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On November 09 2016 15:43 AxiomBlurr wrote:
For me, this was always going to be a Trump victory; he invoked the greatest fear, the greatest money and the greatest publicity, i.e. the three realms that are key to the heart of Americality...
Some of my American friends even decided to vote for Trump just to bring the idiocy in America (capital above people, possessions against rights, freedom against social responsibility) to a head, a great white pustulous head that is going to explode during his incumbency. After Trump is impeached America will be great again - but a post Hilary America would just be the same bloody stool it is today.
Funnily enough, it turns out Clinton invoked the biggest fears. NeverHillary turned out, NeverTrump did not.
The greatest fear, a Clinton presidency.
The greatest money, Clinton raising tens of millions more in campaign money.
The greatest publicity, Clinton's name being in the news for weeks for her emails and foundation.
Fear did win.
On November 09 2016 15:42 Rebs wrote:
There was no way she was winning Alaska, also Trumps won already. Its actually quite a bit of a stomp..
Yep, a stomp. The Clinton firewall broke down. The pollsters have some crumbles to pick up in the models. Like we expect to be told by statistical models if a groundswell of support could push Trump to victory.
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On November 09 2016 15:49 Emnjay808 wrote:Show nested quote +On November 09 2016 15:49 Toadesstern wrote:
oh well, I'll take PA being called as the race being called. Time to sleep isnt it morning for you?
ya man, 8am. Did you write-in like I told you to?
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Why do I think it's probably better for the rest of the world?
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Kellyanne Conway, is actually the biggest hero of this election.
Now we get Katrina Pierson for 4 more years. OH LORD >>>>>
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Idk what demographics you guys are, but this is such a spit in the face for so many Hispanics, Blacks, Muslims, minorities, and women. Like I'm also a minority and I don't get that much flak, but my friends have so many horror stories about this stuff, hate, assault, prejudice. And we all felt like it was going better because of Obama and moving in that progressive direction. I lived in a liberal bubble in the US for a year but all my friends I've made just feel so shit on and unwelcome this entire election. It's just so sad.
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On November 09 2016 15:51 Blisse wrote:
Idk what demographics you guys are, but this is such a spit in the face for so many Hispanics, Blacks, Muslims, minorities, and women. Like I'm also a minority and I don't get that much flak, but my friends have so many horror stories about this stuff, hate, assault, prejudice. And we all felt I like it was going better because we were moving in that progressive direction. I lived in a liberal bubble in the US for a year but all my friends I've made just feel so shit on and unwelcome this entire election. It's just so sad.
I mean I lived in a liberal bubble and for 7 years through college and employment and I still left, people dont know Ive not grown up in NA but even then you had the odd incident here or there, and I felt the resentment growing since the black guy came in office. I didnt think it would get this bad so quickly though. But it is what it is.
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On November 09 2016 15:50 Toadesstern wrote:Show nested quote +On November 09 2016 15:49 Emnjay808 wrote:On November 09 2016 15:49 Toadesstern wrote:
oh well, I'll take PA being called as the race being called. Time to sleep isnt it morning for you? ya man, 8am. Did you write-in like I told you to?
no clue what youre talking about
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So house, senate, and white house are republican now?
We might as well declare the CEOs of Exxon Mobile and Shell to be Supreme Leaders of the World.
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On November 09 2016 15:53 Scrubwave wrote:Show nested quote +On November 09 2016 15:51 Blisse wrote:
Idk what demographics you guys are, but this is such a spit in the face for so many Hispanics, Blacks, Muslims, minorities, and women Is that why many, MANY of them voted Trump? They just must be that stupid to even dare not vote how you wished they would, huh?
I don't think that they voted for Trump as much as they just didn't vote.
