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hunts
Profile Joined September 2010
United States2113 Posts
August 29 2013 04:18 GMT
#3821
I tried playing a DH alt after just coming back to the game, I tried that rapid fire build I see so many people using now, but it really feels like thats for multiplayer where there are other people, I just can't survive to stand still and use it, do people use it for single player inferno farming? Or is something else like multishot or cluster arrow better?
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RagequitBM
Profile Joined November 2011
Canada2270 Posts
September 03 2013 23:01 GMT
#3822
Haven't played in a while. Is crit chance/Crit damage stacking still the strongest? And if I want to use a bow, would that still be viable? I love the look of bows much more than crossbows, so that's why I want to use them.
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Srontgorrth
Profile Joined August 2012
United States204 Posts
September 04 2013 07:04 GMT
#3823
i don't think multishot is any good. i used to use cluster arrow and that was decent. haven't messed around with rapid fire much. now i use elemental arrow - ball lightning, it works pretty well. helps that i have a beast quiver with elemental bonus.
ragequit, yes cc/cd are still most important stats, of course ias is nice on top of that but those two come first. bow is somewhat viable, but not really...every DH pretty much uses manticore (2h xbow) or calamity (1h xbow). i occasionally see some DH use windforce with lifesteal and socket, but i'm pretty sure those can't roll crit dmg with socket, which is what everyone really wants
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zuqbu
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Germany797 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-10 10:51:30
September 10 2013 10:31 GMT
#3824
multishot is so much fun farming low MP with, but doesn't scale well. since the "meta" has moved to high MP play, both multishot and the DH in general have lost utility. i use a barb for efficient, MP10 farming and a multishot DH for having fun at low MPs. the real problem for multishot is, that it requires gear that locks you in the build or you won't be effective at all. see my DH (http://eu.battle.net/d3/en/profile/zuqbu-2361/hero/56830) for reference.
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Okiesmokie
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada379 Posts
September 21 2013 11:33 GMT
#3825
I'm just getting back into D3 and was wondering what you guys think the cheapest upgrade I would be able to get was, my profile is at:

http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Okiesmokie-1675/hero/12152488

Also, are Elemental Arrow + Lightning Ball and Hungering Arrow + Spray of Teeth still good skills to be using?
virpi
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Germany3598 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-23 20:12:09
September 23 2013 20:09 GMT
#3826
On September 21 2013 20:33 Okiesmokie wrote:
I'm just getting back into D3 and was wondering what you guys think the cheapest upgrade I would be able to get was, my profile is at:

http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Okiesmokie-1675/hero/12152488

Also, are Elemental Arrow + Lightning Ball and Hungering Arrow + Spray of Teeth still good skills to be using?

depends on your budget...there are lots of things you could improve with a few millions.
I'd buy a DML quiver and try some crafting for better bracers. Your rings are also not very good, but good rings are expensive. For a huge dps increase you'd need a manticore xbow, I've got no idea how expensive they are on the US server atm.

Your gems are also pretty mediocre, but if you're low on money, focusing on the items mentioned above is more important.

The skills are still fine. DH is a very weak class, but farming low mp levels is definitely doable with a DH. If you want to go above MP2 you'll need a lot more allres and HP to have fun.
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Okiesmokie
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada379 Posts
September 24 2013 20:40 GMT
#3827
I currently only have around 1 million gold, so I don't think I can afford a Manticore bow, my gems are pretty bad yeah but I think the higher level ones cost too much for me to afford
Romance_us
Profile Joined March 2006
Seychelles1806 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-24 23:34:15
September 24 2013 23:31 GMT
#3828
You can actually get a Manti quite cheap, i'm looking at them right now. There's one up right now for 300k buyout that has 1260 dps with a socket. No dex though, and the rolls aren't that great (10% attack 67% crit). But.. 1260dps with socket for 300k is not a bad start.

