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NukeD
Profile Joined October 2010
Croatia1612 Posts
November 09 2016 10:42 GMT
#122221
On November 09 2016 19:36 Penev wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 09 2016 19:35 NukeD wrote:
No, this is a glorious day. This is a much needed wake up call.

explain

Nah sry i wont explain myself. You made us pro Trumpers explain ourselves to death in this thread, while dismissing everything we said with witty remarks and disgust. Well now the tables have turned so please do explain why you think this is a bad thing.
sorry for dem one liners
Disengaged
Profile Joined July 2010
United States6994 Posts
November 09 2016 10:42 GMT
#122222
On November 09 2016 19:39 Scrubwave wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 09 2016 19:37 Disengaged wrote:
I wake up to a god damn nightmare.

This country is doomed.

Better move out then. May I suggest some poor African country?


At this point, anywhere is better then this country.

A racist, bigot, easily angered man child who throws temper tantrums is now the President . . .
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28536 Posts
November 09 2016 10:44 GMT
#122223
On November 09 2016 19:42 NukeD wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 09 2016 19:36 Penev wrote:
On November 09 2016 19:35 NukeD wrote:
No, this is a glorious day. This is a much needed wake up call.

explain

Nah sry i wont explain myself. You made us pro Trumpers explain ourselves to death in this thread, while dismissing everything we said with witty remarks and disgust. Well now the tables have turned so please do explain why you think this is a bad thing.

I did no such thing, I didn't post in this thread before this day

now pls explain
I Protoss winner, could it be?
Scrubwave
Profile Joined July 2010
Poland1786 Posts
November 09 2016 10:44 GMT
#122224
--- Nuked ---
StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
November 09 2016 10:44 GMT
#122225
On November 09 2016 18:40 CorsairHero wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 09 2016 18:30 Orcasgt24 wrote:
Well the world just got alot less predictable...

As a Canadian, I hop his stance on NAFTA is swayed or in some way impossible because if that gets axed....we are in trouble.

Good thing we have a trade agreement with the EU now


Looks pretty darn good now considering if Trump undoes a lot of things the States is going to have a lot of major setbacks.When you make the primary focus about attacking someone else it usually loses you an election more often than not. It's odd because Trump was throwing and slinging just as much mud and it wasn't just against Clinton.
bardtown
Profile Joined June 2011
England2313 Posts
November 09 2016 10:45 GMT
#122226
On November 09 2016 19:42 Disengaged wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 09 2016 19:39 Scrubwave wrote:
On November 09 2016 19:37 Disengaged wrote:
I wake up to a god damn nightmare.

This country is doomed.

Better move out then. May I suggest some poor African country?


At this point, anywhere is better then this country.

A racist, bigot, easily angered man child who throws temper tantrums is now the President . . .


There's still time to accept the error of your ways and reinstate the monarchy.
iXphobos
Profile Joined July 2010
Germany1465 Posts
November 09 2016 10:46 GMT
#122227
So in 2020 we get Kanye then, right?
a_flayer
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Netherlands2826 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-11-09 10:48:04
November 09 2016 10:46 GMT
#122228
On November 09 2016 19:44 StarStruck wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 09 2016 18:40 CorsairHero wrote:
On November 09 2016 18:30 Orcasgt24 wrote:
Well the world just got alot less predictable...

As a Canadian, I hop his stance on NAFTA is swayed or in some way impossible because if that gets axed....we are in trouble.

Good thing we have a trade agreement with the EU now


Looks pretty darn good now considering if Trump undoes a lot of things the States is going to have a lot of major setbacks.When you make the primary focus about attacking someone else it usually loses you an election more often than not. It's odd because Trump was throwing and slinging just as much mud and it wasn't just against Clinton.


His mudslinging regarding the polls was apparently correct. The fact that he praised them when they showed him on the rise slightly means very little, as they were still relatively inaccurate compared to the actual results despite the slight sway in his favour.
When you came along so righteous with a new national hate, so convincing is the ardor of war and of men, it's harder to breathe than to believe you're a friend. The wars at home, the wars abroad, all soaked in blood and lies and fraud.
Laurens
Profile Joined September 2010
Belgium4558 Posts
November 09 2016 10:46 GMT
#122229
On November 09 2016 19:41 Penev wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 09 2016 19:39 Scrubwave wrote:
On November 09 2016 19:37 Disengaged wrote:
I wake up to a god damn nightmare.

This country is doomed.

Better move out then. May I suggest some poor African country?

How about a rich European country? You are welcome in the Netherlands Disengaged


So you're pretty anti-Trump but you would advocate The Netherlands as a good place to run towards for people who don't like him.

