EPTEnlargement of the United States? - Page 2
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Serpico
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sevia
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ThePol002
Canada90 Posts
On March 16 2013 14:17 Arctic Daishi wrote: ... The United States is the greatest form of governance ever imagined, we already have the perfect framework in place to let other countries and territories join us. That's all, and thanks for the lols... Seriously, if you're serious, you SERIOUSLY need to travel. What I think you are trying to say is that WITH the perfect form of governance, all the people of the world should reap the benefits of that government. However. That is a very different statement. | ||
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Sufficiency
Canada23833 Posts
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Arctic Daishi
United States152 Posts
On March 16 2013 14:31 hoby2000 wrote: No way dude. No country is better off than any other country. Claiming that we're better off than Europe shows you don't understand how the world economy works. If one country is going down, they all go down at the same time. Remember how Greece was in a lot of debt? And now France is? This isn't a coincedence. And how you can you say most of the world holds a positive view based on a wikipedia article? Which people are they interviewing? We're practically terrorists. The US is honestly no different than most countries in the middle east that are stirring up wars there. Centered around mostly one religion (Freedom of religion exists in the US, but it's dominated by christian sects), perceive us as being the bad guy, consistently tring to invade other countries. God, it's really pathetic sometimes that people honestly believe that the US is looked well upon. No it's not. Not even close. We are an empire now, and like every empire, we will crumble eventually. I never said America is "better" than any other country, merely that the Constitution is the greatest form of government possible. We have the framework to create a free and prosperous world and it would be crime against humanity to not utilize it. Something tells me all of the polling data from reputable polling sources is more reliable than a 12 year old kid from Denmark. Not once did I mention anything about invading other countries or "stirring up wars," yet you still attack me fervently based on your misconceptions. You need to abandon your biases, instead of lashing out against people and concepts you do not understand, perhaps you should take the time out to think critically and seriously consider ideas placed before you. | ||
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canikizu
4860 Posts
On March 16 2013 14:24 Arctic Daishi wrote: Europe is much worse off than we are in terms of debt. Despite what a few European kids on the internet might have you believe, most of the world holds a positive view of the United States. Because most of the time people don't know/understand about USA's economy/politics/racial diverse,....., for example, most people I talk to don't even know that USA has 13% of population is Africans, 5% is Asian, all of them think USA is 100% white. You'd be surprised to know that up until Obama became the President, a lot of people discover that there are African American in USA. Because of that US has always been the Promise Land, everybody seems to want to live the American Dream, until they move to USA and be deeply disappointed. Don't get me wrong. USA is still a great country, but to me it's just the standard of the standard. It's not the best in every fields out there but certainly not the worst. And yeah, fuk no gun control... | ||
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Zrana
United Kingdom698 Posts
No gun control Corrupt political system Worst education and health system per national wealth in the world Slave labour in prisons Large amounts of racism and religious/sexual etc intolerance. Large portions of the world quite angry with it due to brutish foriegn policies Pros: Has Day[9] Woo! America! Sign me up! | ||
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GolemMadness
Canada11044 Posts
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Arctic Daishi
United States152 Posts
On March 16 2013 14:34 Narfin wrote: The United Kingdom should clearly become part of the United States. We have such a rich history of friendship and have never had a major quarrel of any kind. Your sarcasm aside, I think if you did research on the subject, you would find that we have a close relationship unrivaled by any other. | ||
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DannyJ
United States5110 Posts
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achan1058
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MountainDewJunkie
United States10347 Posts
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hoby2000
United States918 Posts
On March 16 2013 14:40 Arctic Daishi wrote: I never said America is "better" than any other country, merely that the Constitution is the greatest form of government possible. We have the framework to create a free and prosperous world and it would be crime against humanity to not utilize it. Something tells me all of the polling data from reputable polling sources is more reliable than a 12 year old kid from Denmark. Not once did I mention anything about invading other countries or "stirring up wars," yet you still attack me fervently based on your misconceptions. You need to abandon your biases, instead of lashing out against people and concepts you do not understand, perhaps you should take the time out to think critically and seriously consider ideas placed before you. No, the constitution is not the "greatest form of government possible." That's a very asinine assumption to make, seeing how you're discounting any future government ideas. It has great ideas, but ultimately it still lends it's hand to those who want power and fame. I gave examples such as invading other countries, forcing religious laws down people's throats, and taking away freedoms one by one (police drones, partiot act, whatver makes it now so Obama can kill someone without reason) because it shows that the constitution is inherently flawed. It's not the greatest outline for a government, and it never will be. There are a lot of improvements ot be made, and alot of rethinking to be done. And your assumption that I haven't done my critical thinking shows more about you than it does about me. I gave you very good reasons as to why our government is not a good basis to go off of, and you discarded them because they looked like random points, but they weren't. Those actions are relative to how our country works. Even more so, the fact that you're defending it tooth and nail shows you're being more biased than I am. I live in the same country as you, and have read a lot of books about not just politics, but also psychology, sociology, and philosophy because they all relate to each other. I'm not saying this because I want the US to be destroyed or fall - I'm saying this because that's the way it's headed, and I want to change it too, but reviving the Constitution is not the answer. | ||
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{CC}StealthBlue
United States41117 Posts
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Pheon
Canada13 Posts
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feanor1
United States1899 Posts
On March 16 2013 14:31 hoby2000 wrote: No way dude. No country is better off than any other country. Claiming that we're better off than Europe shows you don't understand how the world economy works. If one country is going down, they all go down at the same time. Remember how Greece was in a lot of debt? And now France is? This isn't a coincedence. And how you can you say most of the world holds a positive view based on a wikipedia article? Which people are they interviewing? We're practically terrorists. The US is honestly no different than most countries in the middle east that are stirring up wars there. Centered around mostly one religion (Freedom of religion exists in the US, but it's dominated by christian sects), perceive us as being the bad guy, consistently tring to invade other countries. God, it's really pathetic sometimes that people honestly believe that the US is looked well upon. No it's not. Not even close. We are an empire now, and like every empire, we will crumble eventually. Really no country is better off than any other country? I mean I'm all for equality, but I don't think North Korean immigration is exactly turning people away | ||
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hoby2000
United States918 Posts
On March 16 2013 14:49 feanor1 wrote: Really no country is better off than any other country? I mean I'm all for equality, but I don't think North Korean immigration is exactly turning people away I meant economy wise. Had you read the whole paragraph, instead of the first sentence, you would have understood what I meant. | ||
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oneofthem
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
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