• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 18:49
CEST 00:49
KST 07:49
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL21] Ro24 Preview Pt2: News Flash10[ASL21] Ro24 Preview Pt1: New Chaos0Team Liquid Map Contest #22 - Presented by Monster Energy19ByuL: The Forgotten Master of ZvT30Behind the Blue - Team Liquid History Book20
Community News
$5,000 WardiTV TLMC tournament - Presented by Monster Energy3GSL CK: More events planned pending crowdfunding6Weekly Cups (May 30-Apr 5): herO, Clem, SHIN win0[BSL22] RO32 Group Stage5Weekly Cups (March 23-29): herO takes triple6
StarCraft 2
General
JD's Ro24 review Team Liquid Map Contest #22 - Presented by Monster Energy Quebec Clan still alive ? BGE Stara Zagora 2026 cancelled Blizzard Classic Cup @ BlizzCon 2026 - $100k prize pool
Tourneys
$5,000 WardiTV TLMC tournament - Presented by Monster Energy GSL CK: More events planned pending crowdfunding Sea Duckling Open (Global, Bronze-Diamond) Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament RSL Season 4 announced for March-April
Strategy
Custom Maps
[D]RTS in all its shapes and glory <3 [A] Nemrods 1/4 players [M] (2) Frigid Storage
External Content
The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 520 Moving Fees Mutation # 519 Inner Power Mutation # 518 Radiation Zone
Brood War
General
JD's Ro24 review BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ ASL21 General Discussion [BSL22] RO32 Group Stage BW General Discussion
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues Escore Tournament StarCraft Season 2 [ASL21] Ro24 Group F [BSL22] RO32 Group B - Sunday 21:00 CEST
Strategy
Fighting Spirit mining rates Muta micro map competition What's the deal with APM & what's its true value Simple Questions, Simple Answers
Other Games
General Games
Battle Aces/David Kim RTS Megathread Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread General RTS Discussion Thread Starcraft Tabletop Miniature Game Nintendo Switch Thread
Dota 2
The Story of Wings Gaming Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
G2 just beat GenG in First stand
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Vanilla Mini Mafia Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas TL Mafia Community Thread Five o'clock TL Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread The China Politics Thread European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread Trading/Investing Thread
Fan Clubs
The IdrA Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
[Manga] One Piece [Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books Movie Discussion!
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion Cricket [SPORT] Tokyo Olympics 2021 Thread
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
[G] How to Block Livestream Ads
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
How Streamers Inspire Gamers…
TrAiDoS
Broowar part 2
qwaykee
Funny Nicknames
LUCKY_NOOB
Iranian anarchists: organize…
XenOsky
ASL S21 English Commentary…
namkraft
StarCraft improvement
iopq
Electronics
mantequilla
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 2838 users

US Politics Mega-thread - Page 6088

Forum Index > Closed
Post a Reply
Prev 1 6086 6087 6088 6089 6090 10093 Next
Read the rules in the OP before posting, please.

In order to ensure that this thread continues to meet TL standards and follows the proper guidelines, we will be enforcing the rules in the OP more strictly. Be sure to give them a re-read to refresh your memory! The vast majority of you are contributing in a healthy way, keep it up!

NOTE: When providing a source, explain why you feel it is relevant and what purpose it adds to the discussion if it's not obvious.
Also take note that unsubstantiated tweets/posts meant only to rekindle old arguments can result in a mod action.
valaki
Profile Joined June 2009
Hungary2476 Posts
November 09 2016 06:58 GMT
#121741
OP should be renamed to Us Politics Maga-thread

User was warned for this post
ggaemo fan
Laurens
Profile Joined September 2010
Belgium4557 Posts
November 09 2016 06:58 GMT
#121742
What great news to wake up to.

How are the Clinton fans in this thread coping? Where IgnE at? Still only want to discuss one outcome cause Trump is never gonna win?

And how about those polls. Who was the guy that said he would seriously have to revise his system if Trump got over 240 lol. Better start revising. Polls once again shown to be completely useless.

And what about all those celebrities claiming to leave the USA if Trump wins. I wonder how many will actually do it.

Congrats to HRC and the DNC for throwing an election that was almost impossible to lose.
Danglars
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States12133 Posts
November 09 2016 06:58 GMT
#121743
On November 09 2016 15:55 xDaunt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 09 2016 15:48 CorsairHero wrote:
On November 09 2016 15:47 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:

and why isn't she coming?

Maybe an election loss-induced health problem?

