US Politics Mega-thread - Page 6091

On November 09 2016 16:10 xDaunt wrote:
I just wish that I could be a fly on the wall for Obama's first transition meeting with Trump this week.

On November 09 2016 16:11 TheYango wrote:
So if Gingrich gets to be a part of the Trump administration, does that mean the moonbase dream is still alive?

On November 09 2016 16:11 Leporello wrote:
So the guy who started the "birther" movement is going to take the Presidency after the first black President.

Nothing racist there at all. Idk how I'm going to sleep.

America's best hope is that something can be done over the next couple months that will disqualify Donald's presidency. The voters have put the world at real risk, imo.

Fuck the DNC, too. They took it all for granted.

On November 09 2016 16:07 ChristianS wrote:

An under-appreciated subthread of this electoral cycle: how hard it is to predict a presidential election. We had about as much information as you could possibly ask for to predict an election, short of seeing the results. Hundreds of thousands, if not millions, of interviews with voters going right up to the eve of the election, and still even 538, by far one of the more conservative models in this regard, gave Clinton 70%.

To think that you could predict with any accuracy a hypothetical alternate timeline purely based on a brief knowledge of each individual and their strengths and weaknesses is bordering on absurd.

On November 09 2016 15:57 opisska wrote:
Naively taken, for me as an outsider, this result is absolutely absurd. The whole "two bad options" melodrama has been completely fabricated - maybe Hillary wasn't the most loveable candidate, but in any normal place or time, her "terrible flaws" would have been seen as normal features of a career politician. Yet, millions of people got somehow convinced that she is the same "evil" as a guy who boasts about touching women, spits hate about anyone he feels like the given week and generally doesn't seem to be able to run a bicycle, not to mention a country. This is just some enormous feat of marketing, it will be studied for centuries, I am sure of that.

But then I started to learn details about how does America work. For example the whole talk about voter IDs, election availablity etc.. this level of difficulty so many people have voting is totally unreal. I am not sure that americans even realize it, because they are used to it, but there is something terribly wrong with the whole country, if people "can't afford to vote" for this or that reason. I mean, in Czech Republic, you just casually drop by after work to a polling place, of which there are so many everywhere and vote - if there are queues for more than a couple of minute, someone is gonna get yelled at very, very hard.

But the rabbit hole really goes deeper - how come that in one of the most developed, richest and powerful country, there are so many people who struggle to go by every day? Even more interestingly, who managed to convince those people that more of free market capitalism is the solution? How can a right-wing candidate take decisive support from the working class? It does not make any fucking sense. The solution to most of american issue is obviously modern moderate socialism - but nobody sees that! HOW?

I should not really surprised that you guys elected a muppet, after all, we (Czech Rep.) have one as president (luckily, without much of actual power) and several other nearby countries have some elected representatives highly questionable personalities (and the brits voted bloody yes on the most stupid question ever), I am just genuinely surprised that you voted this particular muppet - a rich billionaire who never did anything useful in his life and has no interest in any real social politics.

On November 09 2016 16:10 xDaunt wrote:
I just wish that I could be a fly on the wall for Obama's first transition meeting with Trump this week.

On November 09 2016 16:10 FiWiFaKi wrote:


A likely explanation is that people are ashamed of telling other people they support Trump, and hence he was underrepresented in the polls.

From the looks of it in popular vote, the polls were 3-4 points off.

On November 09 2016 16:09 WhiteDog wrote:
Can one of you give me approx of the abstention rate ? For my class.

On November 09 2016 16:17 HolydaKing wrote:
Trump already got 269 according to german TV.

On November 09 2016 16:14 Danglars wrote:

First off, this was a major wakeup call, perhaps the last one you'll hear in a while, that
This campaign was always about the lesser of two evils.

For you particularly, but not for the rest of the country, it's also about
It is insanely easy for people to vote.
Trump was an easy choice for the white working class. The Democratic party had empty promises for years, the Republican party mostly the same, and here comes the outsider candidate promising hope and change. + Show Spoiler +

But I promised myself to not go full ham on a naive take. Half the country is waking up to modern journalism and the people they've left behind while saying minorities have been left behind. The reality check is just hitting and they'll STILL claim Clinton was great but America wasn't ready to accept her. So go read the hillbilly elegy, polling on immigration & Syrian refugees & obamacare and grasp why Trump was the better choice of two bad choices.

On November 09 2016 16:16 Silvanel wrote:


I was thinking the same. All this cases of people at work being shuned for openely suporting Trump..

On November 09 2016 16:17 HolydaKing wrote:
Trump already got 269 according to german TV.