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Introvert
Profile Joined April 2011
United States4886 Posts
July 28 2016 01:49 GMT
#90781
How many times will Obama use "that's not who we are" tonight? I'm gonna go high single digits.
"But, as the conservative understands it, modification of the rules should always reflect, and never impose, a change in the activities and beliefs of those who are subject to them, and should never on any occasion be so great as to destroy the ensemble."
biology]major
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States2253 Posts
July 28 2016 01:53 GMT
#90782
On July 28 2016 10:49 Introvert wrote:
How many times will Obama use "that's not who we are" tonight? I'm gonna go high single digits.


How about Radical Islam? I'm gonna go with 0.
Question.?
Doodsmack
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7224 Posts
July 28 2016 01:54 GMT
#90783
On July 28 2016 10:53 biology]major wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 28 2016 10:49 Introvert wrote:
How many times will Obama use "that's not who we are" tonight? I'm gonna go high single digits.


How about Radical Islam? I'm gonna go with 0.


I bet there'll be more than 0 bombs dropped on radical islamists.
CosmicSpiral
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States15275 Posts
July 28 2016 01:55 GMT
#90784
Someone check up on GGTemplar. All the extra from this convention might leave him permanently damaged.
WriterWovon man nicht sprechen kann, darüber muß man schweigen.
xDaunt
Profile Joined March 2010
United States17988 Posts
July 28 2016 01:59 GMT
#90785
I like how they chant "dumb" to set the beat of this song.
biology]major
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States2253 Posts
July 28 2016 01:59 GMT
#90786
On July 28 2016 10:54 Doodsmack wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 28 2016 10:53 biology]major wrote:
On July 28 2016 10:49 Introvert wrote:
How many times will Obama use "that's not who we are" tonight? I'm gonna go high single digits.


How about Radical Islam? I'm gonna go with 0.


I bet there'll be more than 0 bombs dropped on radical islamists.


I'd hope so, we can agree on that much
Question.?
Introvert
Profile Joined April 2011
United States4886 Posts
July 28 2016 02:00 GMT
#90787
Donald Trump has made restoring American jobs a centerpiece of his campaign, a pledge he reiterated last week when he accepted the Republican nomination for president: “I’m going to bring our jobs back to Ohio and Pennsylvania and New York and Michigan and all of America,” he said.
This month, Trump is bringing jobs to Florida, as he looks to hire 78 servers, housekeepers, and cooks at his Mar-a-Lago Club in Palm Beach and the nearby Trump National Golf Club, Jupiter.
But instead of making sure those jobs go to Americans, he is seeking to import foreign workers for the positions, which pay $10.17 an hour for housekeepers, $11.13 an hour for servers, and $12.74 for cooks. He filed applications this month claiming he couldn’t find enough Americans to do that work, and is seeking temporary visas to bring in 65 workers at Mar-a-Lago along with another seven waiters and six cooks at the golf club.


Source
"But, as the conservative understands it, modification of the rules should always reflect, and never impose, a change in the activities and beliefs of those who are subject to them, and should never on any occasion be so great as to destroy the ensemble."
ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-07-28 02:02:43
July 28 2016 02:02 GMT
#90788
On July 28 2016 10:47 On_Slaught wrote:
I def have liked the last 3 speeches. Key is that they are people that Trump will have trouble attacking personally. Man, I wish Biden was running. He would run over Trump I feel.

Expect Obama to wreck face later tonight.


biden has certain weaknesses (notably being creepy and saying dumb shit) but trump has them x100
(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻
Doodsmack
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7224 Posts
July 28 2016 02:05 GMT
#90789
On July 28 2016 11:00 Introvert wrote:
Show nested quote +
Donald Trump has made restoring American jobs a centerpiece of his campaign, a pledge he reiterated last week when he accepted the Republican nomination for president: “I’m going to bring our jobs back to Ohio and Pennsylvania and New York and Michigan and all of America,” he said.
This month, Trump is bringing jobs to Florida, as he looks to hire 78 servers, housekeepers, and cooks at his Mar-a-Lago Club in Palm Beach and the nearby Trump National Golf Club, Jupiter.
But instead of making sure those jobs go to Americans, he is seeking to import foreign workers for the positions, which pay $10.17 an hour for housekeepers, $11.13 an hour for servers, and $12.74 for cooks. He filed applications this month claiming he couldn’t find enough Americans to do that work, and is seeking temporary visas to bring in 65 workers at Mar-a-Lago along with another seven waiters and six cooks at the golf club.


Source


Obviously only people with billions in the bank need to pinch pennies on their cooks and servers.
oBlade
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States5846 Posts
July 28 2016 02:12 GMT
#90790
On July 28 2016 11:00 Introvert wrote:
Show nested quote +
Donald Trump has made restoring American jobs a centerpiece of his campaign, a pledge he reiterated last week when he accepted the Republican nomination for president: “I’m going to bring our jobs back to Ohio and Pennsylvania and New York and Michigan and all of America,” he said.
This month, Trump is bringing jobs to Florida, as he looks to hire 78 servers, housekeepers, and cooks at his Mar-a-Lago Club in Palm Beach and the nearby Trump National Golf Club, Jupiter.
But instead of making sure those jobs go to Americans, he is seeking to import foreign workers for the positions, which pay $10.17 an hour for housekeepers, $11.13 an hour for servers, and $12.74 for cooks. He filed applications this month claiming he couldn’t find enough Americans to do that work, and is seeking temporary visas to bring in 65 workers at Mar-a-Lago along with another seven waiters and six cooks at the golf club.