Did somebody tell her if it hadn't been for her FOIA-evading emails or ethics-evading Foundation, she'd have been an easy win against Trump and his campaign-by-tweet?
Great armies come from happy zealots, and happy zealots come from California!
TL+ Member
BurningSera
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Ireland19621 Posts
November 09 2016 06:58 GMT
#121744
On November 09 2016 15:57 LegalLord wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 09 2016 15:56 Danglars wrote:
Brexit was economic suicide, Trump was economic suicide. Polling on Brexit was significantly more accurate than polling on the biggest national stage in the world. Can 2016 get any more 2016?

Do you want more 2016-ing or would you rather we just move on?


More please, any day, more.
is 2017, stop being lame, fuck's sakes. 'Can't wait for the rise of the cakes and humanity's last stand tbqh.'
iPlaY.NettleS
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Australia4409 Posts
November 09 2016 06:59 GMT
#121745
looks like Trump could be about to make a speech
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e7PvoI6gvQs
Biff The Understudy
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
France8056 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-11-09 06:59:45
November 09 2016 06:59 GMT
#121746
I thought i would be devastated but that's so crazy that i find it actually a bit funny.

So, 'murica, what now? Pierson for Secretary of State?

That resounding victory of ignorance and intellectual dishonesty reminds me of Asimov famous quote:

"There is a cult of ignorance in the United States, and there has always been. The strain of anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread winding its way through our political and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that 'my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge."
The fellow who is out to burn things up is the counterpart of the fool who thinks he can save the world. The world needs neither to be burned up nor to be saved. The world is, we are. Transients, if we buck it; here to stay if we accept it. ~H.Miller
ZerOCoolSC2
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
9037 Posts
November 09 2016 06:59 GMT
#121747
On November 09 2016 15:56 CosmicSpiral wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 09 2016 15:47 Nyxisto wrote:
The Nixon comparison will only be fair if Trump turns out to be very flexible and pragmatic in office and does actually not follow up on his ideological promises. Which is doubtful.


Trump is an opportunistic narcissist that will say whatever it takes to perpetuate his image, and he's not cognizant enough to form a coherent ideology that can be put into action. At the very least we won't have to worry about him being crafty, which Nixon possessed in spades.

Show nested quote +
On November 09 2016 15:48 Stratos_speAr wrote:
Yea, that's the scary part.

Nearly 50 years ago.

Do we want to take a walk back in time and discuss the state of human rights back then?


Considering that Obama has shamelessly condoned, and encouraged, the use of drones to kill targets without reprisal or public condemnation, the difference may be smaller than you think.

This last comment needs context. It was a choice between invading with people (again) or sparing them lives and even greater condemnation. If the US had that power back then, especially Vietnam, they would have used it as well. It was choice between using drones and not human lives to wage war in an area that didn't ask nor need our intervention.
Furikawari
Profile Joined February 2014
France2522 Posts
November 09 2016 06:59 GMT
#121748
On November 09 2016 15:57 DickMcFanny wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 09 2016 15:51 Furikawari wrote:
Why do I think it's probably better for the rest of the world?


Clinton, of course. We literally can't survive another climate change denier. The Paris Accord is now basically moot.


Climate won't suffer from 4 years delay. I really think trump doesnt know the map outside USA/MEX/CAN :D
Scrubwave
Profile Joined July 2010
Poland1786 Posts
November 09 2016 06:59 GMT
#121749
--- Nuked ---
FiWiFaKi
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Canada9859 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-11-09 07:00:31
November 09 2016 06:59 GMT
#121750
On November 09 2016 15:57 opisska wrote:
Naively taken, for me as an outsider, this result is absolutely absurd. The whole "two bad options" melodrama has been completely fabricated - maybe Hillary wasn't the most loveable candidate, but in any normal place or time, her "terrible flaws" would have been seen as normal features of a career politician. Yet, millions of people got somehow convinced that she is the same "evil" as a guy who boasts about touching women, spits hate about anyone he feels like the given week and generally doesn't seem to be able to run a bicycle, not to mention a country. This is just some enormous feat of marketing, it will be studied for centuries, I am sure of that.

But then I started to learn details about how does America work. For example the whole talk about voter IDs, election availablity etc.. this level of difficulty so many people have voting is totally unreal. I am not sure that americans even realize it, because they are used to it, but there is something terribly wrong with the whole country, if people "can't afford to vote" for this or that reason. I mean, in Czech Republic, you just casually drop by after work to a polling place, of which there are so many everywhere and vote - if there are queues for more than a couple of minute, someone is gonna get yelled at very, very hard.

But the rabbit hole really goes deeper - how come that in one of the most developed, richest and powerful country, there are so many people who struggle to go by every day? Even more interestingly, who managed to convince those people that more of free market capitalism is the solution? How can a right-wing candidate take decisive support from the working class? It does not make any fucking sense. The solution to most of american issue is obviously modern moderate socialism - but nobody sees that! HOW?

