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On July 28 2016 01:57 Plansix wrote:Show nested quote +On July 28 2016 01:55 zlefin wrote:
It certainly wouldn't be treason; there's a reason they specified the definition of treason in the constitution; to discourage people from throwing the word around (since it's a word people do love to throw around on their enemies). Agreed. Right now it is just wildly improper and not in line with anything the GOP, let alone the US, is on board for.
I'd imagine that many people would think "Well if Hillary is hiding something, we want to know about it!" and not care as much about how they acquire that knowledge though. They probably are happy Russia is helping make the election more transparent 
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On July 28 2016 01:57 On_Slaught wrote:Show nested quote +On July 28 2016 01:54 zeo wrote:On July 28 2016 01:50 On_Slaught wrote:On July 28 2016 01:40 xDaunt wrote:On July 28 2016 01:39 silynxer wrote:On July 28 2016 01:33 xDaunt wrote:On July 28 2016 01:17 silynxer wrote:On July 28 2016 01:13 xDaunt wrote:On July 28 2016 01:10 farvacola wrote:On July 28 2016 01:10 xDaunt wrote:
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And just like that, he has hijacked the newscycle and deprived Hillary of some of the oxygen that she needs to get a convention bounce. That's one way to look at it lol, it could also prove very dumb for Trump. It could, but history strongly suggests otherwise. Teflon Don is a real thing. Can't stump the Trump! If Russia would release the deleted emails tomorrow, as per his request, what would your reaction be? I certainly wouldn't be surprised. Again, let's be real. Every major country has its own cyber-espionage unit that actively fucks with foreign countries. So the implications really don't bother you at all... What implications? That Hillary stupidly exposed national security secrets to hostile interests? That hostile interests actively seek to hack our stuff? Both are clearly already true. The man running for commander and chief of this nation is active asking a foreign power to commit espionage against his political opponents. Not only is this unprecedented, it once again shows his deep lack of maturity to lead this country. Treason is only a problem when Hillary might have done it, eh? This is treason?  He's been saying this for weeks btw It's calling for espionage against his own country. I shouldn't have to connect the dots here.
What? No, it isn't at all. WTF are you guys talking about. You can't construe words to mean whatever you want them to mean so that it fits your narrative.
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On July 28 2016 01:59 LegalLord wrote:Show nested quote +On July 28 2016 01:55 Plansix wrote:On July 28 2016 01:52 LegalLord wrote:On July 28 2016 00:27 xDaunt wrote:
The media is truly apoplectic about this Russia hacking the DNC thing. The reporters won't leave it alone during this press conference. It's a time-honored strategy to, when all else fails, blame the Russians. McCarthy did it. That British MP who said Russia bombed Syria to encourage Brexit did it. The DNC did it. Great way to pretend you aren't responsible for the circumstances that led people to oppose your policies. That card has sort of been overplayed in recent years though, so more and more people start not really caring. However there is definitely a core of people who really desperately want the hate to go on. Madeleine Albright is a good example of that. Trump just said he would recognize Crimea as Russian and lift sanctions. No one is making this shit up. And what's wrong with that? Ukraine is never getting Crimea back and most people were pretty much able to admit this about a month after the fact. And Europe has basically lost the appetite for further sanctions and will lift them as soon as they can politically save face to do so. It might be a solid policy to have better relations with Russia.
It's true that crimea will never go back to ukraine.
Setting a precedent (not sure if that's the correct term) on the other hand is idiotic.
edit: and that's the reason for, regardless of sanctions or not, european governments (and the current, maybe future US gov) will not accept crimea as officially russian.