That's funny.
Scrubwave
Profile Joined July 2010
Poland1786 Posts
November 09 2016 10:47 GMT
#122230
--- Nuked ---
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28536 Posts
November 09 2016 10:47 GMT
#122231
On November 09 2016 19:46 Laurens wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 09 2016 19:41 Penev wrote:
On November 09 2016 19:39 Scrubwave wrote:
On November 09 2016 19:37 Disengaged wrote:
I wake up to a god damn nightmare.

This country is doomed.

Better move out then. May I suggest some poor African country?

How about a rich European country? You are welcome in the Netherlands Disengaged


So you're pretty anti-Trump but you would advocate The Netherlands as a good place to run towards for people who don't like him.

That's funny.

Explain
I Protoss winner, could it be?
Yoav
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1874 Posts
November 09 2016 10:48 GMT
#122232
On November 09 2016 19:45 bardtown wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 09 2016 19:42 Disengaged wrote:
On November 09 2016 19:39 Scrubwave wrote:
On November 09 2016 19:37 Disengaged wrote:
I wake up to a god damn nightmare.

This country is doomed.

Better move out then. May I suggest some poor African country?


At this point, anywhere is better then this country.

A racist, bigot, easily angered man child who throws temper tantrums is now the President . . .


There's still time to accept the error of your ways and reinstate the monarchy.


Ya know, if Obama proposed that his family become our royal family tomorrow, the proposal would get a lot of traction. We could even run the election every four years, and as long as we still like Obama better than whoever wins them, we can keep him around.
NukeD
Profile Joined October 2010
Croatia1612 Posts
November 09 2016 10:48 GMT
#122233
On November 09 2016 19:44 Penev wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 09 2016 19:42 NukeD wrote:
On November 09 2016 19:36 Penev wrote:
On November 09 2016 19:35 NukeD wrote:
No, this is a glorious day. This is a much needed wake up call.

explain

Nah sry i wont explain myself. You made us pro Trumpers explain ourselves to death in this thread, while dismissing everything we said with witty remarks and disgust. Well now the tables have turned so please do explain why you think this is a bad thing.

I did no such thing, I didn't post in this thread before this day

now pls explain

You are welcome to read trough my posts in this thread.
sorry for dem one liners
bardtown
Profile Joined June 2011
England2313 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-11-09 10:50:16
November 09 2016 10:49 GMT
#122234
On November 09 2016 19:47 Penev wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 09 2016 19:46 Laurens wrote:
On November 09 2016 19:41 Penev wrote:
On November 09 2016 19:39 Scrubwave wrote:
On November 09 2016 19:37 Disengaged wrote:
I wake up to a god damn nightmare.

This country is doomed.

Better move out then. May I suggest some poor African country?

How about a rich European country? You are welcome in the Netherlands Disengaged


So you're pretty anti-Trump but you would advocate The Netherlands as a good place to run towards for people who don't like him.

That's funny.

Explain


Isn't your populist anti-Islamisation movement stronger than that in the US? I mean, it's actually a relevant issue in NL and not just a scapegoat.

Edit: Not fair to call it a scapegoat in the US. But it affects more people on a daily basis in NL.
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28536 Posts
November 09 2016 10:49 GMT
#122235
On November 09 2016 19:48 NukeD wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 09 2016 19:44 Penev wrote:
On November 09 2016 19:42 NukeD wrote:
On November 09 2016 19:36 Penev wrote:
On November 09 2016 19:35 NukeD wrote:
No, this is a glorious day. This is a much needed wake up call.

explain

Nah sry i wont explain myself. You made us pro Trumpers explain ourselves to death in this thread, while dismissing everything we said with witty remarks and disgust. Well now the tables have turned so please do explain why you think this is a bad thing.

I did no such thing, I didn't post in this thread before this day

now pls explain

You are welcome to read trough my posts in this thread.

Or, you know, you could just be nice and answer a question
I Protoss winner, could it be?
RvB
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Netherlands6313 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-11-09 10:52:13
November 09 2016 10:50 GMT
#122236
On November 09 2016 19:36 a_flayer wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 09 2016 19:32 Blisse wrote:
On November 09 2016 19:24 Scrubwave wrote:
On November 09 2016 19:21 Miragee wrote:
On November 09 2016 19:15 iPlaY.NettleS wrote:
On November 09 2016 19:09 Scrubwave wrote:
All those liberal tears.
All that "progressive" salt.
All those impotent celebrities stomping their legs.
All those journalists left with nothing at all.

Christmas came early this year.
Best fap material of '16.

Here's one of my personal favourites
[image loading]


I really can't believe you are celebrating the win of Trump. This is such a sad day. Liberal here, liberal there. Do you know what that term even means?

Just because your dawg didn't win doesn't make it a sad day.
If you think this was a good vs evil election and good lost you need to get your head outta your ass.


Jesus Christ rude much?

I'm with Miragee, i hate this bipartisan notion that being liberal is evil. All it means is being open to new ideas. I absolutely hate that that term is smeared by this left-right anti-intellectual movement.

