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Doodsmack
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7224 Posts
July 28 2016 02:21 GMT
#90801
On July 28 2016 11:16 xDaunt wrote:
I think Scott Adams has it right. Kaine was picked very specifically so as to not show up Hillary.


He's just likeable and happy, and has solid experience. Safe choice.
farvacola
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States18866 Posts
July 28 2016 02:22 GMT
#90802
On July 28 2016 11:19 oBlade wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 28 2016 11:13 farvacola wrote:
Donald Trump is not Warren Buffett?

If Warren Buffett ran for the presidency on a platform of tax reform, it wouldn't make sense to vote for the other person, who was advocating the opposite of what you wanted, based on the fact that Warren Buffett didn't personally volunteer his fortune to the IRS.

Hiring in visa'd workers is not volunteering one's fortune to the IRS?
"when the Dead Kennedys found out they had skinhead fans, they literally wrote a song titled 'Nazi Punks Fuck Off'"
Nevuk
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States16280 Posts
July 28 2016 02:22 GMT
#90803
On July 28 2016 11:20 IgnE wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 28 2016 07:16 CosmicSpiral wrote:
Bernie made it pretty clear that separation of powers isn't taken seriously as a concept these days. The fact that he outright stated it and people cheered hurt my soul.


Maybe it isn't take seriously because it's a fantasy? What exactly do you think it is other than the founding myth of an apolitical, utopian America? It's an ideal that comes from a bunch of deist hyper-rationalists who, in elevating the divine law of Reason, confused their lawmaking with something like the divine violence of Benjamin. You can't take the politics out of the decisions, it doesn't matter who the judge is.

Separation of powers has always been a joke since Andrew Jackson, and arguably John Adams
acker
Profile Joined September 2010
United States2958 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-07-28 02:23:03
July 28 2016 02:22 GMT
#90804
On July 28 2016 11:21 Garrl wrote:
must be easy to be an american politician... throw some spiel about how you started from the bottom, mention [state you first won over], liberally mention how great USA is, say something about woman's rights and minority groups, and people eat that up?

It's impressive just how many politicians fail this very simple test.
FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
Netherlands30548 Posts
July 28 2016 02:22 GMT
#90805
On July 28 2016 11:21 Garrl wrote:
must be easy to be an american politician... throw some spiel about how you started from the bottom, mention [state you first won over], liberally mention how great USA is, say something about woman's rights and minority groups, and people eat that up?

forgot the military and founding fathers xD
Neosteel Enthusiast
ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
July 28 2016 02:23 GMT
#90806
Kaine was better on Saturday, seems a little off right now
(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻
GGTeMpLaR
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States7226 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-07-28 02:26:17
July 28 2016 02:25 GMT
#90807
Kaine is very personable which is something Hillary's ticket greatly benefits from. It goes a long way to help humanize her I can see why he was picked. He's so ordinary he's realistic.
FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
Netherlands30548 Posts
July 28 2016 02:25 GMT
#90808
This guy is a bit of a muppet
Neosteel Enthusiast
kidleaderr
Profile Joined April 2013
367 Posts
July 28 2016 02:25 GMT
#90809
Donald Lump

LMAO
CorsairHero
Profile Joined December 2008
Canada9491 Posts
July 28 2016 02:26 GMT
#90810
On July 28 2016 11:23 ticklishmusic wrote:
Kaine was better on Saturday, seems a little off right now

comedy night at the dnc
© Current year.
xDaunt
Profile Joined March 2010
United States17988 Posts
July 28 2016 02:27 GMT
#90811
I understand why Hillary picked Kaine, and I don't think that he is necessarily a bad choice. But it clearly is a pick driven largely by Hillary's own limitations. Kaine doesn't really complement Hillary or add anything to the ticket.
IgnE
Profile Joined November 2010
United States7681 Posts
July 28 2016 02:27 GMT
#90812
This is fucking terrible. Why are they talking about Trump?
The unrealistic sound of these propositions is indicative, not of their utopian character, but of the strength of the forces which prevent their realization.
Doodsmack
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7224 Posts
July 28 2016 02:27 GMT
#90813
That's good and legitimate line of attack.
oBlade
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States6304 Posts
July 28 2016 02:27 GMT
#90814
On July 28 2016 11:22 farvacola wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 28 2016 11:19 oBlade wrote:
On July 28 2016 11:13 farvacola wrote:
Donald Trump is not Warren Buffett?

If Warren Buffett ran for the presidency on a platform of tax reform, it wouldn't make sense to vote for the other person, who was advocating the opposite of what you wanted, based on the fact that Warren Buffett didn't personally volunteer his fortune to the IRS.

Hiring in visa'd workers is not volunteering one's fortune to the IRS?

It's an analogy.
"I read it. You know how to read, you ignorant fuck?" - Andy Dufresne
Doodsmack
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7224 Posts
July 28 2016 02:28 GMT
#90815
On July 28 2016 11:27 IgnE wrote:
This is fucking terrible. Why are they talking about Trump?


Because he's the opposing candidate.
xDaunt
Profile Joined March 2010
United States17988 Posts
July 28 2016 02:29 GMT
#90816
On July 28 2016 11:27 IgnE wrote:
This is fucking terrible. Why are they talking about Trump?

Definitely not a good speech.

Speaking of which, which candidate says no to a deal where Trump has to release tax returns and Hillary has to release speech transcripts?
GGTeMpLaR
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States7226 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-07-28 02:30:11
July 28 2016 02:29 GMT
#90817
I think Kaine is much better VP than Pence

but we'll see for sure in their debate I guess
Doodsmack
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7224 Posts
July 28 2016 02:30 GMT
#90818
On July 28 2016 11:29 xDaunt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 28 2016 11:27 IgnE wrote:
This is fucking terrible. Why are they talking about Trump?

Definitely not a good speech.

Speaking of which, which candidate says no to a deal where Trump has to release tax returns and Hillary has to release speech transcripts?


Which candidate in modern history says no to releasing his tax returns?
IgnE
Profile Joined November 2010
United States7681 Posts
July 28 2016 02:30 GMT
#90819
On July 28 2016 11:28 Doodsmack wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 28 2016 11:27 IgnE wrote:
This is fucking terrible. Why are they talking about Trump?


Because he's the opposing candidate.


All this does is set Trump up for a press conference tomorrow responding to this buffoonery.
The unrealistic sound of these propositions is indicative, not of their utopian character, but of the strength of the forces which prevent their realization.
On_Slaught
Profile Joined August 2008
United States12190 Posts
July 28 2016 02:31 GMT
#90820
I think the Believe Me line of attack is pretty clever when compared against situations where he blatantly lied. Plays on an emotionally level, which the Democrats need. #NotOneWord is easy to run with.
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