Source

Warren Buffett believes the wealthy's share of taxes should be higher. Warren Buffett doesn't voluntarily donate his fortune to the IRS to keep the government running for a few days. We can't conclude from that that tax reform is a bad idea.
"I read it. You know how to read, you ignorant fuck?" - Andy Dufresne
farvacola
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States18846 Posts
July 28 2016 02:13 GMT
#90791
Donald Trump is not Warren Buffett?
"when the Dead Kennedys found out they had skinhead fans, they literally wrote a song titled 'Nazi Punks Fuck Off'"
Dan HH
Profile Joined July 2012
Romania9165 Posts
July 28 2016 02:15 GMT
#90792
On July 28 2016 11:13 farvacola wrote:
Donald Trump is not Warren Buffett?

He was making an analogy, playing by the current rules doesn't mean that wanting reform is hypocritical.
CosmicSpiral
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States15275 Posts
July 28 2016 02:16 GMT
#90793
On July 28 2016 11:13 farvacola wrote:
Donald Trump is not Warren Buffett?


...show me the birth certificates.
WriterWovon man nicht sprechen kann, darüber muß man schweigen.
xDaunt
Profile Joined March 2010
United States17988 Posts
July 28 2016 02:16 GMT
#90794
I think Scott Adams has it right. Kaine was picked very specifically so as to not show up Hillary.
Introvert
Profile Joined April 2011
United States4886 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-07-28 02:19:39
July 28 2016 02:18 GMT
#90795
On July 28 2016 11:12 oBlade wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 28 2016 11:00 Introvert wrote:
Donald Trump has made restoring American jobs a centerpiece of his campaign, a pledge he reiterated last week when he accepted the Republican nomination for president: “I’m going to bring our jobs back to Ohio and Pennsylvania and New York and Michigan and all of America,” he said.
This month, Trump is bringing jobs to Florida, as he looks to hire 78 servers, housekeepers, and cooks at his Mar-a-Lago Club in Palm Beach and the nearby Trump National Golf Club, Jupiter.
But instead of making sure those jobs go to Americans, he is seeking to import foreign workers for the positions, which pay $10.17 an hour for housekeepers, $11.13 an hour for servers, and $12.74 for cooks. He filed applications this month claiming he couldn’t find enough Americans to do that work, and is seeking temporary visas to bring in 65 workers at Mar-a-Lago along with another seven waiters and six cooks at the golf club.


Source

Warren Buffett believes the wealthy's share of taxes should be higher. Warren Buffett doesn't voluntarily donate his fortune to the IRS to keep the government running for a few days. We can't conclude from that that tax reform is a bad idea.


The difference is, this undercuts his argument.

Or at the very least it makes him look bad. And he's running for President, optics matter.

Edit: I don't blame people for using the laws that are available, but this example isn't merely a "oh, well I want the law changed."
"But, as the conservative understands it, modification of the rules should always reflect, and never impose, a change in the activities and beliefs of those who are subject to them, and should never on any occasion be so great as to destroy the ensemble."
oBlade
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States5846 Posts
July 28 2016 02:19 GMT
#90796
On July 28 2016 11:13 farvacola wrote:
Donald Trump is not Warren Buffett?

If Warren Buffett ran for the presidency on a platform of tax reform, it wouldn't make sense to vote for the other person, who was advocating the opposite of what you wanted, based on the fact that Warren Buffett didn't personally volunteer his fortune to the IRS.
"I read it. You know how to read, you ignorant fuck?" - Andy Dufresne
IgnE
Profile Joined November 2010
United States7681 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-07-28 02:22:10
July 28 2016 02:20 GMT
#90797
On July 28 2016 07:16 CosmicSpiral wrote:
Bernie made it pretty clear that separation of powers isn't taken seriously as a concept these days. The fact that he outright stated it and people cheered hurt my soul.


Maybe it isn't taken seriously because it's a fantasy? What exactly do you think it is other than the founding myth of an apolitical, utopian America? It's an ideal that comes from a bunch of deist hyper-rationalists who, in elevating the divine law of Reason, confused their lawmaking with something like the divine violence of Benjamin. You can't take the politics out of the decisions, it doesn't matter who the judge is.
The unrealistic sound of these propositions is indicative, not of their utopian character, but of the strength of the forces which prevent their realization.
GGTeMpLaR
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States7226 Posts
July 28 2016 02:21 GMT
#90798
What's that cowbell I keep hearing?
Garrl
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Scotland1975 Posts
July 28 2016 02:21 GMT
#90799
must be easy to be an american politician... throw some spiel about how you started from the bottom, mention [state you first won over], liberally mention how great USA is, say something about woman's rights and minority groups, and people eat that up?
xDaunt
Profile Joined March 2010
United States17988 Posts
July 28 2016 02:21 GMT
#90800
The Hispanic pandering is a little thick.
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