It's a sad day because we're ending 8 years worth of a solid progressive movement led by Obama, if Trump is actually going to repeal same-sex marriage, for example. Can you really not empathise with people who have something to lose, like TotalBiscuit if Trump repeals Obamacare?


I think you can blame neoliberals for the corruption of that term. It definitely no longer JUST represent "being open to new ideas" if you include that particular group.

What? For one the term neoliberal isn't even used by actual liberals. It's the left in the US who hijcaked the term and made it something else than it is. It has also never been just 'being open to new ideas'.

For the people thinking about buying financial assets now, what specifically are you looking at? Looks like the biggest panic has already settled so it might already be too late.

On November 09 2016 19:49 bardtown wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 09 2016 19:47 Penev wrote:
On November 09 2016 19:46 Laurens wrote:
On November 09 2016 19:41 Penev wrote:
On November 09 2016 19:39 Scrubwave wrote:
On November 09 2016 19:37 Disengaged wrote:
I wake up to a god damn nightmare.

This country is doomed.

Better move out then. May I suggest some poor African country?

How about a rich European country? You are welcome in the Netherlands Disengaged


So you're pretty anti-Trump but you would advocate The Netherlands as a good place to run towards for people who don't like him.

That's funny.

Explain


Isn't your populist anti-Islamisation movement stronger than that in the US? I mean, it's actually a relevant issue in NL and not just a scapegoat.

Edit: Not fair to call it a scapegoat in the US. But it affects more people on a daily basis in NL.

yeah but Wilders will never be able to govern like Trump. Our political landscape is very fractured at the moment and coalitions will always have to be formed. Not to mention that after the last disaster that was Wilders supporting a government nobody wants to rule with him anymore.
Laurens
Profile Joined September 2010
Belgium4558 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-11-09 10:51:58
November 09 2016 10:51 GMT
#122237
On November 09 2016 19:49 bardtown wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 09 2016 19:47 Penev wrote:
On November 09 2016 19:46 Laurens wrote:
On November 09 2016 19:41 Penev wrote:
On November 09 2016 19:39 Scrubwave wrote:
On November 09 2016 19:37 Disengaged wrote:
I wake up to a god damn nightmare.

This country is doomed.

Better move out then. May I suggest some poor African country?

How about a rich European country? You are welcome in the Netherlands Disengaged


So you're pretty anti-Trump but you would advocate The Netherlands as a good place to run towards for people who don't like him.

That's funny.

Explain


Isn't your populist anti-Islamisation movement stronger than that in the US? I mean, it's actually a relevant issue in NL and not just a scapegoat.

Edit: Not fair to call it a scapegoat in the US. But it affects more people on a daily basis in NL.


This.
Not to mention it dates back all the way to 2002, and who knows what would've happened if Fortuyn wasn't assassinated in the week before the elections.

For people who find Trump repulsive there are many superior choices to The Netherlands.
Clonester
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany2808 Posts
November 09 2016 10:53 GMT
#122238
On November 09 2016 19:50 RvB wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 09 2016 19:36 a_flayer wrote:
On November 09 2016 19:32 Blisse wrote:
On November 09 2016 19:24 Scrubwave wrote:
On November 09 2016 19:21 Miragee wrote:
On November 09 2016 19:15 iPlaY.NettleS wrote:
On November 09 2016 19:09 Scrubwave wrote:
All those liberal tears.
All that "progressive" salt.
All those impotent celebrities stomping their legs.
All those journalists left with nothing at all.

Christmas came early this year.
Best fap material of '16.

Here's one of my personal favourites
[image loading]


I really can't believe you are celebrating the win of Trump. This is such a sad day. Liberal here, liberal there. Do you know what that term even means?

Just because your dawg didn't win doesn't make it a sad day.
If you think this was a good vs evil election and good lost you need to get your head outta your ass.


Jesus Christ rude much?

I'm with Miragee, i hate this bipartisan notion that being liberal is evil. All it means is being open to new ideas. I absolutely hate that that term is smeared by this left-right anti-intellectual movement.

It's a sad day because we're ending 8 years worth of a solid progressive movement led by Obama, if Trump is actually going to repeal same-sex marriage, for example. Can you really not empathise with people who have something to lose, like TotalBiscuit if Trump repeals Obamacare?


I think you can blame neoliberals for the corruption of that term. It definitely no longer JUST represent "being open to new ideas" if you include that particular group.

What? For one the term neoliberal isn't even used by actual liberals. It's the left in the US who hijcaked the term and made it something else than it is. It has also never been just 'being open to new ideas'.

For the people thinking about buying financial assets now, what specifically are you looking at? Looks like the biggest panic has already settled so it might already be too late.


