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On January 28 2013 23:29 MateShade wrote:
They're just not cut out to be casters. Nothing personal but if you have one arm you probably shouldn't become a boxer. Accent/speech impediment whatever it doesn't matter they're both uninteresting and unprofessional sounding, and they disagree with each other constantly, I will not pay money next season if they are casting.
As much as I support voting with your money, the ticket is $5. There's no way I'm not going to pay that lol
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SNM certainly has enunciation issues. The debate drill of speaking with a pencil in the mouth to improve clarity and force enunciation might greatly help him.
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On January 29 2013 04:25 TERRANLOL wrote:Show nested quote +On January 28 2013 23:29 MateShade wrote:
They're just not cut out to be casters. Nothing personal but if you have one arm you probably shouldn't become a boxer. Accent/speech impediment whatever it doesn't matter they're both uninteresting and unprofessional sounding, and they disagree with each other constantly, I will not pay money next season if they are casting. As much as I support voting with your money, the ticket is $5. There's no way I'm not going to pay that lol
Tbh, since Korean VODs are free on YT, Youtube is organized better than Twitch, the video stream is exactly the same and I watch on mute anyways, there is no way I'm paying 5$ again. Now, if they had the same with just the game sounds (in English), I'd pay 5$ immediately.
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I actually think SNM is a decently funny guy, but it's hard when you're being stonewalled by your co-caster.
Paraphrasing:
"Not drinking alcohol is considered a crime against the nation in Korea. It can get you arrested."
"No, it's not."
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There does seem to be a bit on animosity, kinda like when Khaldor and moletrap were casting in the GSL. Maybe one (or both) of them see the other person as the problem. Hopefully they can get past that, because at the moment it sure ain't clicking.
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Theyre pretty good casters but if some "established" casters step up, I hope they would be able to switch.
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On January 29 2013 02:18 Doodsmack wrote:Show nested quote +On January 29 2013 01:41 BoZiffer wrote:On January 28 2013 23:29 MateShade wrote:
They're just not cut out to be casters. Nothing personal but if you have one arm you probably shouldn't become a boxer. Accent/speech impediment whatever it doesn't matter they're both uninteresting and unprofessional sounding, and they disagree with each other constantly, I will not pay money next season if they are casting. Well said. The sole predictor of buying another season pass will be if they cast again or not. PL is a big stage and I don't feel they are commensurate with the stage. So if well known casters are unable or unwilling to move to Korea then you're going to take it out on Kespa and SNM/whiplash?
Well, sort of. The motivations behind buying the ticket was HD stream quality with English casting and access to VODs. Since I watch them live, the VODs aren't the motivation, so its HD quality and English casting. I don't listen to the casting anymore and watch on mute (or watch the Korean stream) so yeah, there isn't really much of a reason left to buy the ticket.
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On January 29 2013 04:40 BoZiffer wrote:Show nested quote +On January 29 2013 02:18 Doodsmack wrote:On January 29 2013 01:41 BoZiffer wrote:On January 28 2013 23:29 MateShade wrote:
They're just not cut out to be casters. Nothing personal but if you have one arm you probably shouldn't become a boxer. Accent/speech impediment whatever it doesn't matter they're both uninteresting and unprofessional sounding, and they disagree with each other constantly, I will not pay money next season if they are casting. Well said. The sole predictor of buying another season pass will be if they cast again or not. PL is a big stage and I don't feel they are commensurate with the stage. So if well known casters are unable or unwilling to move to Korea then you're going to take it out on Kespa and SNM/whiplash? Well, sort of. The motivations behind buying the ticket was HD stream quality with English casting and access to VODs. Since I watch them live, the VODs aren't the motivation, so its HD quality and English casting. I don't listen to the casting anymore and watch on mute (or watch the Korean stream) so yeah, there isn't really much of a reason left to buy the ticket.
Plus the free Youtube VODs are 720p, while paid Twitch VODs are 480p only.
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One of them (I honestly didn't know either of them before starting to watch Proleague) just reminds me of HD Starcraft so much. Sooooo unfunny and annoying it's unbearable. His general knowledge also seems to be lacking (I suppose it's SNM and not Whiplash from what I can read on here but I don't care enough to dig and find out.) PL would def benefit from having better casters. Wish Tastosis could do both leagues -.-
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On January 29 2013 04:36 ACrow wrote:Show nested quote +On January 29 2013 04:25 TERRANLOL wrote:On January 28 2013 23:29 MateShade wrote:
They're just not cut out to be casters. Nothing personal but if you have one arm you probably shouldn't become a boxer. Accent/speech impediment whatever it doesn't matter they're both uninteresting and unprofessional sounding, and they disagree with each other constantly, I will not pay money next season if they are casting. As much as I support voting with your money, the ticket is $5. There's no way I'm not going to pay that lol Tbh, since Korean VODs are free on YT, Youtube is organized better than Twitch, the video stream is exactly the same and I watch on mute anyways, there is no way I'm paying 5$ again. Now, if they had the same with just the game sounds (in English), I'd pay 5$ immediately.
