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CorsairHero
Profile Joined December 2008
Canada9491 Posts
November 09 2016 07:03 GMT
#121761
podesta speaking
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{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-11-09 07:03:46
November 09 2016 07:03 GMT
#121762
On November 09 2016 15:59 Furikawari wrote:
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On November 09 2016 15:57 DickMcFanny wrote:
On November 09 2016 15:51 Furikawari wrote:
Why do I think it's probably better for the rest of the world?


Clinton, of course. We literally can't survive another climate change denier. The Paris Accord is now basically moot.


Climate won't suffer from 4 years delay. I really think trump doesnt know the map outside USA/MEX/CAN :D



The rest world will move on towards the goals even China has said they would. It's the US that's fucked oddly enough the Southern States mostly.
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
Deleted User 173346
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
16169 Posts
November 09 2016 07:03 GMT
#121763
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CorsairHero
Profile Joined December 2008
Canada9491 Posts
November 09 2016 07:03 GMT
#121764
podesta telling people to go home LOL
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xDaunt
Profile Joined March 2010
United States17988 Posts
November 09 2016 07:03 GMT
#121765
I find it amusing that they sent Podesta out there, given that his emails were large reason why Hillary lost.
ImbaTosS
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United Kingdom1717 Posts
November 09 2016 07:03 GMT
#121766
Fuck you Donald fucking Trump, you're not fit to be anything.

Fuck you American majority for being such pathetic, short-sighted, money-grubbing morons that you'll make this happen.



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EleGant[AoV]
ZerOCoolSC2
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
9062 Posts
November 09 2016 07:03 GMT
#121767
On November 09 2016 15:59 Scrubwave wrote:
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On November 09 2016 15:54 ZerOCoolSC2 wrote:
On November 09 2016 15:53 Scrubwave wrote:
On November 09 2016 15:51 Blisse wrote:
Idk what demographics you guys are, but this is such a spit in the face for so many Hispanics, Blacks, Muslims, minorities, and women

Is that why many, MANY of them voted Trump? They just must be that stupid to even dare not vote how you wished they would, huh?

I don't think that they voted for Trump as much as they just didn't vote.

No, they voted for Trump.
Clearly they're just too stupid to realize what they're doing.

Hey, here's a question- if you think women, Hispanics, blacks, muslims and other minorities are too stupid to vote "properly" what does that make you?

Where did I question their intellectual capacity to cast a ballot? Don't reach.
Here's a question for you: Are you a minority?
Ghostcom
Profile Joined March 2010
Denmark4783 Posts
November 09 2016 07:04 GMT
#121768
Podesta: "Every vote should count so we won't have any more to say tonight. So go home and get some sleep."
Deleted User 173346
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
16169 Posts
November 09 2016 07:04 GMT
#121769
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Ropid
Profile Joined March 2009
Germany3557 Posts
November 09 2016 07:04 GMT
#121770
On November 09 2016 15:58 Danglars wrote:
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On November 09 2016 15:55 xDaunt wrote:
On November 09 2016 15:48 CorsairHero wrote:
On November 09 2016 15:47 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:

and why isn't she coming?

Maybe an election loss-induced health problem?

Did somebody tell her if it hadn't been for her FOIA-evading emails or ethics-evading Foundation, she'd have been an easy win against Trump and his campaign-by-tweet?

He really did just bullshit his way through the whole thing, didn't he? He travelled from rally to rally and besides that did nothing else really, typed some funny tweets when he was bored.
"My goal is to replace my soul with coffee and become immortal."
GoTuNk!
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Chile4591 Posts
November 09 2016 07:04 GMT
#121771
Will they call wisconsing so I can go to sleep?
acker
Profile Joined September 2010
United States2958 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-11-09 07:04:53
November 09 2016 07:04 GMT
#121772
No concession speech yet, according to Podesta.
mierin
Profile Joined August 2010
United States4943 Posts
November 09 2016 07:04 GMT
#121773
On November 09 2016 16:03 ImbaTosS wrote:
Fuck you Donald fucking Trump, you're not fit to be anything.

Fuck you American majority for being such pathetic, short-sighted, money-grubbing morons that you'll make this happen.



To be fair Clinton might get more votes than Trump.
JD, Stork, Calm, Hyuk Fighting!
opisska
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Poland8852 Posts
November 09 2016 07:04 GMT
#121774
On November 09 2016 15:59 FiWiFaKi wrote:
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On November 09 2016 15:57 opisska wrote:
Naively taken, for me as an outsider, this result is absolutely absurd. The whole "two bad options" melodrama has been completely fabricated - maybe Hillary wasn't the most loveable candidate, but in any normal place or time, her "terrible flaws" would have been seen as normal features of a career politician. Yet, millions of people got somehow convinced that she is the same "evil" as a guy who boasts about touching women, spits hate about anyone he feels like the given week and generally doesn't seem to be able to run a bicycle, not to mention a country. This is just some enormous feat of marketing, it will be studied for centuries, I am sure of that.

