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LaiShin
Profile Joined November 2005
Australia978 Posts
June 21 2012 07:10 GMT
#1841
On June 21 2012 14:37 mtn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 21 2012 01:50 TheMango wrote:
so a friend linked me this video couple days ago, pre 1.03 patch of this korean DH on the asia server not using nether at all. He does azmo runs in ~15 mins, which is about same as me and I have 2x his dps. This build should still be viable now. (he didnt have sick gear/dps - only 56k dps with sharpshooter)

http://www.inven.co.kr/board/powerbbs.php?come_idx=2731&l=930 - for more indepth info



Holy shiet... This is the best thing i ever saw.


Really smart build. I like it alot.
Lobotomist
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1541 Posts
June 21 2012 07:45 GMT
#1842
On June 21 2012 16:10 LaiShin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 21 2012 14:37 mtn wrote:
On June 21 2012 01:50 TheMango wrote:
so a friend linked me this video couple days ago, pre 1.03 patch of this korean DH on the asia server not using nether at all. He does azmo runs in ~15 mins, which is about same as me and I have 2x his dps. This build should still be viable now. (he didnt have sick gear/dps - only 56k dps with sharpshooter)

http://www.inven.co.kr/board/powerbbs.php?come_idx=2731&l=930 - for more indepth info

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X9rr-kD_i-4


Holy shiet... This is the best thing i ever saw.


Really smart build. I like it alot.
Why would you take both cluster arrow and fan of knives? Just because you can? The slow?
Teching to hive too quickly isn't just a risk: it's an ultrarisk
Oldfool
Profile Joined January 2011
Australia394 Posts
June 21 2012 08:12 GMT
#1843
On June 21 2012 16:45 Lobotomist wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 21 2012 16:10 LaiShin wrote:
On June 21 2012 14:37 mtn wrote:
On June 21 2012 01:50 TheMango wrote:
so a friend linked me this video couple days ago, pre 1.03 patch of this korean DH on the asia server not using nether at all. He does azmo runs in ~15 mins, which is about same as me and I have 2x his dps. This build should still be viable now. (he didnt have sick gear/dps - only 56k dps with sharpshooter)

http://www.inven.co.kr/board/powerbbs.php?come_idx=2731&l=930 - for more indepth info

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X9rr-kD_i-4


Holy shiet... This is the best thing i ever saw.


Really smart build. I like it alot.
Why would you take both cluster arrow and fan of knives? Just because you can? The slow?

Fan of knives does a lot of aoe damage and is instant, you can consequently fit 2 cluster arrow and a fan of knives into the 1 second 100% crit window - which you time such that the mob hits the spike traps within the interval also.
"The trouble with quotes on the internet is that it is difficult to discern whether or not they are genuine." - Abraham Lincoln
S_SienZ
Profile Joined September 2011
1878 Posts
June 21 2012 08:35 GMT
#1844
Tried out the Korean build. Not feeling the Cluster Arrow.

Seem to have much weaker DPS in single target boss situations. Any ideas for a skill to replace Cluster?

I'm never hatred starved so Bat's not needed, might try other companions. Currently running Caltrops [Bait the trap] for 10% CC. Considering other Caltrop variants, Rain of Vengeance, Strafe as well as Guardian Turret.
TheMango
Profile Joined April 2007
United States1967 Posts
June 21 2012 08:38 GMT
#1845
On June 21 2012 17:35 S_SienZ wrote:
Tried out the Korean build. Not feeling the Cluster Arrow.

Seem to have much weaker DPS in single target boss situations. Any ideas for a skill to replace Cluster?

I'm never hatred starved so Bat's not needed, might try other companions. Currently running Caltrops [Bait the trap] for 10% CC. Considering other Caltrop variants, Rain of Vengeance, Strafe as well as Guardian Turret.


I run cluster arrow as my main right click, and its the only skill so far that can kill azmo during my runs as fast as nether did. Also, guardian turret is pretty terrible - its a stationary small radius protection bubble - you're a demon hunter that is kiting all over the place. Strafe is pretty bad too (slows your movement speed from what i tested)
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Kreb
Profile Joined September 2010
4834 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-21 09:16:01
June 21 2012 09:12 GMT
#1846
On June 21 2012 01:50 TheMango wrote:
so a friend linked me this video couple days ago, pre 1.03 patch of this korean DH on the asia server not using nether at all. He does azmo runs in ~15 mins, which is about same as me and I have 2x his dps. This build should still be viable now. (he didnt have sick gear/dps - only 56k dps with sharpshooter)

http://www.inven.co.kr/board/powerbbs.php?come_idx=2731&l=930 - for more indepth info

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X9rr-kD_i-4

O.o

I dont know where it says 56k with sharp, but it takes about 5sec of watching that video to realize its very far from the truth. Upon watching again he even shows it being 78k without andariels on (why doesnt he wear a helm at start?), which should put it up to like what, 85-90k something with? And given the numbers hes doing, I'm very much inclined to believe its 85-90 without sharp, comparing to my own 70 without sharp.