I should not really surprised that you guys elected a muppet, after all, we (Czech Rep.) have one as president (luckily, without much of actual power) and several other nearby countries have some elected representatives highly questionable personalities (and the brits voted bloody yes on the most stupid question ever), I am just genuinely surprised that you voted this particular muppet - a rich billionaire who never did anything useful in his life and has no interest in any real social politics.


USA and Czech Republican have about the same voter turnouts, at about 60% of the eligible population. So I don't think your point holds.
In life, the journey is more satisfying than the destination. || .::Entrepreneurship::. Living a few years of your life like most people won't, so that you can spend the rest of your life like most people can't || Mechanical Engineering & Economics Major
Danglars
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States12133 Posts
November 09 2016 07:00 GMT
#121751
On November 09 2016 15:57 LegalLord wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 09 2016 15:56 Danglars wrote:
Brexit was economic suicide, Trump was economic suicide. Polling on Brexit was significantly more accurate than polling on the biggest national stage in the world. Can 2016 get any more 2016?

Do you want more 2016-ing or would you rather we just move on?

The Cubs did win after all. Priebus could step down. Obama could do something memorable.
Great armies come from happy zealots, and happy zealots come from California!
TL+ Member
Blisse
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada3710 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-11-09 07:02:36
November 09 2016 07:01 GMT
#121752
On November 09 2016 15:59 Scrubwave wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 09 2016 15:54 ZerOCoolSC2 wrote:
On November 09 2016 15:53 Scrubwave wrote:
On November 09 2016 15:51 Blisse wrote:
Idk what demographics you guys are, but this is such a spit in the face for so many Hispanics, Blacks, Muslims, minorities, and women

Is that why many, MANY of them voted Trump? They just must be that stupid to even dare not vote how you wished they would, huh?

I don't think that they voted for Trump as much as they just didn't vote.

No, they voted for Trump.
Clearly they're just too stupid to realize what they're doing.

Hey, here's a question- if you think women, Hispanics, blacks, muslims and other minorities are too stupid to vote "properly" what does that make you?


Well I lived in Cali and Washington, again liberal bubbles, and those are the sentiments of my friends and the state. Stop trying to shit on people's experiences.
There is no one like you in the universe.
dAPhREAk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Nauru12397 Posts
November 09 2016 07:01 GMT
#121753
On November 09 2016 15:59 iPlaY.NettleS wrote:
looks like Trump could be about to make a speech

where?
FiWiFaKi
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Canada9859 Posts
November 09 2016 07:01 GMT
#121754
Hillary will not be making a speech tonight.
In life, the journey is more satisfying than the destination. || .::Entrepreneurship::. Living a few years of your life like most people won't, so that you can spend the rest of your life like most people can't || Mechanical Engineering & Economics Major
mierin
Profile Joined August 2010
United States4943 Posts
November 09 2016 07:01 GMT
#121755
On November 09 2016 15:57 opisska wrote:
Naively taken, for me as an outsider, this result is absolutely absurd. The whole "two bad options" melodrama has been completely fabricated - maybe Hillary wasn't the most loveable candidate, but in any normal place or time, her "terrible flaws" would have been seen as normal features of a career politician. Yet, millions of people got somehow convinced that she is the same "evil" as a guy who boasts about touching women, spits hate about anyone he feels like the given week and generally doesn't seem to be able to run a bicycle, not to mention a country. This is just some enormous feat of marketing, it will be studied for centuries, I am sure of that.

But then I started to learn details about how does America work. For example the whole talk about voter IDs, election availablity etc.. this level of difficulty so many people have voting is totally unreal. I am not sure that americans even realize it, because they are used to it, but there is something terribly wrong with the whole country, if people "can't afford to vote" for this or that reason. I mean, in Czech Republic, you just casually drop by after work to a polling place, of which there are so many everywhere and vote - if there are queues for more than a couple of minute, someone is gonna get yelled at very, very hard.

But the rabbit hole really goes deeper - how come that in one of the most developed, richest and powerful country, there are so many people who struggle to go by every day? Even more interestingly, who managed to convince those people that more of free market capitalism is the solution? How can a right-wing candidate take decisive support from the working class? It does not make any fucking sense. The solution to most of american issue is obviously modern moderate socialism - but nobody sees that! HOW?

I should not really surprised that you guys elected a muppet, after all, we (Czech Rep.) have one as president (luckily, without much of actual power) and several other nearby countries have some elected representatives highly questionable personalities (and the brits voted bloody yes on the most stupid question ever), I am just genuinely surprised that you voted this particular muppet - a rich billionaire who never did anything useful in his life and has no interest in any real social politics.


