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ShoCkeyy
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Silvanel
Poland4769 Posts
I wonder how restrained Trump will be as president compared to Trump candidate and who will advise him (as Bush Jr. shown advisers DO MATTER A LOT). | ||
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JimmiC
Canada22817 Posts
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KwarK
United States44439 Posts
On November 09 2016 16:28 ShoCkeyy wrote: My biggest worry is everyday government workers that will have no job in 2017 because of all the stupid tax cuts... I mean are companies really going to use that extra money to hire more people? Absolutely not.... Job growth will die with Trump. He's not going to cut down spending just because of tax cuts. He'll just drive up the deficit. | ||
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the bear jew
United States3674 Posts
On November 09 2016 16:21 Danglars wrote: Yeah, see, this is exactly the kind of responses that make a protest vote for Trump more worthwhile. Blame racism. Wish some cosmic force will disqualify the election. Predict global doom. With all due respect, the more you act like sore losers the better we feel about our responses to Obama winning. You're the new birther movement. Congratulations. My problem with Mr. Trump, president elect, he ran a racist, anti-semetic campaign. The ad where he talked about the global conspiracy, showed only Jewish people, that's anti-semetic. He said Mexico sends rapists and criminals to the US, facts don't support that. Muslims did not cheer when 9/11 happened, Muslim communities work very, very hard with law enforcement to try to identify people who have been radicalized and stop terror attacks. The misdeeds of the few are blamed on the many. But when a white person commits a terrorist attack, they are the lone wolf. As a Jew, I identify with the Muslim's community's plight, for centuries, the misdeed of one Jew was held against them all. That is how it is for Muslims in America. Mr. Trump ran roughshod over these facts and demonized minorities. I did not vote for him, but Former President Bush, after 9/11 never blamed Muslims at large, he deserves credit for that. It would of been so easy to demonize an entire group but he did not. Mr. Trump bragged about being able to touch any woman, regardless of her feelings, cause he's famous. That's misogyny. For so many Republicans who lament and still say Former President Clinton shamed the office for his affairs, why is Mr. Trump given a free pass? He has a temper and is quick to lash out, not a temperament I want for the leader of our armed forces. He has no set policies, doesn't know anything, which I understand is the appeal, he is the ultimate fuck you to the political establishment, the rich political insiders who profit due to their time in government, who I also hate. But I am vastly skeptical of his ability to do the job. I would love nothing wrong for President Elect Trump to prove me wrong, the challenges this country faces are vast, but I will not be holding my breath. | ||
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bardtown
England2313 Posts
I hope you understand that you are the cause of this  . I'm going to revel in the resentment of people like you who dismiss others so readily, giving their movement exactly what it needs to succeed. | ||
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Danglars
United States12133 Posts
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Leporello
United States2845 Posts
On November 09 2016 16:21 Danglars wrote: Yeah, see, this is exactly the kind of responses that make a protest vote for Trump more worthwhile. Blame racism. Wish some cosmic force will disqualify the election. Predict global doom. With all due respect, the more you act like sore losers the better we feel about our responses to Obama winning. You're the new birther movement. Congratulations. Honestly, your comparison is one of the worst parts of this. You take something that was genuinely and blatantly extremely racist, and do the fucking false equivalency act. Of course, now it's my birther movement. You absolved it with this election. It's now fair and balanced. We're all racists, right? Congratulations. That's certainly one-strike against PC culture. Those poor SJWs sure are going to be mad that you elected the person who made their political career out of asking our first black President for his birth-certificate to actually become the next President. Fucking hell. | ||
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DickMcFanny
Ireland1076 Posts
Senate: Red House: Red White House: Red United States of Exxon Mobile. | ||
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HolydaKing
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prplhz
Denmark8045 Posts
On November 09 2016 16:24 Diavlo wrote: The worst thing is that with the Republican refusing to let Obama appoint a supreme court judge (in an unprecedented way) Trump will get to appoint another conservative one. Looking back at these last few years the best and worst policies in the US were ruled in the Supreme Court (affordable care act, citizen United, etc), one more conservative judge can change everything. Also forget every executive order Obama signed... It's not unprecedented and it's also not illegal. They are not required to hold a hearing or make a decision on the nominee and Obama can retract his nomination any time he wants. They are working within the constitution and as long as they are doing that, it's up to the voters to punish them for doing disagreeable things. But as you can see, the people seem to be with congress on this one. Also, Trump does not want a conservative Supreme Court Justice. Personally, he wants someone who will strike down New York Times Co. vs. Sullivan, someone who is anti 1st amendment. His vice president wants someone who will overrule Roe vs. Wade. They are not interested in conservatism or originalism or textualism at all. Hopefully congress will have the guts to stand up to Trump but I doubt it. In any case, the democracy has spoken. Now lets see what they actually said. This is the first time ever I've felt less safe because of an american president.  | ||
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FiWiFaKi
Canada9859 Posts
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NovaTheFeared
United States7232 Posts
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wuhan_clan
United States5609 Posts
Trump presidency secured. | ||
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KwarK
United States44439 Posts
On November 09 2016 16:30 Danglars wrote: Any Clinton supporters ready to concede faith in 538 and the rest? Romney supporters got raked through the calls for trusting Rasmussen. Can you do it for equality? I don't think anyone is going to go forwards arguing that they didn't fuck up, and in a big way. Florida was in the model but Wisconsin? | ||
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RvB
Netherlands6326 Posts
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vult
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CorsairHero
Canada9491 Posts
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ChristianS
United States3304 Posts
On November 09 2016 16:30 Danglars wrote: Any Clinton supporters ready to concede faith in 538 and the rest? Romney supporters got raked through the calls for trusting Rasmussen. Can you do it for equality? 538 came out looking pretty decent here. There was a polling miss, that's pretty clear; they're a poll aggregator, so that's not their fault. They were very clear about the risk of a polling miss leading up to this election, and wrote a lot defending themselves from critics who said they weren't bullish enough on a Clinton win by saying this was a very real possibility. Polling misses happen, that doesn't mean all of polling is wrong. | ||
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