On June 11 2009 06:33 Klive5ive wrote: Oh and England have 7 straight wins in qualifying now xD Amazing what a difference a competent manager can make.
I wish the french football federation would understand that.
On June 11 2009 21:38 paper wrote: why is it that when someone scores, they avoid the other teammates while running back until a bunch of them just jump on him
Because this way his sponsors earn money, when he's alone on the screen. It's an unwritten law present not only in football(soccer-.-) but in almost every other sport as well.
As to Real Madrid: David Villa is about to join them as well. I wonder if Perez eventually gets a playmaker or they gonna play like Argentina do - a big gap between defensive midfielders and the attack. Both Kaka and Ronaldo are not suited for playmaking. They are AMs, OMs, mediapuntas or whatever you call them. Their job is to bring the ball close to the penalty area and either shoot on goal or provide the ball to the forward(s). You need to have some creative players to distribute the ball in the middle. Diarra and Gago fail here. It's one of the reasons why Argentina's national team sucks so much with the players they have. Messi, Aguero, Tevez, Maxi R., D. Milito. Great attack. G.Milito(he'll recover soon), Demichelis, Burdisso, Zanetti, Mascherano, Gago - not a bad defence either. But what about their midfield ? Veron - rather finishing football career, Jonas Gutierrez - hardly a creative force. Quick ball from DMs to forwards and let's see what they can do - you won't win anything playing like that. Even with such talented players like Messi or Aguero. The same might happen to Real Madrid. 6 players in the back, 4 at the front - that;s what it looks like after buying Kaka and Ronaldo.So, either they will sacrifice one from the Gago-Diarra pair for a much more creative yet capable of defending player, a 'Xabi Alonso', 'Cesc Fabregas' type, or they will play with only one true forward, being it Villa or Higuain and try some formations between 4-5-1 and 4-3-3 - 4-2-1-2-1 or 4-1-2-2-1 - whatever you call them. Otherwise, I don't see how it could work properly. Maybe you have some ideas. If so, please share them
They still have Sneijder and he fit that role, hope he recovers his level , would be incredibly stupid of Real to let him go imo cause he's world class.
On June 12 2009 00:27 Musli wrote: Quick ball from DMs to forwards and let's see what they can do - you won't win anything playing like that. Even with such talented players like Messi or Aguero. The same might happen to Real Madrid. 6 players in the back, 4 at the front - that;s what it looks like after buying Kaka and Ronaldo.So, either they will sacrifice one from the Gago-Diarra pair for a much more creative yet capable of defending player, a 'Xabi Alonso', 'Cesc Fabregas' type, or they will play with only one true forward, being it Villa or Higuain and try some formations between 4-5-1 and 4-3-3 - 4-2-1-2-1 or 4-1-2-2-1 - whatever you call them. Otherwise, I don't see how it could work properly. Maybe you have some ideas. If so, please share them
Real Madrid's recruting has never really followed a game plan, it's more about getting big names, selling shirts and telling the manager "With such good players, there must be something you can do".
On June 12 2009 00:27 Musli wrote:The same might happen to Real Madrid. 6 players in the back, 4 at the front - that;s what it looks like after buying Kaka and Ronaldo.So, either they will sacrifice one from the Gago-Diarra pair for a much more creative yet capable of defending player, a 'Xabi Alonso', 'Cesc Fabregas' type, or they will play with only one true forward, being it Villa or Higuain and try some formations between 4-5-1 and 4-3-3 - 4-2-1-2-1 or 4-1-2-2-1 - whatever you call them. Otherwise, I don't see how it could work properly. Maybe you have some ideas. If so, please share them
I'm on the verge of writing Gago off at this stage. If Alonso doesn't come in, I'd love for Del la Red to be given a shot. The real weakness is still in the fullbacks though IMO. Kaka might not be classified the same way as, say, Xavi, but I think you're playing down his playmaking abilities a bit.
