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Telemako
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Spain1636 Posts
June 12 2009 06:54 GMT
#1421
Some mistakes (IMHO) you are making about RM players:

Sneijder: Played an awesome Euro but got injured in summer in a Friendly vs Arsenal. From that point he went tottally down. Night life, divorce, overweight. He didn't get fit back in the whole season. Not even a single good match. Seriously, if the guy doesn't change his new lifestyle, he is done for world class football.

Robben: Awesome dribbling skills and ninja dissapearing skills. He destroyed teams alone for a while in la Liga but tottally dissapeared against Liverpool at CL or Barça in Liga. That's not what a world class player should be like.

Van der Vaart: I also thought he was a middlefielder but he doesn't. He is not even an offensive middlefielder. He is a second striker. Gets tottally lost if he isn't near of the box, and does awesome combos and great shooting skills if he is.

Huntelaar: Pure striker. He is worthless outside of the box but deadly inside of it. The problem is that you need to give him the ball inside, he will manage to score if you do, but if the team needs teamplay he is useless (and that's what Real needed last season). Seriously, if this guy has the ball near inside the box, he scores (quite Van Nistelrooy-ish)

Ruud Van-Nistelrooy: He is 33-34 next season. Spent the whole last season recovering from surgery. That's a hard call, he can recover or be useless, but still you can make some € from him. I don't know what's going to happen.

And finally, about Pellegrini, I don't agree with you. He is Liga's Wegner. Created a Quarter/Semi finals CL team with a looooooooooow budget, unknown signings and a bunch of top class players nobody wanted (Pires, Riquelme (kicked out of Barça by then)). I think he is able to create a great team with RM resources but he needs to get heard, and I don't know if that's going to happen, because that was Florentino Perez biggest mistake last time. He is one of the best if not the best spanish bussiness man, but he might not believe he knows about football too.

I've been around since it all started, and it feels good
Z.Kw
Profile Joined February 2009
China297 Posts
June 12 2009 10:13 GMT
#1422
apparently united is after ribery but bayern want 40mil rofl
Liquid`Drone
Profile Joined September 2002
Norway28747 Posts
June 12 2009 12:02 GMT
#1423
compared to kaka and ronaldos transfers, 40 mil for ribery isnt unreasonable at all ;p
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PhilGood2DaY
Profile Joined September 2005
Germany7424 Posts
June 12 2009 12:19 GMT
#1424
Ribery is awesome.
40 mil is absolutely okey


In my opinion its just that Ronaldo isnt 1) worth THAT much 2) Real is STUPID for paying so MUCH
because 3) Manu could never keep a player who doesnt want to play.. and thus 4) rm would have got c.r much cheaper for sure..
hatred outlives the hateful
Spinfusor
Profile Joined June 2007
Australia410 Posts
June 12 2009 13:04 GMT
#1425
I doubt Ribery is nearly as marketable as Ronaldo and thus can't command the same fee. Plus Ronaldo has a decent claim to being the better player.
Klogon
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
MURICA15980 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-06-12 15:05:38
June 12 2009 15:05 GMT
#1426
On June 12 2009 21:19 MaGic~PhiL wrote:
Ribery is awesome.
40 mil is absolutely okey


In my opinion its just that Ronaldo isnt 1) worth THAT much 2) Real is STUPID for paying so MUCH
because 3) Manu could never keep a player who doesnt want to play.. and thus 4) rm would have got c.r much cheaper for sure..


Nah, Ronaldo respects SAF too much not to actually play. But he probably had the desire to move, and SAF finally conceded.
Klogon
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
MURICA15980 Posts
June 12 2009 15:10 GMT
#1427
And Real need some defenders.
TonyL2
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
England1953 Posts
June 12 2009 15:44 GMT
#1428
On June 13 2009 00:10 Klogon wrote:
And Real need some defenders.


Truth

Some rumours of Maicon or Clichy, both command a hefty price
Liquid`Drone
Profile Joined September 2002
Norway28747 Posts
June 12 2009 15:51 GMT
#1429
ronaldo is way more marketable than ribery, younger, and slightly better. so him costing significantly more is not strange. but ribery is also arguably top 5 in the world, getting him for half the price of ronaldo is a good deal.
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ilj.psa
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Peru3081 Posts
June 12 2009 17:42 GMT
#1430
On June 12 2009 15:54 Telemako wrote:
Some mistakes (IMHO) you are making about RM players:

Sneijder: Played an awesome Euro but got injured in summer in a Friendly vs Arsenal. From that point he went tottally down. Night life, divorce, overweight. He didn't get fit back in the whole season. Not even a single good match. Seriously, if the guy doesn't change his new lifestyle, he is done for world class football.