Hard to argue with any of that, tbh.
JD, Stork, Calm, Hyuk Fighting!
FiWiFaKi
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Canada9859 Posts
November 09 2016 07:01 GMT
#121756
In life, the journey is more satisfying than the destination. || .::Entrepreneurship::. Living a few years of your life like most people won't, so that you can spend the rest of your life like most people can't || Mechanical Engineering & Economics Major
acker
Profile Joined September 2010
United States2958 Posts
November 09 2016 07:01 GMT
#121757
On November 09 2016 15:56 CosmicSpiral wrote:
Considering that Obama has shamelessly condoned, and encouraged, the use of drones to kill targets without reprisal or public condemnation, the difference may be smaller than you think.

Assassination of US Citizens on American soil was legal right up until...(George HW Bush?) gave an executive order forbidding it. It was much worse back then.
iPlaY.NettleS
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Australia4409 Posts
November 09 2016 07:02 GMT
#121758
On November 09 2016 16:01 dAPhREAk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 09 2016 15:59 iPlaY.NettleS wrote:
looks like Trump could be about to make a speech

where?


I think they're building up to it now
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e7PvoI6gvQs
Doraemon
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Australia14949 Posts
November 09 2016 07:02 GMT
#121759
how did it come to this, holy shit america.
Do yourself a favour and just STFU
CorsairHero
Profile Joined December 2008
Canada9491 Posts
November 09 2016 07:02 GMT
#121760
On November 09 2016 16:01 FiWiFaKi wrote:
Hillary will not be making a speech tonight.

and people were worried about whether trump was going to accept the results lmao
i dont even...
© Current year.
Prev 1 6086 6087 6088 6089 6090 10093 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
BSL
19:00
RO32 Group A
n0maD vs perroflaco
TerrOr vs ZZZero
MadiNho vs WolFix
DragOn vs LancerX
ZZZero.O223
LiquipediaDiscussion
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
PiGStarcraft187
Ketroc 83
StarCraft: Brood War
Shuttle 402
ZZZero.O 223
910 32
NaDa 12
Dota 2
canceldota147
Heroes of the Storm
Khaldor214
Other Games
gofns22617
summit1g14561
FrodaN2096
ROOTCatZ19
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick897
StarCraft 2
angryscii 36
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 21 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Berry_CruncH61
• RyuSc2 47
• musti20045 42
• HeavenSC 27
• Adnapsc2 24
• davetesta23
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• sooper7s
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
StarCraft: Brood War
• 3DClanTV 34
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
• BSLYoutube
Dota 2
• masondota21846
League of Legends
• Doublelift4270
Other Games
• Scarra184
• tFFMrPink 18
Upcoming Events
Sparkling Tuna Cup
11h 11m
WardiTV Team League
12h 11m
OSC
14h 11m
BSL
20h 11m
Sterling vs Azhi_Dahaki
Napoleon vs Mazur
Jimin vs Nesh
spx vs Strudel
IPSL
20h 11m
Artosis vs TBD
Napoleon vs TBD
Replay Cast
1d 10h
Wardi Open
1d 11h
Afreeca Starleague
1d 11h
Soma vs YSC
Sharp vs sSak
Monday Night Weeklies
1d 17h
Afreeca Starleague
2 days
Snow vs PianO
hero vs Rain
[ Show More ]
GSL
2 days
Replay Cast
3 days
Kung Fu Cup
3 days
The PondCast
4 days
Escore
5 days
Korean StarCraft League
6 days
CranKy Ducklings
6 days
IPSL
6 days
WolFix vs nOmaD
dxtr13 vs Razz
BSL
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Escore Tournament S2: W2
RSL Revival: Season 4
NationLESS Cup

Ongoing

BSL Season 22
ASL Season 21
CSL 2026 SPRING (S20)
IPSL Spring 2026
StarCraft2 Community Team League 2026 Spring
Nations Cup 2026
PGL Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 1
BLAST Open Spring 2026
ESL Pro League S23 Finals
ESL Pro League S23 Stage 1&2
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
IEM Kraków 2026

Upcoming

Escore Tournament S2: W3
Acropolis #4
BSL 22 Non-Korean Championship
CSLAN 4
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
HSC XXIX
uThermal 2v2 2026 Main Event
RSL Revival: Season 5
WardiTV TLMC #16
IEM Cologne Major 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 2
CS Asia Championships 2026
Asian Champions League 2026
IEM Atlanta 2026
PGL Astana 2026
BLAST Rivals Spring 2026
CCT Season 3 Global Finals
IEM Rio 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.