On June 12 2009 01:08 HorsementalitY wrote: yea it is def the most expensive transfer...zizu's was like 46.5M or something like that. Kaka's broke that record, now ronaldo's.
Kaka only broke the record in terms of pounds, not Euros (pound exchange rate has plummeted) which doesn't make any sense since both deals will be done in Euros. Ronaldo's does beat out both in strict terms, but if you throw on inflation at, say, 3% p.a. Zidane wins in terms of Euros again.
On June 12 2009 01:08 HorsementalitY wrote: yea it is def the most expensive transfer...zizu's was like 46.5M or something like that. Kaka's broke that record, now ronaldo's. Watch Man City break that record with whoever they go after.
I never like ronaldo just cuz i hate Man U so much. Now i like him cuz he's at Real..Nice.
This is good news cuz i think Fox sports is gonna be broadcasting La liga games next yr? Can't wait to see what this Real Madrid team will be able to do.
I bet Wenger and Mourinho now wish they had given serious thoughts to taking over at Real...imagine coaching ronaldo, kaka and possibly villa.
Pellegrini will fail. Doesn't he have issues with players with egos? players who think they are bigger than the club? Riquelme?
I don't like Pellegrini but he's perfect to start things off, then when he fails 2 months into the season, they can put it a more "known" and accomplished coach.
I think Pellegrini is actually fit to manage this type of situations and he's a very respected coach too on he teams he's managed. About Kaka and potentially Villa , I don;'t think they will cause any ego problems, those guys are actually very humble. Dunno about Ronaldo though that guy has a past with this ego problems, hopefully he left that behind.
On June 12 2009 01:08 HorsementalitY wrote: yea it is def the most expensive transfer...zizu's was like 46.5M or something like that. Kaka's broke that record, now ronaldo's.
haha was about to contradict you because I thought zinedine zidane was more expensive looked at wikipedia and found out that kaka is the most expensive in pounds, zidane the most expensive in euros ronaldo will beat both records
What about Huntelaar and Nistelrooy and Robben? World class players when they aren't injured. I could seriously fill two attacking setups with RM's roster and not be upset at all. They need to get Xabi Alonso or play Van der Vaart instead of Diarra and hope their back 4 can keep them alive.
On June 12 2009 02:50 Klive5ive wrote: Rofl at £80m. That certainly makes sense for United, I wonder if Real will manage to do anything with their new players.
I'm more interested in who Man U will buy to replace C Ronaldo with all that money.
On June 12 2009 02:50 Klive5ive wrote: Rofl at £80m. That certainly makes sense for United, I wonder if Real will manage to do anything with their new players.
I'm more interested in who Man U will buy to replace C Ronaldo with all that money.
the most likely is Valencia , but wouldn't surprise me if they go for Robben too
On June 12 2009 02:50 Klive5ive wrote: Rofl at £80m. That certainly makes sense for United, I wonder if Real will manage to do anything with their new players.
I'm more interested in who Man U will buy to replace C Ronaldo with all that money.
Without Ronaldo they can play Rooney, Berbatov and Tevez which is still an awesome lineup.
Then they just need to supplement that with quality. Cesc Fabregas is who I would be chasing. If they can take better control of the midfield then their team could improve further.
pretty sure arsenal will murder fabregas before they let him go to united. I really hope this means we're gonna keep tevez now that we have the money. I think Ribery would be a perfect fit actually.
On June 12 2009 05:14 zulu_nation8 wrote: pretty sure arsenal will murder fabregas before they let him go to united. I really hope this means we're gonna keep tevez now that we have the money. I think Ribery would be a perfect fit actually.
Well he could be. A little old and a bit of a gamble though. The most immense buy ever would be Beckham, if somehow they could make that happen United fans would go absolutely crazy.
On June 12 2009 06:33 GTR wrote: lol if real don't win anything with the team they have now, they deserve to be relegated. by the way when will the 2009-2010 thread officially open?
Probably when the leauges start up again after the break.