I'm guessing if you were patient you could probably snipe an even better one for around the same price. Also, that's just one example. There are tons in the 100k-200k range that aren't that bad
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cjin
Profile Joined July 2011
181 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-26 20:07:27
September 26 2013 20:02 GMT
#3829
Merano
Profile Joined January 2008
Austria105 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-10 14:44:40
March 10 2014 14:13 GMT
#3830
Need advise of some Demon Hunter veterans for a Kridershot Build.

For the ones who are not familiar with this build at all: + Show Spoiler +
Kridershot is a Bow that generates Hatred instead of consuming it when using Elemental Arrow. That way you can permanently use Elemental Arrow without needing to skill any additional Hatred generation, which is fair on its own. Further you can spend the unused Hatred on big Hatred spenders. My paper DPS with the Manticore was ~50k DPS higher, but the AoE and the freed up skill slots compared to Rapid Fire are probably worth it.


My main char was a Monk. With RoS / Patch 2.0 and Life Steal nerf, I switched to Demon Hunter because I never needed Life Steal for Demon Hunter anyways. Unfortunately I was running Manticore / Rapid Fire for 99% of the time and so I am not familiar with other builds yet.

What I am looking for:
* What is the best Rune for Elemental Arrow? - I currently have Frost Arrow (Cold) ..
* What is the best Hatred spender? - I currently have Cluster Arrow - Loaded for Bear (Fire) ...
* Overlapping elemental damage would be great for the build. Any ideas?
- Unfortunately, there is no Cold rune for Cluster Arrow ..;
- The Fear by Screaming Skull (Fire) probably sucks for Elemental Arrow.
- Running Lightning Damage runes for both skills probably sucks too ...
* If you would run different elemental damage types, because no optimal combination can be found, would you buff Elemental Arrow or the Hatred spender with the + to elemental damge gear?

My Char
LaNague
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany9118 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-10 16:14:07
March 10 2014 16:08 GMT
#3831
just a general thing, did you try the grenade cluster arrow yet?

it does stupid amounts of damage to enemies that are in the correct spot.
Like, 6 times 500% or something per shot.

i also do like to run fan of knives for the little shit enemies that try to run at me.





u can try chakrams if you want to match elemental types, too.
Merano
Profile Joined January 2008
Austria105 Posts
March 11 2014 07:34 GMT
#3832
On March 11 2014 01:08 LaNague wrote:
just a general thing, did you try the grenade cluster arrow yet?

it does stupid amounts of damage to enemies that are in the correct spot.
Like, 6 times 500% or something per shot.

i also do like to run fan of knives for the little shit enemies that try to run at me.
u can try chakrams if you want to match elemental types, too.


Tried Cluster Arrwo - Cluster Bombs (Grenades) yesterday, but the animation takes far too long for my taste. Loaded for Bear kills e.g. a room full of skeletons instantly in Keep 2 as the 770% weapon damage at impact location happen immediately when the button is pressed without any dealy. With Cluster Bombs I would have to stop and wait in each room. Maybe for players who don't want to pick up the loot anyways but rush on while the bombs are still in the air - but thats not my style of play.
LaNague
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany9118 Posts
March 11 2014 09:18 GMT
#3833
to each his own, i like it since its one of the better single target skills and i allready have free ele arrow.

then you also wont like chakrams, they can be slow as well. only the boomerang is fast, but it doesnt have the best area covered.
carraway
Profile Joined March 2011
264 Posts
March 15 2014 14:52 GMT
#3834
I have a low Kridershot (1191 DPS) and played around a bunch with Frost Arrow. While it's convenient, I still prefer a heavy fire-based Entangling(JiS)/Cluster(LfB) build for everything but CotA runs. The synergy is just so much better; I crafted a fire/cd amulet, fire/cc bracers, and luckily got a Cindercoat a while back. Still hoping to see Magefist and/or a fire Andariel's before RoS, but I'm pretty happy with my DH on T1-3. I can drop a little bit of DPS and get enough toughness for T4-5, but I prefer steamrolling and relaxing most of the time.

