SS. I've farmed a decent amount, have 3-4 best in slot pieces, and every upgrade for me is at least 6-7mil at the lowest. Am I doing something wrong here? Only like 60k w/o SS

Thanks for the tips.
LoL NA: Mondeezy - TL - Riven <3
StUfF
Profile Joined September 2010
Australia1437 Posts
June 22 2012 04:57 GMT
#1900
On June 22 2012 12:56 Mondeezy wrote:
No idea how you guys are hitting 80k+ w/o SS. I've farmed a decent amount, have 3-4 best in slot pieces, and every upgrade for me is at least 6-7mil at the lowest. Am I doing something wrong here? Only like 60k w/o SS

Thanks for the tips.


Posting your gear/stats would help.
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