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Souma
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
2nd Worst City in CA8938 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-29 08:43:42
January 27 2015 01:23 GMT
#1
Beyond the Scandal

iBP-NCG Match Fixing Scandal



A fan of Brood War may recall the Savior Match Fixing Scandal of 2010 and refer to it as the darkest moment of the scene's history. The unprecedented magnitude of the incident, which implicated several well-known professional Brood War players, including one of the best players to ever touch the game, left the entire community, from fan to team owner, entirely baffled. At the time, there were little who knew how to appropriately handle a situation that would leave a permanent stain on the scene.

What matches were fixed? Was this player actually playing his best during this game? This player wasn't playing up to par that night; did he also throw?


Countless questions circulated amongst the minds of a skeptical community, and the most successful esport at the time began to crumble beneath the suspicion.

Now here we are, almost five years later, in a situation that may seem similar at first glance, but different in both scale and implications. Nevertheless, the circumstances are dire for a scene that seemed primed for imminent growth.

As many may already know, Valve released an official statement regarding the match-fixing incident between the former iBUYPOWER and NetcodeGuides squads that was cracked open by The Daily Dot journalist, Richard Lewis. Published with their statement was their decision to ban the perpetrators from all official Valve-sponsored events, which naturally includes every major $250,000 tournament. The list of convicted offenders is as follows:


us Duc "cud" Pham (ex-semi-pro)
us Casey Foster (co-owner of NetcodeGuides)
us Derek "dboorn" Boorn (ex-Torqued)
us Sam "DaZeD" Marine (ex-iBP and co-owner of NetcodeGuides)
us Braxton "swag" Pierce (ex-iBP)
ca Kevin "AZK" Larivière (ex-iBP)
ca Joshua "steel" Nissan (ex-iBP, Torqued)


Following suit, Esports Entertainment, more popularly referred to as ESEA, banned those convicted from its league for one year, with Erik "fl0m" Flom's squad subsequently dropping NetcodeGuides as their official sponsor.

The consequences of the ordeal will leave an enormous hole in the North American Counter-Strike: Global Offensive community as it continues to struggle to foster talent capable of rivaling Europe's. Three of the players involved represented the former iBUYPOWER squad who many expected to get scooped up by Evil Geniuses before the scandal made headlines. In them, North America will not only lose their current best team, but also the best in-game leader of the region in DaZeD, the young star swag, and a player who consistently performs against the very best the world has to offer, AZK. Additionally, the up-and-coming Torqued lineup will lose their own in-game leader and the highly regarded cameraman, steel, and another core member in dboorn.

To say the aftermath will set the region back a step may be an understatement, but the response from Valve, who took it upon themselves to further investigate the matter, was not only appropriate, but necessary. Following the cheating scandals that bore witness to professional European players being ousted and others barraged with accusations as a result, the global community has yet to fully recover from a skepticism that continues to swallow stream chats and forums alike.

When both of the above incidents are taken in tandem instead of separately, the situation begins to more similarly reflect that of the Brood War match-fixing scandal, and it is quite possibly one reason why Valve decided to take a more proactive role this time around. Rather than let the scene wither away due to a few bad apples, Valve took the required measures to ensure that the integrity of the scene remains intact, and thus supplied the community with another chance to flourish. Unlike Brood War, which experienced a steep decline due to reasons unrelated to the scandal, CS:GO is still an adolescent capable of growth spurts. With this involvement, and the hope that Valve further dedicates resources to ensure a stage for "integrity and fair play," the drama is sure to be put behind us, and North America can continue its quest to foster more talent for a chance at a championship on European soil.

A huge thanks must be given to Lewis, who published the initial story and spent an incredible amount of effort bringing it to the public's eye. Given the apathetic nature of the esports scene in general, the man must be praised for the initiative he undertook to break a story that many first looked upon with apprehensive eyes.

There are still many questions up in the air. The lone iBUYPOWER member not to be sanctioned, us Tyler "Skadoodle" Latham, along with the ex-iBP stand-in, us Spencer "Hiko" Martin, are now teamless. Both offer a plethora of experience and skill and are sure to find a new home soon, but with whom is a hot topic that will undoubtedly be speculated upon by the community in the coming days. Will Valve ever lift their bans for the convicted players, or will they keep them intact for life? Who will now take the former iBP squad's position as the best team in North America? Will it be CLG, C9, Team Liquid, or perhaps a lesser known team? When will we ever see a North American team in the finals of an international LAN tournament again? And, of course, who will observe our matches now that steel's gone?

