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Instead of always trying to join bureaucratic, undemocratic and often times anti-freedom international organizations, why not simply enlarge the United States? The United States is the greatest form of governance ever imagined, we already have the perfect framework in place to let other countries and territories join us.
We could actively work over the course of the next few decades to build very close relations with other countries. If these countries agree to uphold the Constitution, protect freedom (free speech, bearing arms, freedom of religion, etc.) and maintain a democratic/republican form of government then there is no reason they shouldn't be allowed to join. Alaska, Hawaii and Puerto Rico have all decided to become American states, even though they aren't connected to the contiguous 48 states, making precedent. These new states would be able to keep their unique culture, politics and identity, much like current states do.
Of course these countries wouldn't join the United States overnight, as we would first have to build very close relations with both their people and their governments, before holding a referendum on their entry into the federation. Countries that are already federations or have unique cultural groups in them could offer to join as several different states (i.e. each canton of Switzerland could become it's own state) if they wish to do so.
What do you think of this proposal? Which countries do you think are the best potential candidates for joining the federation? Do you think we should allow monarchic countries (i.e. Japan, Sweden, United Kingdom, etc.) to join or should we wait until they become republics?
Poll: Which country should join the United States first?Korea (10) 26% Israel (5) 13% Canada (4) 11% Ghana (3) 8% United Kingdom (2) 5% United Arab Emirates (2) 5% Germany (2) 5% Taiwan (1) 3% Switzerland (1) 3% Japan (1) 3% Albania & Former Yugoslav States (1) 3% Australia & New Zealand (1) 3% France (1) 3% Finland, Norway, Sweden (1) 3% Central America & Caribbean (1) 3% Bulgaria, Greece, Hungary, Romania (1) 3% Greenland & Iceland (1) 3% Czech Republic & Slovakia (0) 0% Poland (0) 0% Turkey (0) 0% Belgium, Luxembourg, Netherlands (0) 0% 38 total votes Your vote: Which country should join the United States first? (Vote): Albania & Former Yugoslav States
(Vote): Australia & New Zealand
(Vote): Belgium, Luxembourg, Netherlands
(Vote): Bulgaria, Greece, Hungary, Romania
(Vote): Canada
(Vote): Central America & Caribbean
(Vote): Czech Republic & Slovakia
(Vote): Finland, Norway, Sweden
(Vote): France
(Vote): Germany
(Vote): Greenland & Iceland
(Vote): Ghana
(Vote): Israel
(Vote): Japan
(Vote): Korea
(Vote): Poland
(Vote): Switzerland
(Vote): Taiwan
(Vote): Turkey
(Vote): United Arab Emirates
(Vote): United Kingdom
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I'll be very concerned if Korea doesn't win this vote
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>US has the best form of government in the world and should expand.
>So far in debt that we probably will never pay it off and most of the world hates it.
On March 16 2013 14:21 YourAdHere wrote:
I'll be very concerned if Korea doesn't win this vote
Does that include North Korea too?
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oh my god
swedish players under US banner
finally some good US players 
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Hey why don't you guys just annex the entire african continent ? Great idea if you ask me ...
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Obama ruined the US didn't you get the memo?
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On March 16 2013 14:17 Arctic Daishi wrote:
Instead of always trying to join bureaucratic, undemocratic and often times anti-freedom international organizations, why not simply enlarge the United States? The United States is the greatest form of governance ever imagined, we already have the perfect framework in place to let other countries and territories join us.
We could actively work over the course of the next few decades to build very close relations with other countries. If these countries agree to uphold the Constitution, protect freedom (free speech, bearing arms, freedom of religion, etc.) and maintain a democratic/republican form of government then there is no reason they shouldn't be allowed to join.
Shouldn't our government do that first before trying to get other countries to do it?
and I hate to tell you this, but the US is a failed experiment in human freedom. They had the right ideas, but unfortunately, they got completely raped and pillaged by greedy men who decided they needed to run the world. I'm not going to say that this is how the world will always be, but there isn't much evidence of change, and in fact I would say that it's quite the opposite. If anything, our government system is about to collapse on itself, and you think it's a bright idea to invite other countries into this collapse?
We should probably wait until we reform our government to cope with modern day technology and ways of thinking.
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Either 12 or... not sure if srs. :/
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On March 16 2013 14:28 hoby2000 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 16 2013 14:17 Arctic Daishi wrote:
Instead of always trying to join bureaucratic, undemocratic and often times anti-freedom international organizations, why not simply enlarge the United States? The United States is the greatest form of governance ever imagined, we already have the perfect framework in place to let other countries and territories join us.
We could actively work over the course of the next few decades to build very close relations with other countries. If these countries agree to uphold the Constitution, protect freedom (free speech, bearing arms, freedom of religion, etc.) and maintain a democratic/republican form of government then there is no reason they shouldn't be allowed to join.
