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Hdizz
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada93 Posts
November 09 2016 06:40 GMT
#121701
everyone is making such a big deal about white america but the fact is that hillary did not do as well with minority voters as was anticipated
clickrush
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Switzerland3257 Posts
November 09 2016 06:41 GMT
#121702
The people in both election parties couldn't look more different.
oGsMC: Zealot defense, Stalker attack, Sentry forcefieldu forcefieldu, Marauder die die
BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-11-09 06:42:54
November 09 2016 06:42 GMT
#121703
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
Rebs
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Pakistan10726 Posts
November 09 2016 06:42 GMT
#121704
There was no way she was winning Alaska, also Trumps won already. Its actually quite a bit of a stomp..
acker
Profile Joined September 2010
United States2958 Posts
November 09 2016 06:43 GMT
#121705
When's the concession speech?
iPlaY.NettleS
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Australia4427 Posts
November 09 2016 06:43 GMT
#121706
On November 09 2016 15:34 Nyxisto wrote:
Given the results in PA, Michigan and Wisconsin I don't even think the emails were relevant at all. There is some deep, substantial resentment going on in the white American working class.

People laughed at me but i seriously think that #spiritcooking thing changed a few minds, especially among more religious minorities.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e7PvoI6gvQs
LegalLord
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
United States13779 Posts
November 09 2016 06:43 GMT
#121707
On November 09 2016 15:35 ChristianS wrote:
Boy, there's gonna be a lot of self-righteous Bernie supporters in the next few weeks. And they're gonna be completely wrong, because we have zero reason to think Bernie would have done better, and they're going to refuse to listen to that. So that'll be obnoxious.


On November 09 2016 15:13 LegalLord wrote:
If Bernie won, there would be no FBI investigation, no "my enemy belongs in prison," no DNC rigging, and probably no leaks. He would have been hammered for socialism and for being a hippie who supported dictators, but in contrast to Hillary fewer people would have such a strong visceral reaction to voting against him. I am quite sure he would have won.


My argument to the contrary. I think it would have been enough.
History will sooner or later sweep the European Union away without mercy.
AxiomBlurr
Profile Blog Joined November 2012
786 Posts
November 09 2016 06:43 GMT
#121708
For me, this was always going to be a Trump victory; he invoked the greatest fear, the greatest money and the greatest publicity, i.e. the three realms that are key to the heart of Americality...
Some of my American friends even decided to vote for Trump just to bring the idiocy in America (capital above people, possessions against rights, freedom against social responsibility) to a head, a great white pustulous head that is going to explode during his incumbency. After Trump is impeached America will be great again - but a post Hilary America would just be the same bloody stool it is today.
SupLilSon
Profile Joined October 2011
Malaysia4123 Posts
November 09 2016 06:43 GMT
#121709
On November 09 2016 15:35 ChristianS wrote:
Boy, there's gonna be a lot of self-righteous Bernie supporters in the next few weeks. And they're gonna be completely wrong, because we have zero reason to think Bernie would have done better, and they're going to refuse to listen to that. So that'll be obnoxious.


Of course Bernie would have fared better. Hillary has way too much political baggage. On top of that, Bernie had momentum.
wuhan_clan
Profile Joined April 2012
United States5609 Posts
November 09 2016 06:43 GMT
#121710
Yeah, with Mich, AZ, Wisc all probably going Trump too, this might be not even be close. Everyone was expecting the opposite ...
CosmicSpiral
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States15275 Posts
November 09 2016 06:44 GMT
#121711
On November 09 2016 15:39 Stratos_speAr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 09 2016 15:33 wuhan_clan wrote:
On November 09 2016 15:29 Stratos_speAr wrote:
I find it both telling and depressing that a bunch of mostly white males on this forum are cheering and high-fiving about "causing chaos" and "burning the system down".

Meanwhile, my Facebook feed is completely filled with LGBTQ friends, minorities, and women who are crying and actually fearful for their way of life because of the consequences of this election.

Just waiting for all of the rationalizations and trivializations to roll on in.


I'll say it again. The reality is that people's lives will change very little if at all. It's been great entertainment and should continue to be but it's not the end of the world. Not even close.


You can say it all you want, but it's an ignorant and privileged position to just off-handedly say this so easily. Electing such a bigoted, hateful individual to the presidential office isn't something normal. This isn't just another hand-off of the reigns of power from D->R or vis versa.


