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On January 28 2013 21:02 lost_artz wrote:
I would take moletrap and Doa over these two. Also the 2 second lag on the audio to video is rather annoying.
Hell, I would even take Apollo and he literally annoys me to the point of muting him.
Apollo??!?!??! WOOOOOOOOOOT.... you're insane... Apollo and Artosis are by far the most Professional, Hansome, Inteligent and Nerds Casters in Starcraft history..... Also they both have an insane prediction skills  ...
btt: I rly dont know why they dont take DoA and add someone else who is known in the esport scene.... i dont know both of these casters and i rly dont enjoy their casting... their jokes are lame, predictions always fail and so on..  .. sorry if im rude but many people in chat also complain about these things but nothing is changing
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On January 28 2013 20:47 theBALLS wrote:
I don't understand the hate, I really don't. They're not the greatest, but they're not painful to listen to.
For me their voices are not pleasant to listen to because no matter what they say it sounds flat and doesn't get me excited. Plus they/snm often use awkward sentences, for example using "but" to chain multiple (long) sentences together.
They don't work well with another and misjudge situations quite often.
So for me it is hard not to mute the stream because my attention goes to criticizing the casters instead of getting information from their cast.
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I pretty much don't watch PL any more. Enough said.
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On January 28 2013 21:22 J1.au wrote:
I pretty much don't watch PL any more. Enough said.
Really constructive.
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Improving steadily. Although I think it was dumb to just throw them in there in such a big tournament, I think they are an improvement to the opening casts from TB, and as I mentioned they are ever improving!
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On January 28 2013 21:09 d00p wrote:
I don't think SNM's probem is an accent. Im' pretty sure it's some kind of speach impediment. He seems to have trouble with the letter "R" and has to put extra effort into it and that affects his overall fluency.
He seems to have trouble with the letter R which is indicative of many people that natively speak certain Asian languages. Which I'm fairly sure makes it an accent and not a speech impediment, that's actually pretty insulting.. A number of Asian languages don't distinguish between the L and the R sound. I don't speak Korean, but I know that's the case for Japanese.
Edit: And a quick google search later, here's your source http://www.asel.udel.edu/icslp/cdrom/vol3/518/a518.pdf Just read the introduction.
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I think they really improved and I start to like it.
Next they should work on their hype-making/voice-spectrum (too monotone atm).
Keep up the good work :-)
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He is Korean? Why would they pick a Korean to do an english cast? I did not know he is korean. That would explain it.
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On January 28 2013 21:27 Martijn wrote:Show nested quote +On January 28 2013 21:09 d00p wrote:
I don't think SNM's probem is an accent. Im' pretty sure it's some kind of speech impediment. He seems to have trouble with the letter "R" and has to put extra effort into it and that affects his overall fluency.
He seems to have trouble with the letter R which is indicative of many people that natively speak certain Asian languages. Which I'm fairly sure makes it an accent and not a speech impediment, that's actually pretty insulting.. A number of Asian languages don't distinguish between the L and the R sound. I don't speak Korean, but I know that's the case for Japanese. Edit: And a quick google search later, here's your source http://www.asel.udel.edu/icslp/cdrom/vol3/518/a518.pdf Just read the introduction.
Go ahead and get insulted then. I didn't know he is korean. I'm aware of the problem asians have with R, thanks.
edit. And technically it's the same thing as a speech impediment for a westener. His tongue is unable to perform the tricks necessary due to lack of practise, though a speech impediment is more an innate inability, or a combination of both I guess but is surmountable with practise.
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On January 28 2013 21:40 d00p wrote:
He is Korean? Why would they pick a Korean to do an english cast? I did not know he is korean. That would explain it.
because he can then translate from korean to english maybe?
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On January 28 2013 21:43 GunSec wrote:Show nested quote +On January 28 2013 21:40 d00p wrote:
He is Korean? Why would they pick a Korean to do an english cast? I did not know he is korean. That would explain it. because he can then translate from korean to english maybe?
Could be, though I haven't seen it utilized much so far. I have only watched like 40% of it though.
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On January 28 2013 21:40 d00p wrote:
He is Korean? Why would they pick a Korean to do an english cast? I did not know he is korean. That would explain it.
Because his dad is the CEO of the company.
Duh!
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I bought the ticket for 5$ - am I able to watch the vods and live games in korean?
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On January 28 2013 21:50 d00p wrote:Show nested quote +On January 28 2013 21:43 GunSec wrote:On January 28 2013 21:40 d00p wrote:
He is Korean? Why would they pick a Korean to do an english cast? I did not know he is korean. That would explain it. because he can then translate from korean to english maybe? Could be, though I haven't seen it utilized much so far. I have only watched like 40% of it though.
well he translates the interviews and seems to be the one to communicate with kespa. he translates quite a bit actually.
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you can watch live korean stream and vods for free
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Although the rate of improvement is not the fastest ever, i feel like their casting gets better almost with every single cast. Some problems are still persistent, like undermining/ ignoring each others jokes which needs to go away asap. The ability to play of each other seems like the most common aspect which renders some casting duos as "the best". The only other complaint will be that they are starting to speak better bout the games, but both need a more diverse tonal range. Both SNM and whiplash should try to diversify their narratives to make them less monotone. Personally I often feel like PL is just 6 combined sets, without a real feel into the teams perspectives/ matchup hypes/ ace pressure. All of these could be fixed by making sure that their current tones adjust to better convey the points they are trying to make. I feel like this is has the biggest room for improvement, and will sway the most people over. Just think of how often tastosis or wolf/khaldor or tb emphasize that they are SUPER excited, that this is gonna be an INSANE matchup, how it was a GREAT set of games, emphasizing these points with appropriate (excited) tone makes you instantly more engaged.
I also want to mention a request to KeSpa that they put the english casters on stream more often for us english viewers, at least instead of the shots of the korean commentators. I think thats quite silly considering we have already seen that they have the green screen in place. The net result is that the casters feel like translators and not casters in between the games. I think both SNM and Whiplash look very likeable, and I would not be surprised if a lot of people started enjoying the casts slighly more if they could connect the voices with the faces/ personalities.
TLDR: keep improving, its not bad. Work on your joke synergy (i am not sure to what extent this can be "worked out" as I am sure two great friends would have no problem with that) and diversifying your tone to match the current situation. Also, kespa get their faces on stream more often, but not during games!
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On January 28 2013 22:58 qotsager wrote:Show nested quote +On January 28 2013 21:50 d00p wrote:On January 28 2013 21:43 GunSec wrote:On January 28 2013 21:40 d00p wrote:
He is Korean? Why would they pick a Korean to do an english cast? I did not know he is korean. That would explain it. because he can then translate from korean to english maybe? Could be, though I haven't seen it utilized much so far. I have only watched like 40% of it though. well he translates the interviews and seems to be the one to communicate with kespa. he translates quite a bit actually.
Ok gotcha. I only watch select VODs and almost never the whole broadcast.
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I'm not sure which of the guys it is, (the korean one?) which is REALLY nervous. To the point that he smacks his cocaster to be quiet when the game is starting. Even tho everyone could hear he was done talking =o They need to ease up abit i feel
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On January 28 2013 22:58 mtvacuum wrote:
you can watch live korean stream and vods for free
Can you tell me where? ogn sream and vods on youtube?
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They're just not cut out to be casters. Nothing personal but if you have one arm you probably shouldn't become a boxer. Accent/speech impediment whatever it doesn't matter they're both uninteresting and unprofessional sounding, and they disagree with each other constantly, I will not pay money next season if they are casting.
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