But then I started to learn details about how does America work. For example the whole talk about voter IDs, election availablity etc.. this level of difficulty so many people have voting is totally unreal. I am not sure that americans even realize it, because they are used to it, but there is something terribly wrong with the whole country, if people "can't afford to vote" for this or that reason. I mean, in Czech Republic, you just casually drop by after work to a polling place, of which there are so many everywhere and vote - if there are queues for more than a couple of minute, someone is gonna get yelled at very, very hard.

But the rabbit hole really goes deeper - how come that in one of the most developed, richest and powerful country, there are so many people who struggle to go by every day? Even more interestingly, who managed to convince those people that more of free market capitalism is the solution? How can a right-wing candidate take decisive support from the working class? It does not make any fucking sense. The solution to most of american issue is obviously modern moderate socialism - but nobody sees that! HOW?

I should not really surprised that you guys elected a muppet, after all, we (Czech Rep.) have one as president (luckily, without much of actual power) and several other nearby countries have some elected representatives highly questionable personalities (and the brits voted bloody yes on the most stupid question ever), I am just genuinely surprised that you voted this particular muppet - a rich billionaire who never did anything useful in his life and has no interest in any real social politics.


USA and Czech Republican have about the same voter turnouts, at about 60% of the eligible population. So I don't think your point holds.


Because people don't give a shit. The point is that everyone who wants to vote has it enormously easy. That is not the case in the US based on essentially every article I found on the topic. You need to understand that the policy differences between parties that have reasonable chance of getting elected are much smaller here (and generally in Europe) than in the US - and the proportional system also makes the elections less impactful, because it's not all or nothing for one or the other side.

Things like voter IDs have been shown to affect voters highly unevenly, skewing the election results, maybe quite significantly because US elections are brutally close. "People not giving enough shit to vote" is quite a society-wide phenomenon. The turnout for senate elections was like 30 percent the last time around, because nobody even knows what that chamber does (not much, in fact, in our system).
"Jeez, that's far from ideal." - Serral, the king of mild trashtalk
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Introvert
Profile Joined April 2011
United States5000 Posts
November 09 2016 07:05 GMT
#121775
Should someone ask her about accepting the results of the election?
"But, as the conservative understands it, modification of the rules should always reflect, and never impose, a change in the activities and beliefs of those who are subject to them, and should never on any occasion be so great as to destroy the ensemble."
RCMDVA
Profile Joined July 2011
United States708 Posts
November 09 2016 07:05 GMT
#121776
I can't believe they trotted him out there.
acker
Profile Joined September 2010
United States2958 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-11-09 07:05:57
November 09 2016 07:05 GMT
#121777
On November 09 2016 16:04 mierin wrote:
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On November 09 2016 16:03 ImbaTosS wrote:
Fuck you Donald fucking Trump, you're not fit to be anything.

Fuck you American majority for being such pathetic, short-sighted, money-grubbing morons that you'll make this happen.



To be fair Clinton might get more votes than Trump.

Looks like another electoral vote/popular vote split.

On November 09 2016 16:05 Introvert wrote:
Should someone ask her about accepting the results of the election?

I'm guessing she's avoiding a Bush/Gore situation where Gore conceded too early.
LegalLord
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
United States13779 Posts
November 09 2016 07:05 GMT
#121778
On November 09 2016 16:00 Danglars wrote:
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On November 09 2016 15:57 LegalLord wrote:
On November 09 2016 15:56 Danglars wrote:
Brexit was economic suicide, Trump was economic suicide. Polling on Brexit was significantly more accurate than polling on the biggest national stage in the world. Can 2016 get any more 2016?

Do you want more 2016-ing or would you rather we just move on?

The Cubs did win after all. Priebus could step down. Obama could do something memorable.

Turkey could leave NATO, Greece could go bankrupt, Hofer could win in Austria (this one is actually likely), and the Philippines could form an alliance with China and Russia that will defeat the US.
History will sooner or later sweep the European Union away without mercy.
iPlaY.NettleS
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Australia4427 Posts
November 09 2016 07:05 GMT
#121779
DNC just had Podesta do a short speech.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e7PvoI6gvQs
CorsairHero
Profile Joined December 2008
Canada9491 Posts
November 09 2016 07:05 GMT
#121780
On November 09 2016 16:05 Introvert wrote:
Should someone ask her about accepting the results of the election?

someone did and she didnt answer
fox is digging up the clip
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