There is something that must be said. This is the time for the community to show their resilience. This is the time for North American fraggers to feel the hunger. This is the time for stars to rise, to use this tribulation as a stepping stone, and to take a hold of the limelight that has presented itself. With matters now behind us, the future looks promising.

Writer: Souma
Editors: rlentless, amazingxkcd, nagisama. kupon3ss
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amazingxkcd
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
GRAND OLD AMERICA16375 Posts
January 27 2015 01:30 GMT
#2
This is quite sad news to see but the biggest thing to take from this is that we can make amends to what happened and move forward, something that brood war couldn't do.
The world is burning and you rather be on this terrible website discussing video games and your shallow feelings
Souma
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
2nd Worst City in CA8938 Posts
January 27 2015 01:51 GMT
#3
Mostly curious about Skadoodle and Hiko. Wonder if they'll form a new team with them as the core or just join a team or what...
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wun4
Profile Joined March 2011
Slovakia91 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-27 02:05:05
January 27 2015 02:00 GMT
#4
As much as this whole situation sucks for the NA scene, I do agree with the somewhat optimistic spirit of the article. I feel like it's good to have these scandals in the infancy of an esport (rather than later on), so that strict rules can be established early on, and the scene can grow hand-in-hand with strong emphasis on competitive integrity. Aside from that, it's certainly going to be exciting to see how the NA scene rebuilds itself. Hope to see lots of "fresh blood" flow into the NA scene.
dfs
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Russian Federation4050 Posts
January 27 2015 02:03 GMT
#5
Kids are dumb.
Writerhttp://i.imgur.com/Q1jSb9X.jpg (c) Shiro; http://i.imgur.com/lSDLLKb.png (c) drav
Souma
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
2nd Worst City in CA8938 Posts
January 27 2015 02:12 GMT
#6
CSGO Lounge putting tournament organizers on blast.




If tournament organizers really turned a blind-eye to all of this... shame on them.
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Alucen-Will-
Profile Joined October 2014
United States4054 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-27 02:27:24
January 27 2015 02:19 GMT
#7
On January 27 2015 11:00 wun4 wrote:
As much as this whole situation sucks for the NA scene, I do agree with the somewhat optimistic spirit of the article. I feel like it's good to have these scandals in the infancy of an esport (rather than later on), so that strict rules can be established early on, and the scene can grow hand-in-hand with strong emphasis on competitive integrity. Aside from that, it's certainly going to be exciting to see how the NA scene rebuilds itself. Hope to see lots of "fresh blood" flow into the NA scene.


This is a good point; I think by announcing it officially it will deter any future potential professional players from doing things like this. Also for valve to comment officially is notable, a company who is by custom hands-off. It may signal the acknowledgement for a more regular involvement with the pro scene in the future.
lestye
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States4149 Posts
January 27 2015 02:19 GMT
#8
I can't believe they did something so reckless when they're scene and future were looking so bright.
"You guys are just edgelords. Embrace your inner weeb desu" -Zergneedsfood
MattMannion
Profile Joined July 2012
United States25 Posts
January 27 2015 02:33 GMT
#9
In my opinion swag should get a second chance, like in a year or something. Everyone else can stay banned for all I care.
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Souma
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
2nd Worst City in CA8938 Posts
January 27 2015 02:35 GMT
#10
They are now banned from CEVO as well.

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DPK
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada487 Posts
January 27 2015 02:36 GMT
#11
Kinda shocked to see AZK in there and Skadoodle being the only one from ex-IBP not being sanctioned. How could 1 player from the whole team not being sanctioned? Did I miss something somewhere? I mean, they did throw the match, all 5 players so I kinda fail to understand why he isn't sanctioned like everyone else?
Desire.Discipline.Dedication
KillerSOS
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States4207 Posts
January 27 2015 02:39 GMT
#12
On January 27 2015 11:19 lestye wrote:
I can't believe they did something so reckless when they're scene and future were looking so bright.


