I agree with (what I'm seeing the majority of people are saying, that Whiplash is doing a better job thus far than SNM. There's definitely room for improvement for the them both, and I hope that they will take any criticism in a constructive manner in order to make the viewing experience more enjoyable.

Pufftrees

2449 Posts

January 28 2013 07:35 GMT

#383

They are getting better

spbelky

United States623 Posts

January 28 2013 07:36 GMT

#384

They either need to get a microphone that doesn't pick up the lip smacking from SNM, or he needs to cut that shit out. Seriously driving me insane.

KimchiNuke

United States25 Posts

January 28 2013 10:12 GMT

#385

At this stage in the game there's basically no excuse for having such shallow insight. People watch these casts to either be entertained or to learn more about the game and these casters aren't doing either.

a_flayer

Netherlands2826 Posts

January 28 2013 10:17 GMT

#386

I don't understand the hate directed specifically at SNM. They're a terrible casting duo, but I'd say they're about equally terrible. SNM has a little more trouble coming up with coherent sentences (although both fumble their lines constantly) and his accent is kinda weird but whatever.

There are moments where you can see they are improving, though, and I think it will be fine towards the end of the season/playoffs (if proleague keeps them for that long).

Fanek

Poland344 Posts

January 28 2013 10:43 GMT

#387

Oh my god, this people commentating THE MOST PRESTIGE LEAGUE on The World?, I can't hear it, only bla blaa blaaa

What's happend with Doa?

On January 28 2013 16:13 HaN- wrote:
Can we get real casters plz?

+1 !!!!!

ThomasR

764 Posts

January 28 2013 10:45 GMT

#388

snm is pretty much as annoying as moletrap

rewired

Canada630 Posts

January 28 2013 10:47 GMT

#389

I dunno I still love SNM just as much as when he was casting BW Pro League games. Go him

Fuchsteufelswild

Australia2028 Posts

January 28 2013 10:58 GMT

#390

I still think moletrap is "over-hated".

Doa would have been good but there was some controversial issue with something he said, I think, I'd like to hear/read it again if someone will post a link for me. (Apparently I don't care enough to search right now) :Þ

I just hope we have better casters next season, that's the main thing. Please though, people, please don't attack the people personally. The main gripe for me is that there are definitely more deserving and suitable people out there who aren't tied up in other casting jobs regularly (so not necessarily 'big' names).

Brett

Australia3821 Posts

January 28 2013 11:04 GMT

#391

Unfortunately these two don't have the sort of personality needed to cover their technical casting (there's nothing wrong with this, most people don't. Simple as that). They either need to significantly improve their game knowledge, and start to push that angle while casting the matches, or they just need to flat out be replaced. Wouldn't care if this were some amateur league, but it's fucking SPL...

Incanus

Canada695 Posts

January 28 2013 11:05 GMT

#392

The main thing that annoys me is when Whiplash says "sentray" instead of "sentry".

TeeTS

Germany2762 Posts

January 28 2013 11:10 GMT

#393

They lack of charisma (the way they speak is very boring) and game knowledge (misjudging even simple situations). They need to improve in at least one part immensely.
It's sad to say, but they have absolutely nothing going for them right now.

ChoDing

United States740 Posts

January 28 2013 11:15 GMT

#394

i think they r better than tasteless

just because tastelss is loved by many sc 2 fans that doesnt mean he is a good caster.
with 'um (x1000 i hear him say -___- so fucking annoying, be professinal and learn2speak)...duhhh...i think...derrrrrrrrr....its gg guys (wtf? then, why the fuck am I watching this game right now....u took away my excitement)' i thought i was hearing some retard trying to cast sc 2 matches.
only because artosis' covers the details of the games, tasteless gets away with his shitty comments and casting.

anyways back to the topic, SNM and whiplash are pretty decent IMO. yea SNM kinda bullshit sometimes, but give that guy some breaks, i think he will be lot better soon.

as for whiplash, he needs to minimize his lil mistakes, such as miscalling names of the player, color of the players, or if TvZ or TvP -___-;;;; lol. if he can fix his minor mistakes, he will be a great caster.

PLUS, SNM needs to say 'AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH' ...idk why he stopped...

yoshi245

United States2971 Posts

January 28 2013 11:24 GMT

#395

On January 28 2013 19:45 ThomasR wrote:
snm is pretty much as annoying as moletrap

Moletrap isn't as bad imo, and while I think SNM has improved a little bit. He still is far below a reasonable standard to be set for an English-speaking proleague caster. Fine if he was purely just a translator. Whiplash is coming into his own and more or less establish an identity I can relate to a bit positively though. That isn't to say Whiplash is infallible, both make their mistakes, but seems like SNM despite all his efforts still fumbles things quite often.

Really wish they'd bring Doa along, whatever the reason, it can't be that bad can it? If he were to replace SNM, that would be a huge improvement.

Loerts

Netherlands7 Posts

January 28 2013 11:25 GMT

#396

Moletrap is a delight to hear when you compare him with these two

theBALLS

Singapore2935 Posts

January 28 2013 11:47 GMT

#397

I don't understand the hate, I really don't. They're not the greatest, but they're not painful to listen to.

lost_artz

United States366 Posts

January 28 2013 12:02 GMT

#398

I would take moletrap and Doa over these two. Also the 2 second lag on the audio to video is rather annoying.

Hell, I would even take Apollo and he literally annoys me to the point of muting him.

d00p

711 Posts

January 28 2013 12:09 GMT

#399

Please don't bring Moletrap into this. Or other casters for that matter. This is about the proleague casting duo who are, imho, improving slowly but steadily. I don't think SNM's probem is an accent. Im' pretty sure it's some kind of speech impediment. He seems to have trouble with the letter "R" and has to put extra effort into it and that affects his overall fluency.

Both need to learn the game inside and out. Before they do, they need to stop making too many calls about what the players are doing. I really hope they are not reading this thread. It's pretty far from constructive. This is borderline hate thread.

edit. Apparently he is korean which could explain the R.

Scarlett`

Canada2392 Posts

January 28 2013 12:14 GMT

#400

On January 28 2013 21:09 d00p wrote:
Please don't bring Moletrap into this. Or other casters for that matter. This is about the proleague casting duo who are, imho, improving slowly but steadily. I don't think SNM's probem is an accent. Im' pretty sure it's some kind of speach impediment. He seems to have trouble with the letter "R" and has to put extra effort into it and that affects his overall fluency.

Both need to learn the game inside and out. Before they do, they need to stop making too many calls about what the players are doing. I really hope they are not reading this thread. It's pretty far from constructive. This is borderline hate thread.

Korean accent does not mean speech impediment @__@