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On October 11 2017 05:50 Gahlo wrote:

Jerry Jones is the owner of the team, so I think he'll be fine with it until the reason slips away as their chances of getting a wildcard spot disappears.

On October 11 2017 05:50 Gahlo wrote:

Jerry Jones is the owner of the team, so I think he'll be fine with it until the reason slips away as their chances of getting a wildcard spot disappears.

On October 11 2017 05:55 IyMoon wrote:


This part right here. All this 'I will bench any player' shit stops the second playoffs come into question.

Nothing is worse for a team than losing

On October 11 2017 05:55 IyMoon wrote:


This part right here. All this 'I will bench any player' shit stops the second playoffs come into question.

Nothing is worse for a team than losing

On October 11 2017 06:01 Logo wrote:


How bad is it though? I read a bit into it and it seems like the NFL teams heavily pool and distribute their profits (fun fact nothing is more American than wealth redistribution apparently) but I couldn't find any sort of exact measure of what it means for the teams. But if it's enough then the negative economic impact from Dallas doing this will be blunted by the revenue pooling.

On October 11 2017 05:48 Gorsameth wrote:
The real issue is not about how legal it is to punish players who protest. Its about whether teams are willing to destroy themselves by benching half their team over said protest.

1 player is easily dealt with. whole groups of them is another matter. That is where the power of player unions and mass protests comes from.

On October 11 2017 06:05 RealityIsKing wrote:


We don't know the player's contract.

Teams might be able to void them with certain conditions.

On October 11 2017 05:59 LegalLord wrote:

Sounds like Russia did the right thing for once. I suppose applause is in order.

God to know I'm missed in the middle of a workday, lol.

On October 11 2017 06:05 RealityIsKing wrote:


We don't know the player's contract.

Teams might be able to void them with certain conditions.

On October 11 2017 06:08 Gorsameth wrote:

Again, same shit. Go fire half your team, see where that gets you. See how the country reacts when you fire all your black players for not bending to the whip.

At least 13 people have died in intense wildfires that have destroyed thousands of buildings in Northern California, where firefighters are battling 17 large blazes in the state's wine country, including Napa and Sonoma counties. Together, they've burned 115,000 acres, according to Cal Fire.

"Nine people have been confirmed killed in Napa and Sonoma counties with fatalities also reported in Mendocino and Yuba counties," member station KQED reports.

Gov. Jerry Brown has declared a state of emergency in at least eight counties, including Napa, Sonoma, and Mendocino. Brown also asked President Trump to issue a major disaster declaration — and around midday Tuesday, Vice President Mike Pence, who is visiting California, said the request had been granted.

"Our hearts and the hearts of every American go out to the families of the 13 who have lost their lives," Pence said. "It's heartbreaking to think that many of the fallen represent our most vulnerable — in some cases, senior citizens who simply were not able to escape the flames that overcame their homes. They're in our prayers."

The Federal Emergency Management Agency says it has approved grants for 10 fires in California to help support local and state agencies responding to the emergencies.

Several fires spread with intense speed after being reported on Sunday. Since then, some 1,500 structures, including hundreds of homes, have been lost. At least two wineries were destroyed; others have been damaged. Napa wineries that were affected include Signorello and William Hill.

Two large fires are raging in or near Napa County: the Tubbs Fire has burned 27,000 acres as of Tuesday morning, and the Atlas Fire had burned 25,000 acres as of Monday night. Fire officials are not offering a containment estimate for those blazes. In Mendocino County, the Redwood Complex fire west of the Mendocino National Forest consumed 21,000 acres. And to the east in Yuba County, the Cascade fire burned 11,500 acres and was 15 percent contained on Tuesday.

In Sonoma County, the city of Santa Rosa has declared a local emergency, citing fire damage as a "public calamity." Mandatory evacuations were declared in several areas; Santa Rosa officials imposed a public curfew lasting from 6:45 p.m. to 7:15 a.m.

"Parts of our city have been devastated," Santa Rosa Mayor Chris Coursey told NPR's David Greene early Tuesday.

Describing the howling winds that drove what been brushfires into roaring wildfires on Sunday night, Coursey says that when evacuation orders went out, "A lot of people had no time at all. It was, 'Grab what you can and run.'"

The massive Tubbs fire started in Napa County late Sunday before spreading into Sonoma County during the night. Coursey described its destructive path:

"It traveled 16 miles in an instant, it seemed like. It just came roaring over the hills, down through some dry brush. [It] hit one of our most expensive housing subdivisions in the hills; went through a commercial area, burned down a couple of hotels, a couple of nice restaurants; hopped over a six-lane freeway; roared through a K-Mart shopping center; and then into a middle-class section ... it was indiscriminate, and it was very, very fast."

The fire consumed the Hilton Sonoma Wine Country, a longtime tourist hub. As seen in a dramatic video by member station KQED's John Sepulvado, the fire ravaged the building even as its sprinkler system kept running.

"It says something that there are not firefighters here trying to put this out," Sepulvado said. "This has essentially been abandoned and left to burn, with the hope that these embers don't spread."

Sepulvado also visited a mobile home park in Santa Rosa that was devastated by the intense fire. As he reports from the scene, the air is filled with the hissing sound of burning gas lines.

Last night, a Pacific Gas and Electric Company representative said the utility had cut gas service to some 30,000 customers in areas affected by the fires. PG&E also said on Monday that roughly 100,000 customers had no power.

Dozens of shelters have been opened to house all of those who fled the fires. As a map from member station KQED shows, a portion of those shelters are now at capacity. Officials are also calling for volunteers to help the Red Cross and other groups serving communities affected by the fire.

Plumes of thick smoke and ash from the fires have also ruined the area's air quality. At 10 a.m. local time Tuesday, the federal AIRNow map showed a large swath of Northern California with red "Unhealthy" air, meaning, as the agency says, "Everyone may begin to experience health effects; members of sensitive groups may experience more serious health effects."

In the federal Air Quality Index, two California cities — Vacaville and San Rafael — had the highest (worst) rating Tuesday, with both areas reporting AQIs of 235 or higher, giving them "Very Unhealthy" status. For reference, a "Good" rating is from 0-50 and a "Moderate" rating is from 51-100. All of the top five U.S. locations with the worst air Tuesday morning were in areas affected by California's wildfires.

The fires have been powered by blasts from strong winds. The Bay Area National Weather Service office says winds began to decrease in many North Bay areas on Monday, and that the region will see lower temperatures and milder winds on Tuesday. But we'll note that the winds in Santa Rosa are still expected to reach 10 mph or higher, and they're expected to strengthen in some areas tomorrow.