Kids get greedy and think they're invincible. Put it up to the fact the eSports community is still quite young and there's not many mature figures in the community.
Daralii
Profile Joined March 2010
United States16991 Posts
January 27 2015 02:47 GMT
#13
On January 27 2015 11:36 DPK wrote:
Kinda shocked to see AZK in there and Skadoodle being the only one from ex-IBP not being sanctioned. How could 1 player from the whole team not being sanctioned? Did I miss something somewhere? I mean, they did throw the match, all 5 players so I kinda fail to understand why he isn't sanctioned like everyone else?

It's likely that there wasn't any data to indicate that he profited from it.
Fear is freedom! Subjugation is liberation! Contradiction is truth!
amazingxkcd
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
GRAND OLD AMERICA16375 Posts
January 27 2015 02:53 GMT
#14
Face IT just banned these guys as well: http://play.faceit.com/ex-ibuypower-removed-from-faceit-2015-league/
The world is burning and you rather be on this terrible website discussing video games and your shallow feelings
DPK
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada487 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-27 03:01:31
January 27 2015 03:00 GMT
#15
On January 27 2015 11:47 Daralii wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 27 2015 11:36 DPK wrote:
Kinda shocked to see AZK in there and Skadoodle being the only one from ex-IBP not being sanctioned. How could 1 player from the whole team not being sanctioned? Did I miss something somewhere? I mean, they did throw the match, all 5 players so I kinda fail to understand why he isn't sanctioned like everyone else?

It's likely that there wasn't any data to indicate that he profited from it.


Yeah that's what I thought but it doesn't make much sense IMO. Skadoodle did throw the match like everyone else on his team even if he didn't profited from it. He should get sanctioned like everyone else. It only shows that Valve is willing to let anyone throw a match but they wont' be sanctioned if they don't bet/profited from it, which is incredibly stupid.
Desire.Discipline.Dedication
TelecoM
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States10667 Posts
January 27 2015 03:05 GMT
#16
Really upsetting, curious to see where the 2 legit players will end up.
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Souma
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
2nd Worst City in CA8938 Posts
January 27 2015 03:10 GMT
#17
On January 27 2015 12:00 DPK wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 27 2015 11:47 Daralii wrote:
On January 27 2015 11:36 DPK wrote:
Kinda shocked to see AZK in there and Skadoodle being the only one from ex-IBP not being sanctioned. How could 1 player from the whole team not being sanctioned? Did I miss something somewhere? I mean, they did throw the match, all 5 players so I kinda fail to understand why he isn't sanctioned like everyone else?

It's likely that there wasn't any data to indicate that he profited from it.


Yeah that's what I thought but it doesn't make much sense IMO. Skadoodle did throw the match like everyone else on his team even if he didn't profited from it. He should get sanctioned like everyone else. It only shows that Valve is willing to let anyone throw a match but they wont' be sanctioned if they don't bet/profited from it, which is incredibly stupid.

It's possible the other four put in a good word for him. Something along the lines of, "Oh he didn't actually want to throw but since we were all going to throw anyway he couldn't exactly play seriously," or something. I dunno, but I doubt Valve made the decision carelessly, considering they put this much effort into it all.
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Roggay
Profile Joined April 2010
Switzerland6320 Posts
January 27 2015 03:25 GMT
#18
Well its very possible wasnt trying to throw that match in the first place.
And from what I can deduce from valve's blog, they didnt find anything suspicious about his trade history. Maybe he knew about it after the fact, but its very much possible he did not know until then. And you can't really blame him (aka banning him) for not exposing his teammates.
blade55555
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States17423 Posts
January 27 2015 04:24 GMT
#19
On January 27 2015 11:36 DPK wrote:
Kinda shocked to see AZK in there and Skadoodle being the only one from ex-IBP not being sanctioned. How could 1 player from the whole team not being sanctioned? Did I miss something somewhere? I mean, they did throw the match, all 5 players so I kinda fail to understand why he isn't sanctioned like everyone else?



It's possible they seriously didn't know, there is no proof for them (they showed no profit for it). They could have actually tried in the match and if they did it doesn't matter when 4 others aren't.

Regardless I don't understand why they are so dumb to do it. Hopefully doesn't happen again.
When I think of something else, something will go here
ZeromuS
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada13388 Posts
January 27 2015 04:30 GMT
#20
And DaZeD was so so good too :/

So many good NA players just threw their pro gaming careers away.
StrategyRTS forever | @ZeromuS_plays | www.twitch.tv/Zeromus_
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