Well...we did elect Nixon. Just saying.
WriterWovon man nicht sprechen kann, darüber muß man schweigen.
Danglars
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States12133 Posts
November 09 2016 06:47 GMT
#121712
Trump ahead at the 1% level right now makes it likely the west coast Democratic strongholds put Clinton above in the popular vote.

So for the second time in two decades, the democrats lose the white house while winning a majority of the country's votes. Very likely.
Great armies come from happy zealots, and happy zealots come from California!
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{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
November 09 2016 06:47 GMT
#121713
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
Nyxisto
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany6287 Posts
November 09 2016 06:47 GMT
#121714
The Nixon comparison will only be fair if Trump turns out to be very flexible and pragmatic in office and does actually not follow up on his ideological promises. Which is doubtful.
CorsairHero
Profile Joined December 2008
Canada9491 Posts
November 09 2016 06:48 GMT
#121715
On November 09 2016 15:47 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
https://twitter.com/albamonica/status/796242378516467712

and why isn't she coming?
© Current year.
BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
November 09 2016 06:48 GMT
#121716
So, will Trump give a speech tonight or is it likely in at least several hours before he does it (5 hours or so)?
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
Stratos_speAr
Profile Joined May 2009
United States6959 Posts
November 09 2016 06:48 GMT
#121717
On November 09 2016 15:44 CosmicSpiral wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 09 2016 15:39 Stratos_speAr wrote:
On November 09 2016 15:33 wuhan_clan wrote:
On November 09 2016 15:29 Stratos_speAr wrote:
I find it both telling and depressing that a bunch of mostly white males on this forum are cheering and high-fiving about "causing chaos" and "burning the system down".

Meanwhile, my Facebook feed is completely filled with LGBTQ friends, minorities, and women who are crying and actually fearful for their way of life because of the consequences of this election.

Just waiting for all of the rationalizations and trivializations to roll on in.


I'll say it again. The reality is that people's lives will change very little if at all. It's been great entertainment and should continue to be but it's not the end of the world. Not even close.


You can say it all you want, but it's an ignorant and privileged position to just off-handedly say this so easily. Electing such a bigoted, hateful individual to the presidential office isn't something normal. This isn't just another hand-off of the reigns of power from D->R or vis versa.


Well...we did elect Nixon. Just saying.


Yea, that's the scary part.

Nearly 50 years ago.

Do we want to take a walk back in time and discuss the state of human rights back then?
A sound mind in a sound body, is a short, but full description of a happy state in this World: he that has these two, has little more to wish for; and he that wants either of them, will be little the better for anything else.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
November 09 2016 06:49 GMT
#121718
oh well, I'll take PA being called as the race being called. Time to sleep
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KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States44183 Posts
November 09 2016 06:49 GMT
#121719
On November 09 2016 15:48 Stratos_speAr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 09 2016 15:44 CosmicSpiral wrote:
On November 09 2016 15:39 Stratos_speAr wrote:
On November 09 2016 15:33 wuhan_clan wrote:
On November 09 2016 15:29 Stratos_speAr wrote:
I find it both telling and depressing that a bunch of mostly white males on this forum are cheering and high-fiving about "causing chaos" and "burning the system down".

Meanwhile, my Facebook feed is completely filled with LGBTQ friends, minorities, and women who are crying and actually fearful for their way of life because of the consequences of this election.

Just waiting for all of the rationalizations and trivializations to roll on in.


I'll say it again. The reality is that people's lives will change very little if at all. It's been great entertainment and should continue to be but it's not the end of the world. Not even close.


You can say it all you want, but it's an ignorant and privileged position to just off-handedly say this so easily. Electing such a bigoted, hateful individual to the presidential office isn't something normal. This isn't just another hand-off of the reigns of power from D->R or vis versa.


Well...we did elect Nixon. Just saying.


Yea, that's the scary part.

Nearly 50 years ago.

Do we want to take a walk back in time and discuss the state of human rights back then?

Will be self banning in the morning so posting without fear.

ModeratorThe angels have the phone box
Emnjay808
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States10665 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-11-09 06:49:52
November 09 2016 06:49 GMT
#121720
On November 09 2016 15:49 Toadesstern wrote:
oh well, I'll take PA being called as the race being called. Time to sleep

isnt it morning for you?
Skol
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