With that damage gear he could use about any out of a good 10 different abilities to stream through content. Hell, all the hassles with traps seems to be completely unnecessary when he could probably just pick up frost arrow, dual chakrams or something similar standard and hold right click and watch stuff die without having to run around that much. The downtimes between his burst windows are very notable (but of course not what you'll remeber after having watched it). Granted, if you prefer tricky playstyles this might be something for you, but I can in no way believe this to be effective. Eye pleasening with stuff blowing up in 2sec maybe, but not effective. And if you want tricky playstyles with granades and bombs there plenty of funky builds out there to use.
ZerG~LegenD
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Sweden1179 Posts
June 21 2012 09:24 GMT
#1847
Does Evasive Fire with tripple shot rune hit Asmodean thrice?
Even a broken clock is right twice a day
TheMango
Profile Joined April 2007
United States1967 Posts
June 21 2012 09:48 GMT
#1848
On June 21 2012 18:12 Kreb wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 21 2012 01:50 TheMango wrote:
so a friend linked me this video couple days ago, pre 1.03 patch of this korean DH on the asia server not using nether at all. He does azmo runs in ~15 mins, which is about same as me and I have 2x his dps. This build should still be viable now. (he didnt have sick gear/dps - only 56k dps with sharpshooter)

http://www.inven.co.kr/board/powerbbs.php?come_idx=2731&l=930 - for more indepth info

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X9rr-kD_i-4

O.o

I dont know where it says 56k with sharp, but it takes about 5sec of watching that video to realize its very far from the truth. Upon watching again he even shows it being 78k without andariels on (why doesnt he wear a helm at start?), which should put it up to like what, 85-90k something with? And given the numbers hes doing, I'm very much inclined to believe its 85-90 without sharp, comparing to my own 70 without sharp.

With that damage gear he could use about any out of a good 10 different abilities to stream through content. Hell, all the hassles with traps seems to be completely unnecessary when he could probably just pick up frost arrow, dual chakrams or something similar standard and hold right click and watch stuff die without having to run around that much. The downtimes between his burst windows are very notable (but of course not what you'll remeber after having watched it). Granted, if you prefer tricky playstyles this might be something for you, but I can in no way believe this to be effective. Eye pleasening with stuff blowing up in 2sec maybe, but not effective. And if you want tricky playstyles with granades and bombs there plenty of funky builds out there to use.


hmm, I got that number from the link, he has a screen shot of his character page. Looked at the beginning of the video again and looks like you're right. Still looks like a fun build though :p
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S_SienZ
Profile Joined September 2011
1878 Posts
June 21 2012 09:53 GMT
#1849
On June 21 2012 17:38 TheMango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 21 2012 17:35 S_SienZ wrote:
Tried out the Korean build. Not feeling the Cluster Arrow.

Seem to have much weaker DPS in single target boss situations. Any ideas for a skill to replace Cluster?

I'm never hatred starved so Bat's not needed, might try other companions. Currently running Caltrops [Bait the trap] for 10% CC. Considering other Caltrop variants, Rain of Vengeance, Strafe as well as Guardian Turret.


I run cluster arrow as my main right click, and its the only skill so far that can kill azmo during my runs as fast as nether did. Also, guardian turret is pretty terrible - its a stationary small radius protection bubble - you're a demon hunter that is kiting all over the place. Strafe is pretty bad too (slows your movement speed from what i tested)

True. Only reason I threw in Guardian in there was coz I used to run a facetank build with Gloom SP. Now that I'm not and am running Steady Aim it's probably a bad idea.

Update on my progress: HOLY CRAP Bait the Trap Caltrops is AWESOME with Evasive Covering Fire.
whoso
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany523 Posts
June 21 2012 10:27 GMT
#1850
On June 21 2012 09:48 justiceknight wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 21 2012 09:46 TheMango wrote:
On June 21 2012 06:11 whoso wrote:
so id like to give a nonglasscannon style a shot in this patch. are there any benchmarks for defensive values for taking hits in a2/3/4? atm im sitting at 16k life 2,1k armor and 80-144 resis which is obviously still not enough to survive most hits a2+.