Taxes going down, most likely FED will keep the level instead of raising it, massive investment in infrastructure.
Buy everything and be ready to sell when Trump announces that he will nuke Mexico city if they dont pay for the wall.
Bomber, Attacker, DD, SOMEBODY, NiKo, Nex, Spidii
a_flayer
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Netherlands2826 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-11-09 10:54:40
November 09 2016 10:53 GMT
#122239
On November 09 2016 19:50 RvB wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 09 2016 19:36 a_flayer wrote:
On November 09 2016 19:32 Blisse wrote:
On November 09 2016 19:24 Scrubwave wrote:
On November 09 2016 19:21 Miragee wrote:
On November 09 2016 19:15 iPlaY.NettleS wrote:
On November 09 2016 19:09 Scrubwave wrote:
All those liberal tears.
All that "progressive" salt.
All those impotent celebrities stomping their legs.
All those journalists left with nothing at all.

Christmas came early this year.
Best fap material of '16.

Here's one of my personal favourites
[image loading]


I really can't believe you are celebrating the win of Trump. This is such a sad day. Liberal here, liberal there. Do you know what that term even means?

Just because your dawg didn't win doesn't make it a sad day.
If you think this was a good vs evil election and good lost you need to get your head outta your ass.


Jesus Christ rude much?

I'm with Miragee, i hate this bipartisan notion that being liberal is evil. All it means is being open to new ideas. I absolutely hate that that term is smeared by this left-right anti-intellectual movement.

It's a sad day because we're ending 8 years worth of a solid progressive movement led by Obama, if Trump is actually going to repeal same-sex marriage, for example. Can you really not empathise with people who have something to lose, like TotalBiscuit if Trump repeals Obamacare?


I think you can blame neoliberals for the corruption of that term. It definitely no longer JUST represent "being open to new ideas" if you include that particular group.

What? For one the term neoliberal isn't even used by actual liberals. It's the left in the US who hijcaked the term and made it something else than it is. It has also never been just 'being open to new ideas'.

For the people thinking about buying financial assets now, what specifically are you looking at? Looks like the biggest panic has already settled so it might already be too late.


Yeah I realized afterwards that his mention of the word "liberal" was something else entirely and probably had little to do with any political persuasion. Perhaps "broad-minded" is a better description of that definition of "liberal" rather than the political "liberalism".
When you came along so righteous with a new national hate, so convincing is the ardor of war and of men, it's harder to breathe than to believe you're a friend. The wars at home, the wars abroad, all soaked in blood and lies and fraud.
Diavlo
Profile Joined July 2011
Belgium2915 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-11-09 10:57:53
November 09 2016 10:55 GMT
#122240
On November 09 2016 19:37 Clonester wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 09 2016 19:32 Blisse wrote:
On November 09 2016 19:24 Scrubwave wrote:
On November 09 2016 19:21 Miragee wrote:
On November 09 2016 19:15 iPlaY.NettleS wrote:
On November 09 2016 19:09 Scrubwave wrote:
All those liberal tears.
All that "progressive" salt.
All those impotent celebrities stomping their legs.
All those journalists left with nothing at all.

Christmas came early this year.
Best fap material of '16.

Here's one of my personal favourites
[image loading]


I really can't believe you are celebrating the win of Trump. This is such a sad day. Liberal here, liberal there. Do you know what that term even means?

Just because your dawg didn't win doesn't make it a sad day.
If you think this was a good vs evil election and good lost you need to get your head outta your ass.


Jesus Christ rude much?

I'm with Miragee, i hate this bipartisan notion that being liberal is evil. All it means is being open to new ideas. I absolutely hate that that term is smeared by this left-right anti-intellectual movement.

It's a sad day because we're ending 8 years worth of a solid progressive movement led by Obama, if Trump is actually going to repeal same-sex marriage, for example. Can you really not empathise with people who have something to lose, like TotalBiscuit if Trump repeals Obamacare?


The Obamacare that is going downhill has the prizes are going uphill in rapid fashion?
The Obamacare that is disliked by more people then Trump has voters?
The Obamacare that is a failed way of getting health care for everyone?
Trump never said he will vanish Obamacare, he will "replace" it. Whatever it means, it is a chance. Lets see if it works out.

The same-sex marriage will stay as it is, even with one new guy in the supreme court. How does he want to repeal it when the SOTUS said it must exist? Impossible fearmongering.

Every healthcare system in the world is progressively hurting, people are getting older and sicker. The affordable care act is not perfect and needs to be improved upon but it's definitely better than what was in place before it, ask any health care professional. A single payer system most likely was the best option but the idea was never even on the table because of the republicans. I don't see how electing Trump is going to help in any way shape or form the current healthcare status of the US.

As for the impossible fearmongering, maybe same-sex marriage is a bad example, but what about abortion rights or preemptive care? They definitely impact the lives of many and are already suffering from a lot of assault.
"I don't know how many years on this Earth I got left. I'm gonna get real weird with it."
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