I do think Cluster Bombs are a better choice to pair with Frost Arrow though. Loaded for Bear is easier to use than the Bombs, but Frost Arrow is already a solid trash-killer, so Bombs do well as your boss-killer/single-target DPS. In the end personal preference and comfort level win out though.
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51420 Posts
March 22 2014 08:09 GMT
#3835
Anyone able to give me a build for Torment farming? Tried Strafe but it drains my hatred so hard.
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Inahime-1707/hero/40792645
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Thezzy
Profile Joined October 2010
Netherlands2117 Posts
March 22 2014 10:23 GMT
#3836
I use my DH with Entangling Shot as the primary Hatred generator (with the 6 hatred rune) and usually Frost Arrow as the hatred spender. You can kite enemies easily as both abilities slow.
I have Fan of Knives with the stun rune and Vault with Tumble for defense and Focus Fire for dealing high single target damage (usually elites/bosses).
This leaves one skill slot open that I change from time to time, I currently have Marked for Death with Contagion for a 20% damage boost. It pairs nicely with Frost Arrow because as it kills the first marked target, it spreads to the others before the Frost Arrow shards hit them. You can spread the mark very quickly.

As for passive, I use Steady Aim, Cull the Weak and Archery, all to buff DPS.
Cull the Weak also pairs nicely with Frost Arrow (and Focus Fire if you use the slow rune) as the Frost Arrow slows and spreads the slow via the shards.

I did get 20% fire damage bracers a little while back along with a Multishot dmg % item and I swapped Frost Arrow for Multishot with the fire rune and that works pretty good as well.
I'm also trying Cluster Arrow but it tends to overkill/waste hatred on smaller packs.

http://eu.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Thez-1901/hero/4621164
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carraway
Profile Joined March 2011
264 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-25 21:52:51
March 25 2014 21:50 GMT
#3837
I'm still happy with Entangling(JiS)/Cluster(LfB) as the cornerstone of my build. My most substantial upgrades came from enchanting level 60 items, but shoulders/legs/boots are great spots to pick up huge dex/toughness boosts. My tooltip DPS (~490k) seems low compared to what other people are rolling with for T1-2, but I have enough damage to clear rifts with minimal or no deaths up to T2 and Maltheal was pretty easy on T1. I use fire Andariel's, Magefist, Cindercoat, fire SoJ, fire rare amulet, and fire Demon bracers for a total of 101% +fire.
oscar62
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada417 Posts
March 27 2014 02:47 GMT
#3838
hey d3 experts, QUICK questions for yall for my lv. 35 HC demon hunter currently starting act 3 on expert

what's better for this phase of the game, slow 2 hander or dual wielding?

what are some recommended left click + right click combos for big big damages?

thanks.


Dakkas
Profile Joined October 2010
2550 Posts
March 27 2014 04:09 GMT
#3839
Weapon doesn't really matter until you reach 60+.
Thezzy
Profile Joined October 2010
Netherlands2117 Posts
March 27 2014 18:52 GMT
#3840
If you have a lvl 60 or higher character, you can blaze through many of the lower levels by using a high level Ruby (red gem) on your low lvl character's weapon.
Adding +60 or +100 damage to a 50 dps weapon will often triple your damage output.
Similarly, from level 40-ish and up you can use lvl 60 weapons with a level reduction requirement attribute to achieve the same effect.

Generally for DH I use a hatred generator (Primary) on my left click (I use Entangling Shot so I can kite more easily) and a hatred spender (Secondary) on my right click (I use Frost Arrow).
In your four slots you want at least one defensive ability, two if you are playing a higher difficulty, such as Vault or Smoke Screen. I often have Rapid Fire as a second spender to use against high health single targets.
Although having two spenders means you cant use both at the same time, I find it helps to have a strong single target DPS ability. The fourth slot is generally utility or player preference.
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