Shouldn't our government do that first before trying to get other countries to do it? and I hate to tell you this, but the US is a failed experiment in human freedom. They had the right ideas, but unfortunately, they got completely raped and pillaged by greedy men who decided they needed to run the world. I'm not going to say that this is how the world will always be, but there isn't much evidence of change, and in fact I would say that it's quite the opposite. If anything, our government system is about to collapse on itself, and you think it's a bright idea to invite other countries into this collapse? We should probably wait until we reform our government to cope with modern day technology and ways of thinking.
Who is to say we can't restore the Constitution and work to build closer relations with other nations at the same time?
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Sometimes you guys make it really hard to not be one of those US bashing idiots.......
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The entire world should be the United States. Murica!
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On March 16 2013 14:29 Liquid`Jinro wrote:
Sometimes you guys make it really hard to not be one of those US bashing idiots.......
You have no idea if OP is even from the US though. I guess you are a mod so you can IP check, but most of the time I don't take country settings as truth.
And we're just trying to give you freedom you heathen,
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No way dude. No country is better off than any other country. Claiming that we're better off than Europe shows you don't understand how the world economy works. If one country is going down, they all go down at the same time. Remember how Greece was in a lot of debt? And now France is? This isn't a coincedence.
And how you can you say most of the world holds a positive view based on a wikipedia article? Which people are they interviewing? We're practically terrorists. The US is honestly no different than most countries in the middle east that are stirring up wars there. Centered around mostly one religion (Freedom of religion exists in the US, but it's dominated by christian sects), perceive us as being the bad guy, consistently tring to invade other countries.
God, it's really pathetic sometimes that people honestly believe that the US is looked well upon. No it's not. Not even close. We are an empire now, and like every empire, we will crumble eventually.
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On March 16 2013 14:30 L0L wrote:
The entire world should be the United States. Murica!
You haven't given the subject any thought whatsoever, yet you think you're so cool because you can drop by a thread and make a one-line post bashing America. You're so cool, I want to be just like you when I grow up.
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Isn't there a smaller Spanish-speaking country close to Mexico that was looking into this (and I mean seriously looking into this) a while ago? Sorry if my knowledge of geopolitics isn't up-to-date.
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" If these countries agree to uphold the Constitution, protect freedom (free speech, bearing arms, freedom of religion, etc.)"
Then I saw Israel is tied with Korea with 2 votes and I'm confused.
This sounds like some kind of mutual imperialism with assumptions I don't really agree with. In my ideal future, North America becomes equivocal to what the Europe is. North America, Europe, Asia, etc. cooperate under an entity similar to the United Nations. Why should other countries join the U.S. Why shouldn't the U.S. join another country? I don't think there should be a leading country but a coalition of leading unions.
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The United Kingdom should clearly become part of the United States. We have such a rich history of friendship and have never had a major quarrel of any kind.
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On March 16 2013 14:29 Arctic Daishi wrote:Show nested quote +On March 16 2013 14:28 hoby2000 wrote:On March 16 2013 14:17 Arctic Daishi wrote:
Instead of always trying to join bureaucratic, undemocratic and often times anti-freedom international organizations, why not simply enlarge the United States? The United States is the greatest form of governance ever imagined, we already have the perfect framework in place to let other countries and territories join us.
We could actively work over the course of the next few decades to build very close relations with other countries. If these countries agree to uphold the Constitution, protect freedom (free speech, bearing arms, freedom of religion, etc.) and maintain a democratic/republican form of government then there is no reason they shouldn't be allowed to join.
Shouldn't our government do that first before trying to get other countries to do it? and I hate to tell you this, but the US is a failed experiment in human freedom. They had the right ideas, but unfortunately, they got completely raped and pillaged by greedy men who decided they needed to run the world. I'm not going to say that this is how the world will always be, but there isn't much evidence of change, and in fact I would say that it's quite the opposite. If anything, our government system is about to collapse on itself, and you think it's a bright idea to invite other countries into this collapse? We should probably wait until we reform our government to cope with modern day technology and ways of thinking. Who is to say we can't restore the Constitution and work to build closer relations with other nations at the same time?
Tell me the last time progress was made in Congress, the Senate, or the House of Representatives. It's the same old dudes who have been in their, making the same choices. They just have different faces and different names. They've manipulated our system so they can literally put whoever they need in replacement of their spot. If that's not obvious, or you think I'm crazy, look at how much hasn't changed in the past 50 years. War on Drugs started in the 70's, we've been sending troops to Kuwait, Iran, Iraq, Vietnam, Korea, among others, and our economy is a constant state of flux. While fluxes are normal for economies, we experience increased booms and busts every time either happens.
And this has all been going on for at least 50 years, if not longer.
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