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On November 09 2016 15:53 Emnjay808 wrote:Show nested quote +On November 09 2016 15:50 Toadesstern wrote:On November 09 2016 15:49 Emnjay808 wrote:On November 09 2016 15:49 Toadesstern wrote:
oh well, I'll take PA being called as the race being called. Time to sleep isnt it morning for you? ya man, 8am. Did you write-in like I told you to? no clue what youre talking about
you asked me who to vote for hours ago and I told you to just vote something funny on there because your vote doesn't matter anyways 
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On November 09 2016 15:48 CorsairHero wrote:and why isn't she coming?
Maybe an election loss-induced health problem?
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On November 09 2016 15:47 Nyxisto wrote:
The Nixon comparison will only be fair if Trump turns out to be very flexible and pragmatic in office and does actually not follow up on his ideological promises. Which is doubtful.
Trump is an opportunistic narcissist that will say whatever it takes to perpetuate his image, and he's not cognizant enough to form a coherent ideology that can be put into action. At the very least we won't have to worry about him being crafty, which Nixon possessed in spades.
On November 09 2016 15:48 Stratos_speAr wrote:
Yea, that's the scary part.
Nearly 50 years ago.
Do we want to take a walk back in time and discuss the state of human rights back then?
Considering that Obama has shamelessly condoned, and encouraged, the use of drones to kill targets without reprisal or public condemnation, the difference may be smaller than you think.
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Brexit was economic suicide, Trump was economic suicide. Polling on Brexit was significantly more accurate than polling on the biggest national stage in the world. Can 2016 get any more 2016?
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Naively taken, for me as an outsider, this result is absolutely absurd. The whole "two bad options" melodrama has been completely fabricated - maybe Hillary wasn't the most loveable candidate, but in any normal place or time, her "terrible flaws" would have been seen as normal features of a career politician. Yet, millions of people got somehow convinced that she is the same "evil" as a guy who boasts about touching women, spits hate about anyone he feels like the given week and generally doesn't seem to be able to run a bicycle, not to mention a country. This is just some enormous feat of marketing, it will be studied for centuries, I am sure of that.
But then I started to learn details about how does America work. For example the whole talk about voter IDs, election availablity etc.. this level of difficulty so many people have voting is totally unreal. I am not sure that americans even realize it, because they are used to it, but there is something terribly wrong with the whole country, if people "can't afford to vote" for this or that reason. I mean, in Czech Republic, you just casually drop by after work to a polling place, of which there are so many everywhere and vote - if there are queues for more than a couple of minute, someone is gonna get yelled at very, very hard.
But the rabbit hole really goes deeper - how come that in one of the most developed, richest and powerful country, there are so many people who struggle to go by every day? Even more interestingly, who managed to convince those people that more of free market capitalism is the solution? How can a right-wing candidate take decisive support from the working class? It does not make any fucking sense. The solution to most of american issue is obviously modern moderate socialism - but nobody sees that! HOW?
I should not really surprised that you guys elected a muppet, after all, we (Czech Rep.) have one as president (luckily, without much of actual power) and several other nearby countries have some elected representatives highly questionable personalities (and the brits voted bloody yes on the most stupid question ever), I am just genuinely surprised that you voted this particular muppet - a rich billionaire who never did anything useful in his life and has no interest in any real social politics.
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On November 09 2016 15:51 Furikawari wrote:
Why do I think it's probably better for the rest of the world?
Clinton, of course. We literally can't survive another climate change denier. The Paris Accord is now basically moot.
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On November 09 2016 15:56 Danglars wrote:
Brexit was economic suicide, Trump was economic suicide. Polling on Brexit was significantly more accurate than polling on the biggest national stage in the world. Can 2016 get any more 2016?
Do you want more 2016-ing or would you rather we just move on?
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On November 09 2016 15:56 Danglars wrote:
Brexit was economic suicide, Trump was economic suicide. Polling on Brexit was significantly more accurate than polling on the biggest national stage in the world. Can 2016 get any more 2016?
We had this in France several years ago about a EU poll. Polls are about what media want to see, not about the actual opinion.
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