Robben: Awesome dribbling skills and ninja dissapearing skills. He destroyed teams alone for a while in la Liga but tottally dissapeared against Liverpool at CL or Barça in Liga. That's not what a world class player should be like.

Van der Vaart: I also thought he was a middlefielder but he doesn't. He is not even an offensive middlefielder. He is a second striker. Gets tottally lost if he isn't near of the box, and does awesome combos and great shooting skills if he is.

Huntelaar: Pure striker. He is worthless outside of the box but deadly inside of it. The problem is that you need to give him the ball inside, he will manage to score if you do, but if the team needs teamplay he is useless (and that's what Real needed last season). Seriously, if this guy has the ball near inside the box, he scores (quite Van Nistelrooy-ish)

Ruud Van-Nistelrooy: He is 33-34 next season. Spent the whole last season recovering from surgery. That's a hard call, he can recover or be useless, but still you can make some € from him. I don't know what's going to happen.

And finally, about Pellegrini, I don't agree with you. He is Liga's Wegner. Created a Quarter/Semi finals CL team with a looooooooooow budget, unknown signings and a bunch of top class players nobody wanted (Pires, Riquelme (kicked out of Barça by then)). I think he is able to create a great team with RM resources but he needs to get heard, and I don't know if that's going to happen, because that was Florentino Perez biggest mistake last time. He is one of the best if not the best spanish bussiness man, but he might not believe he knows about football too.


I agree with all of this except for Robben. Against Liverpool and Barcelona the whole team was pretty bad, putting the blame on just one player and saying he didn't do anything would not be right, besides i remember everytime he managed to touch the ball against the last Barca match he was the only one that created real danger.
SuperArc
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Austria7781 Posts
June 13 2009 12:39 GMT
#1431
Robben was RM's best player against Barcelona.
Snow - future of protoss! :) Nada = baller
unknown.sam
Profile Joined May 2007
Philippines2701 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-06-13 13:40:20
June 13 2009 13:38 GMT
#1432
i duno if this has been posted before but seriously WTF

"Thanks for the kind words, but if SS is the most interesting book you've ever read, you must have just started reading a couple of weeks ago." - Mark Rippetoe
SuperArc
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Austria7781 Posts
June 13 2009 14:47 GMT
#1433
No, he compared it to his and was disappointed.
Snow - future of protoss! :) Nada = baller
Holgerius
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sweden16951 Posts
June 13 2009 19:19 GMT
#1434
On June 13 2009 22:38 unknown.sam wrote:
i duno if this has been posted before but seriously WTF

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-JiDJS0AQ98

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!

So funny. XD

I believe in the almighty Grötslev! -- I am never serious and you should never believe a thing I say. Including the previous sentence.
Klive5ive
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United Kingdom6056 Posts
June 13 2009 22:34 GMT
#1435
On June 12 2009 04:43 ilj.psa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 12 2009 02:58 kidd wrote:
On June 12 2009 02:50 Klive5ive wrote:
Rofl at £80m. That certainly makes sense for United, I wonder if Real will manage to do anything with their new players.


I'm more interested in who Man U will buy to replace C Ronaldo with all that money.

the most likely is Valencia , but wouldn't surprise me if they go for Robben too

Valencia it by the looks of it. Some reports say they've offered £17.5m.
Interestingly the Wigan chairman says SAF has watched Valencia every game this season and has been interested for a while. I guess it's a direct replacement.
I expect this is only the beginning.
Don't hate the player - Hate the game
ilj.psa
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Peru3081 Posts
June 13 2009 22:36 GMT
#1436
Yeah I think Valencia has a lot of future.
btw whos the boner guy? Rooney?
zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
June 13 2009 22:59 GMT
#1437
valencia is pretty good
Aerox
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Malaysia1213 Posts
June 14 2009 14:17 GMT
#1438
How about Riquelme? If MU had to buy just one, I'd think he'd be a perfect addition. How much would he cost?
"Eyes in the sky."
warding
Profile Joined August 2005
Portugal2394 Posts
June 14 2009 14:49 GMT
#1439
Riquelme is 30 and plays as a latin type #10 playmaker. Don't think he's the kind of player who'd fit neatly into English football or the MU team.
kemoryan
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Spain1506 Posts
June 14 2009 15:55 GMT
#1440
Hahaha that video is hilarious!
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