Yea this is pretty much how I feel... I bought the 5$ subscription because it's so cheap but I still don't even watch SPL because it's so boring. If they had some exciting casters like Tastosis I might bother myself to watch. But as it is, I'm just going to take advantage of the free YT channel because I only watch like one SPL game every few weeks...
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Truth be told, I stopped watching PL mainly because of my dislike for the casters, mostly SNM, tho it's not only him, whiplash says a lot of wrong stuff.
PL could've been so much better, sad case.
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I really enjoy their casting. I was kind of surprised when I saw all the negative towards them.
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I strongly dislike SNM casting. His commentary detracts from the game, he doesn't seem to understand what's happening most of the time. As others have said, he seems to contradict himself a lot - even within the same sentence. Whiplash seems okay I guess.
Just my 2c.
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I gave up on them when they said "mauraders come out of factories" last night on air
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Heh, it kind of seemed like Whiplash was kind of (figuratively) cannibalizing SNM a bit in the cast last night. Can't blame him to be honest. It's not just SNM's speech impediment, but his game knowledge seems lacking at best. Whiplash might not be much better in that regard. However, he's got a decent voice and I could certainly see him pulling a Doa.*
*Here read as: Getting by initially due to the contrast in voice quality with his fellow caster. [Though personally, I miss KellyMilkies] Though game knowledge may have been lacking initially hard work paid off and he eventually became one of the most respected casters in the business.
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On January 29 2013 05:27 TheDougler wrote:
Heh, it kind of seemed like Whiplash was kind of (figuratively) cannibalizing SNM a bit in the cast last night. Can't blame him to be honest. It's not just SNM's speech impediment, but his game knowledge seems lacking at best. Whiplash might not be much better in that regard. However, he's got a decent voice and I could certainly see him pulling a Doa.*
*Here read as: Getting by initially due to the contrast in voice quality with his fellow caster. [Though personally, I miss KellyMilkies] Though game knowledge may have been lacking initially hard work paid off and he eventually became one of the most respected casters in the business.
Doa is awesome. But you seriously miss KellyMilkies?
Calling Hellions LaceCaws?!
no thank you
o_O
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I only like very few caster atm in the Sc2 scene so I might be very harsh, and I have to say that these guys are probably one of the worst....
everything from broadcasting (talking over each other, mumbeling, coughing into the mic, akward topics, lack of chemistry etc) to game knowledge is really low. I dont think these caster follow the Sc2 scene at all....they seem to know some BW...
Its just seems very sloppy casting to me with very little preparation...They should at least prepare themselves for the games... and do not cast like its a regular skypecall, you actually have an audience.."talk to them"...
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On January 29 2013 05:36 neoghaleon55 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 29 2013 05:27 TheDougler wrote:
Heh, it kind of seemed like Whiplash was kind of (figuratively) cannibalizing SNM a bit in the cast last night. Can't blame him to be honest. It's not just SNM's speech impediment, but his game knowledge seems lacking at best. Whiplash might not be much better in that regard. However, he's got a decent voice and I could certainly see him pulling a Doa.*
*Here read as: Getting by initially due to the contrast in voice quality with his fellow caster. [Though personally, I miss KellyMilkies] Though game knowledge may have been lacking initially hard work paid off and he eventually became one of the most respected casters in the business. Doa is awesome. But you seriously miss KellyMilkies? Calling Hellions LaceCaws?! no thank you o_O
Dude, she was hot 
The KellyMilkies bit is beside the point though. Whiplash could be okay if it wasn't for SNM. Also:
On January 29 2013 05:24 neoghaleon55 wrote:
I gave up on them when they said "mowaudaws come out of factowies" last night on air
FTFY
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SNM does have some speech issues.
Whiplash seems okay except for the fact that he acts like he doesn't really like SNM, which leads to some awkward moments.
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the more i watch the more i like them. Not sure what standard people on TL are using in order to compare their SC casters to, but I think they are fine. Then again I don't watch to listen to casters, I watch to see the games. Kinda like any other sport......
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On January 29 2013 05:45 hangarninetysix wrote:
SNM does have some speech issues.
Whiplash seems okay except for the fact that he acts like he doesn't really like SNM, which leads to some awkward moments.
Can you blame him? This is a major career opportunity for him and it's turning out really bad because he's casting alongside somebody who really shouldn't be there.
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