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iTzSnypah
United States1738 Posts
With Danetta's Spite you get +170-200 Dex and 9-10 Discipline. With Calamity you get +10-11% IAS, hatred regen and 20-50% chance of marked for death (+12%Dmg). Gah! I can't decide which is better. I'm leaning toward Danetta's spite being slightly better. | ||
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iTzSnypah
United States1738 Posts
I'm currently sitting at 97.5k DPS and I can't find an upgrade that puts me at or over 100k DPS that: is in my budget (~400k) doesn't drop my eHP under 200k (I'm at 217.7k atm) http://d3up.com/b/487094 http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/itzsnypah-1696/hero/32228860 Any ideas? Or am I just have to wait until I have more gold? | ||
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zuqbu
Germany797 Posts
On April 08 2013 03:39 iTzSnypah wrote: I need help! I'm currently sitting at 97.5k DPS and I can't find an upgrade that puts me at or over 100k DPS that: is in my budget (~400k) doesn't drop my eHP under 200k (I'm at 217.7k atm) http://d3up.com/b/487094 http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/itzsnypah-1696/hero/32228860 Any ideas? Or am I just have to wait until I have more gold? damn, if you would be on EU i could gift you something. look for nat's sight with ~150 dex and more vit. they shouldn't be too expensive. | ||
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Freezard
Sweden1011 Posts
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iTzSnypah
United States1738 Posts
On April 08 2013 10:56 Freezard wrote: Swap out your nats ring for a cc cd dex rare ring then swap out your boots for nats boots 170+ dex. Should net you a bigger EHP/DPS as well as movement speed. Nats boots will be ~500k now and then so you'll have to farm a bit more gold but this would benefit you the most. Nice amu btw compared to the rest of your items, self found? I sniped it for 450k. | ||
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Freezard
Sweden1011 Posts
With the new hatred cost, I believe it should be possible to actually generate hatred with Rapid Fire and Marked for Death for Manticore users with a somewhat low APS. At the same time, it's doing much higher damage than before, which is pretty huge since it was already possibly the highest single target DPS skill. It would also obsolete all the hatred generator skills, and probably make it possible to free up the Bat Companion slot as well. Finally, with Perfectionist, Rapid Fire would yield a lot of Discipline as well, especially with a cc% Dead Man's Legacy/SoJ/Mara's. It's easy to swap out DML whenever you're going to use Rapid Fire (elites), and just keep another one on for Ball of Lightning vs mobs. Somehow I feel that with this change, Blizzard just made Rapid Fire obligatory for all DHs that use Manticore. It might just be that strong if it really allows for infinite hatred, Disintegrate/Ray of Frost style. Anyway, since I've tried this build before and always been using Marked for Death in co-op games, I will go for it in 1.08 for sure. | ||
digmouse
China6329 Posts
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Freezard
Sweden1011 Posts
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digmouse
China6329 Posts
On May 10 2013 01:14 Freezard wrote: I replaced my hatred generator with Rapid Fire. I even GAIN hatred from using it, so why not. As I mentioned above, it also works really well with Perfectionist. I'm using Preparation with hatred refill but honestly I can probably swap it out because I rarely ever run out of hatred/discipline. I was standing in the middle of tons of plague/desecrator with perma Gloom and rapid fire on MP10 while barbs were just standing in safety watching. It crits for 300k+, it's just crazy. The downside? It's still a single target skill and Ball of Lightning simply does not do enough damage compared to other classes' AoE skills. Plus it's a pain swapping out RF/BoL quivers all the time and you can't Gloom in the middle of RF cause it won't life steal then. I've been trying your no-generator build as well, I went MoD and Preparation with Hatred restore, it works amazing, still needs time to get use to the style but I really like it. The only problem is I sometimes have problems in longer fights such as against Extra Health, Frozen or Arcane Enchanted (need to move) due to low disc (38 atm). I'm farming MP6 with 200K DPS w/ Archery and 470 AR, do I need to get a disc piece? | ||
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WolfintheSheep
Canada14127 Posts
On May 10 2013 01:14 Freezard wrote: I replaced my hatred generator with Rapid Fire. I even GAIN hatred from using it, so why not. As I mentioned above, it also works really well with Perfectionist. I'm using Preparation with hatred refill but honestly I can probably swap it out because I rarely ever run out of hatred/discipline. I was standing in the middle of tons of plague/desecrator with perma Gloom and rapid fire on MP10 while barbs were just standing in safety watching. It crits for 300k+, it's just crazy. The downside? It's still a single target skill and Ball of Lightning simply does not do enough damage compared to other classes' AoE skills. Plus it's a pain swapping out RF/BoL quivers all the time and you can't Gloom in the middle of RF cause it won't life steal then. I'm assuming you mean Nightstalker and not Perfectionist. I don't see how +10% Life, Armor, Health and -10% Disc cost effects Rapid Fire. | ||