There is a streamer on twitch that has 96k dps w/o sharpshooter, 45k hp, and like 5-6k armor / 5-600 all resists or something ridiculous. Even with all that, he cant exactly tank elites, but he can take a few hits here and there.

http://www.twitch.tv/nugiyen (his gear: http://i.imgur.com/Dj98D.jpg)



is it still safe to say that no matter how tanky DH is now,DH can never tank in inferno regardless of how good the defensive gears are?


hm well i guess there is a huge difference between being oneshot and being 2/3-shot, so id say im fine with surviving at least a single hit most of the time, for anything else there is smokescreen.
yummi
Profile Joined August 2010
Poland48 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-21 10:34:35
June 21 2012 10:27 GMT
#1851
On June 21 2012 18:24 ZerG~LegenD wrote:
Does Evasive Fire with tripple shot rune hit Asmodean thrice?

Nope. One target = one hit. You can't hit one target multiply times with this skill.

After nether tentacles and speed attack nerf i was almost done with my DH, but then i saw that crazy korean build video. I tried it and it's feels good. I have to change some of my gear to fully commit to this build but damn it's so fun. I was playing with nether tentacles whole time, it's fun to see there's more doable builds on inferno.

Does anyone have similar links, ideas, videos with crazy builds?
Assault_1
Profile Joined April 2009
Canada1950 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-21 13:12:09
June 21 2012 13:11 GMT
#1852
why dont people just use frost arrow? I tried it last night and it seems just as good as nether. It goes fast so it never misses, and also slows
I'm not so sure about devouring/hungering arrow though, seems the frost aoe arrow does just as much damage to single target.. any alternative?
Toadily
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States837 Posts
June 21 2012 13:15 GMT
#1853
nether never misses if you're kiting them down a path, frost misses a lot due to misclicks when you're constantly attack moving due to the small hit radius

it's also not aoe, sure it splits but a lot of the time it just doesn't hit anything to the side behind the main target
Sated
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
England4983 Posts
June 21 2012 13:37 GMT
#1854
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edw123
Profile Joined July 2011
37 Posts
June 21 2012 15:08 GMT
#1855
I am gearing for act 3 inferno and planning to upgrade my weapon, anyone can advise me how to choose a good weapon (my budget is around 3 mil)

My current weapon has 853.1 dps, crit damage +91%
Just looking at dps is enough? Or I need to check base damage also (min - max damage)?
coopes
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States144 Posts
June 21 2012 15:16 GMT
#1856
On June 22 2012 00:08 edw123 wrote:
I am gearing for act 3 inferno and planning to upgrade my weapon, anyone can advise me how to choose a good weapon (my budget is around 3 mil)

My current weapon has 853.1 dps, crit damage +91%
Just looking at dps is enough? Or I need to check base damage also (min - max damage)?


Try to get the highest top end (8xx-11xx) ideally and look for a socket FOR SURE. You want a pretty high top end bot with a socket for crit dmg, besides that every stat is just extra
edw123
Profile Joined July 2011
37 Posts
June 21 2012 15:23 GMT
#1857
On June 22 2012 00:16 coopes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 22 2012 00:08 edw123 wrote:
I am gearing for act 3 inferno and planning to upgrade my weapon, anyone can advise me how to choose a good weapon (my budget is around 3 mil)

My current weapon has 853.1 dps, crit damage +91%
Just looking at dps is enough? Or I need to check base damage also (min - max damage)?


Try to get the highest top end (8xx-11xx) ideally and look for a socket FOR SURE. You want a pretty high top end bot with a socket for crit dmg, besides that every stat is just extra


(8xx - 11xx) = weapon base damage?
Blitzkrieg0
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States13132 Posts
June 21 2012 15:24 GMT
#1858
On June 22 2012 00:23 edw123 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 22 2012 00:16 coopes wrote:
On June 22 2012 00:08 edw123 wrote:
I am gearing for act 3 inferno and planning to upgrade my weapon, anyone can advise me how to choose a good weapon (my budget is around 3 mil)

My current weapon has 853.1 dps, crit damage +91%
Just looking at dps is enough? Or I need to check base damage also (min - max damage)?


Try to get the highest top end (8xx-11xx) ideally and look for a socket FOR SURE. You want a pretty high top end bot with a socket for crit dmg, besides that every stat is just extra


(8xx - 11xx) = weapon base damage?


That would be dps.
I'll always be your shadow and veil your eyes from states of ain soph aur.
andrewlt
Profile Joined August 2009
United States7702 Posts
June 21 2012 15:25 GMT
#1859
Get a spreadsheet. Look at the highest dps available with or without a socket for the same price. See which is better after putting the highest green gem you can afford or soon afford.
edw123
Profile Joined July 2011
37 Posts
June 21 2012 15:29 GMT
#1860
Thanks guys for the help, i got this in the end for 1 mil:

dps 963.7 (fire element)
+50 str
+119 vit
+96% crit damage

I think it's quite a good deal , leave my money for next upgrade
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