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On July 28 2016 01:59 LegalLord wrote:Show nested quote +On July 28 2016 01:55 Plansix wrote:On July 28 2016 01:52 LegalLord wrote:On July 28 2016 00:27 xDaunt wrote:
The media is truly apoplectic about this Russia hacking the DNC thing. The reporters won't leave it alone during this press conference. It's a time-honored strategy to, when all else fails, blame the Russians. McCarthy did it. That British MP who said Russia bombed Syria to encourage Brexit did it. The DNC did it. Great way to pretend you aren't responsible for the circumstances that led people to oppose your policies. That card has sort of been overplayed in recent years though, so more and more people start not really caring. However there is definitely a core of people who really desperately want the hate to go on. Madeleine Albright is a good example of that. Trump just said he would recognize Crimea as Russian and lift sanctions. No one is making this shit up. And what's wrong with that? Ukraine is never getting Crimea back and most people were pretty much able to admit this about a month after the fact. And Europe has basically lost the appetite for further sanctions and will lift them as soon as they can politically save face to do so. It might be a solid policy to have better relations with Russia.
I'd be willing to bet about $50 you'd call Obama weak if he didn't respond forcefully to the Crimea invasion, as a deterrence for future actions.
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On July 28 2016 01:51 CobaltBlu wrote:
But the content of the emails aren't that interesting. The DNC certainly misbehaved but nothing really extraordinary in there. Russian government directly attempting to interfere in an American election is big news though. zeo going full press on the emails isn't convincing me otherwise either lol
Hasn't Trump's campaign been caught attempting to tap foreign politicians for funds?
The emails are interesting. Debbie Wasserman Schultz worked on Hillary's campaign in 2008 and the emails show she clearly worked to rig the system in Clinton's favor. Why is this important? Because if you want to plant the next chairman of the Democratic National Committee you need the referral and support of the last chairman, and you do this by offering favors/bribes/positions.
And who was the chairman before DWS (disregarding the interim period before the next chair)? Thats right, Tim Kaine
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On July 28 2016 02:00 travis wrote:Show nested quote +On July 28 2016 01:57 On_Slaught wrote:On July 28 2016 01:54 zeo wrote:On July 28 2016 01:50 On_Slaught wrote:On July 28 2016 01:40 xDaunt wrote:On July 28 2016 01:39 silynxer wrote:On July 28 2016 01:33 xDaunt wrote:On July 28 2016 01:17 silynxer wrote:On July 28 2016 01:13 xDaunt wrote:On July 28 2016 01:10 farvacola wrote:
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That's one way to look at it lol, it could also prove very dumb for Trump. It could, but history strongly suggests otherwise. Teflon Don is a real thing. Can't stump the Trump! If Russia would release the deleted emails tomorrow, as per his request, what would your reaction be? I certainly wouldn't be surprised. Again, let's be real. Every major country has its own cyber-espionage unit that actively fucks with foreign countries. So the implications really don't bother you at all... What implications? That Hillary stupidly exposed national security secrets to hostile interests? That hostile interests actively seek to hack our stuff? Both are clearly already true. The man running for commander and chief of this nation is active asking a foreign power to commit espionage against his political opponents. Not only is this unprecedented, it once again shows his deep lack of maturity to lead this country. Treason is only a problem when Hillary might have done it, eh? https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/758335147183788032This is treason? He's been saying this for weeks btw It's calling for espionage against his own country. I shouldn't have to connect the dots here. What? No, it isn't at all. WTF are you guys talking about. You can't construe words to mean whatever you want them to mean so that it fits your narrative.
It's asking Russia and other countries to infiltrate/ spy on our politicians to obtain secret information... isn't that espionage?
