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CosmicSpiral
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On July 28 2016 11:20 IgnE wrote: Maybe it isn't taken seriously because it's a fantasy? What exactly do you think it is other than the founding myth of an apolitical, utopian America? It's an ideal that comes from a bunch of deist hyper-rationalists who, in elevating the divine law of Reason, confused their lawmaking with something like the divine violence of Benjamin. You can't take the politics out of the decisions, it doesn't matter who the judge is. I expected them to give lip service to the idea, just as they constantly do for "democracy" (despite the fact that the United States has always been a constitutional republic) and "American exceptionalism". Even if it's an ideal that can never be fulfilled, it should still be one to strive for. | ||
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oBlade
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On July 28 2016 11:29 GGTeMpLaR wrote: I think Kaine is much better VP than Pence but we'll see for sure in their debate I guess Newt would have killed that debate. | ||
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scott31337
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 get DNCLeak/TrumpPlaybook T2S ./TrumpPlaybook | ||
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WhiteDog
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YOU WIN !!! HERE TAKE THE POWER TO BOMB THE SHIT OUT OF THE PLANET !!! "Hillary is lista, she is ready, she will not back down"... Wow NO FAKE ?! SO GOOD ?! Hum and what about actual politics ? | ||
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acker
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If the Democrats can do that, they might pull a California and wipe out the Republicans for the next decade or two. | ||
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Garrl
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On July 28 2016 11:34 GGTeMpLaR wrote: Too much Spanish class they REALLY want that latino vote lol they don't even need to try to do that do they? | ||
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IgnE
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On July 28 2016 11:31 CosmicSpiral wrote: I expected them to give lip service to the idea, just as they constantly do for "democracy" (despite the fact that the United States has always been a constitutional republic) and "American exceptionalism". Even if it's an ideal that can never be fulfilled, it should still be one to strive for. American exceptionalism is just as pernicious as the founding lie of government based on apolitical Reason. | ||
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WhiteDog
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On_Slaught
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On July 28 2016 11:33 xDaunt wrote: The speech has some clever elements, but it is an utter failure on the emotional sale. It's not gonna move the needle. I'm not so sure. Honesty is a huge part of this election and going all in on Trumps dishonesty is a smart move. I think attacking Believe Me could play really well in the long run. Trump really does say it ALL THE FUCKING TIME. This lays the foundation for some easy counters going forward, especially in the debates. Remember when Christie pwned Rubio for repeating answers mid debate? I could easily see Hillary doing the same thing. "Oh, there it is again. Believe me. Believe me. That's all he has." etc. | ||
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acker
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On July 28 2016 11:37 WhiteDog wrote: Hillary is going to talk ? Or I'm going to sleep. Obama's next. Edit: eventually. | ||
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WhiteDog
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On July 28 2016 11:37 On_Slaught wrote: I'm not so sure. Honesty is a huge part of this election and going all in on Trumps dishonesty is a smart move. I think attacking Believe Me could play really well in the long run. Trump really does say it ALL THE FUCKING TIME. This lays the foundation for some easy counters going forward, especially in the debates. Remember when Christie pwned Rubio for repeating answers mid debate? I could easily see Hillary doing the same thing. "Oh, there it is again. Believe me. Believe me. That's all he has." etc. Stupid strategy that could make the dems lose tho... Trump is actually doing a good job talking about real politics, maybe the dem could win if they did that too. | ||
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Introvert
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On July 28 2016 11:37 WhiteDog wrote: Hillary is going to talk ? Or I'm going to sleep. She talks tomorrow. Next we get a lecture from Obama. | ||
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acker
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On July 28 2016 11:39 WhiteDog wrote: Stupid strategy that could make the dems lose tho... Trump is actually doing a good job talking about real politics, maybe the dem could win if they did that too. As opposed to fake politics..? | ||
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