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Freezard
Sweden1011 Posts
 digmouse: Hmm I don't have a problem with that. I have a SoJ with 10 disc and 60% cc, Nighstalker procs more than enough with that. Just try to get close to the elites and don't move too much, take Gloom when in arcane and stuff it will easily keep you at full health. That's the good thing, you can act as a tank as well I have 460 AR, 65k life, 250k DPS, 1.72 APS. Oh btw I'm using the reduced hatred start up rune, but pretty sure I don't have to. | ||
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TheRabidDeer
United States3806 Posts
I need to swap out my gear I think as I was stacking crit/IAS before (with some CD), but how are you generating hatred from rapid fire? | ||
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Freezard
Sweden1011 Posts
I've been running MP10 Fields of Misery + dungeons, it's sick for DHs with this build cause you can perma Gloom and just gather all enemies so they bunch up. Then when you got 5 stacks you go to Decaying Crypts if it spawned, I swear that place has the highest mob density in the game right now, my god. Finally a good place for DHs to farm on high MP. TheRabidDeer: I've done a video Against the first elite I use Marked For Death and generate hatred, against the second I don't use it and lose hatred VERY slowly. But with Preparation you'll never run out of it as long as you proc enough discipline with Nighstalker... but it's kinda random. As you can see all I do is the RF/Gloom bug for the life steal, and if I see the health go down a lot I take Gloom for safety. | ||
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digmouse
China6329 Posts
On May 10 2013 09:25 Freezard wrote: Yeah, I meant Nightstalker digmouse: Hmm I don't have a problem with that. I have a SoJ with 10 disc and 60% cc, Nighstalker procs more than enough with that. Just try to get close to the elites and don't move too much, take Gloom when in arcane and stuff it will easily keep you at full health. That's the good thing, you can act as a tank as well I have 460 AR, 65k life, 250k DPS, 1.72 APS. Oh btw I'm using the reduced hatred start up rune, but pretty sure I don't have to.Yea I think I need to swap out my ring for a SoJ for more disc or change Inna chest for a natalya, but I haven't figured out a way to upgrade my gear. http://d3up.com/b/603872 this is what I look like and I'm farming MP6-7 quite well, what should I upgrade if I want to go to MP8 or even higher? | ||
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Freezard
Sweden1011 Posts
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iTzSnypah
United States1738 Posts
On May 10 2013 17:38 digmouse wrote: Yea I think I need to swap out my ring for a SoJ for more disc or change Inna chest for a natalya, but I haven't figured out a way to upgrade my gear. http://d3up.com/b/603872 this is what I look like and I'm farming MP6-7 quite well, what should I upgrade if I want to go to MP8 or even higher? Your armor is ugly low. I would say get: +Armor on The Witching Hour, is very cheap to add +armor Strongarm Bracers with +AR, you lose 1.5cc however gain Armor, +life% and 20or so dex. 240+ Dex, 75+ AR 60+ Vit Vile Ward. Yours are junk. This is preference but, 9IAS, 300+armor Mempo. That 1IAS difference will more than make up for the ~40dex loss. You can use my gear for reference. http://d3up.com/b/584586/snipe Edit: or just use Perfectionist lol. | ||
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Sagamantha
United States339 Posts
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iTzSnypah
United States1738 Posts
Edit: Damn entry level legendaries are expensive lol. Oh well 2m can't do shit for me. | ||
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WolfintheSheep
Canada14127 Posts
- Vortex breaks channeling. - Waller wastes Hatred without dealing any damage. - Knockback breaks channeling. Including normal enemies like Grotesques. - Frozen makes you move. - Fire Chains, Plagued, Desolator and Molten make you move or tank more damage than a melee ever has to. - You can't dodge normal power attacks without breaking RF...meaning Berserkers, Bulls, Executioners, etc. Which is a shame, because it's easily the best source of damage a DH has right now. It just makes you the most immobile and most melee class in the game. | ||
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Freezard
Sweden1011 Posts
As for vortex/waller/frozen, yeah you have to move but that's true for every other skill as well. I suppose you could use Smoke Screen vs frozen and keep the channeling going. The shittiest thing when I play with others is that I still end up tanking everything cause enemies just attack me even when I'm far away, so it's hard to use Steady Aim with RF. People have been using Smoke Screen to remove aggro though so maybe I should give it a try. | ||
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