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On July 28 2016 02:02 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:Show nested quote +On July 28 2016 02:00 travis wrote:On July 28 2016 01:57 On_Slaught wrote:On July 28 2016 01:54 zeo wrote:On July 28 2016 01:50 On_Slaught wrote:On July 28 2016 01:40 xDaunt wrote:On July 28 2016 01:39 silynxer wrote:On July 28 2016 01:33 xDaunt wrote:On July 28 2016 01:17 silynxer wrote:On July 28 2016 01:13 xDaunt wrote:
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It could, but history strongly suggests otherwise. Teflon Don is a real thing. Can't stump the Trump! If Russia would release the deleted emails tomorrow, as per his request, what would your reaction be? I certainly wouldn't be surprised. Again, let's be real. Every major country has its own cyber-espionage unit that actively fucks with foreign countries. So the implications really don't bother you at all... What implications? That Hillary stupidly exposed national security secrets to hostile interests? That hostile interests actively seek to hack our stuff? Both are clearly already true. The man running for commander and chief of this nation is active asking a foreign power to commit espionage against his political opponents. Not only is this unprecedented, it once again shows his deep lack of maturity to lead this country. Treason is only a problem when Hillary might have done it, eh? https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/758335147183788032This is treason? He's been saying this for weeks btw It's calling for espionage against his own country. I shouldn't have to connect the dots here. What? No, it isn't at all. WTF are you guys talking about. You can't construe words to mean whatever you want them to mean so that it fits your narrative. It's asking Russia and other countries to infiltrate/ spy on our politicians to obtain secret information... isn't that espionage?
Well, to be fair.. The "asking part", yes. In general, americans shouldn't be too outraged by the idea of other countries spying on your politicians, cough.
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On July 28 2016 02:02 zeo wrote:Show nested quote +On July 28 2016 01:51 CobaltBlu wrote:
But the content of the emails aren't that interesting. The DNC certainly misbehaved but nothing really extraordinary in there. Russian government directly attempting to interfere in an American election is big news though. zeo going full press on the emails isn't convincing me otherwise either lol
Hasn't Trump's campaign been caught attempting to tap foreign politicians for funds? The emails are interesting. Debbie Wasserman Schultz worked on Hillary's campaign in 2008 and the emails show she clearly worked to rig the system in Clinton's favor. Why is this important? Because if you want to plant the next chairman of the Democratic National Committee you need the referral and support of the last chairman, and you do this by offering favors/bribes/positions. And who was the chairman before DWS (disregarding the interim period before the next chair)? Thats right, Tim Kaine
So Russian involvement is a conspiracy theory but this post isn't?
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On July 28 2016 02:00 Doodsmack wrote:Show nested quote +On July 28 2016 01:57 LegalLord wrote:On July 28 2016 01:55 Doodsmack wrote:On July 28 2016 01:52 LegalLord wrote:On July 28 2016 00:27 xDaunt wrote:
The media is truly apoplectic about this Russia hacking the DNC thing. The reporters won't leave it alone during this press conference. It's a time-honored strategy to, when all else fails, blame the Russians. McCarthy did it. That British MP who said Russia bombed Syria to encourage Brexit did it. The DNC did it. Great way to pretend you aren't responsible for the circumstances that led people to oppose your policies. That card has sort of been overplayed in recent years though, so more and more people start not really caring. However there is definitely a core of people who really desperately want the hate to go on. Madeleine Albright is a good example of that. The American intelligence community is saying it too, you know. I'm not saying the Russians didn't do it. It's plausible, and it's also plausible that they didn't. My point is it doesn't matter. Note that the DNC didn't contest the contents of the emails. The emails themselves are genuine. Saying "It's a time-honored strategy to, when all else fails, blame the Russians" is not as neutral as "they may have done it in this instance, or they may not have." And I question whether you'd be saying the same thing if the RNC or Trump campaign were hacked.
It's not the Russians' fault that the emails contain what they do. Spinning this as if it were is in fact blaming the Russians.
I'm much less a fan of the RNC than the DNC, so yes I would be saying the same thing. But I will give the RNC that they seem to have their shit together much better than the DNC under DWS.
On July 28 2016 02:00 m4ini wrote:Show nested quote +On July 28 2016 01:59 LegalLord wrote:On July 28 2016 01:55 Plansix wrote:On July 28 2016 01:52 LegalLord wrote:On July 28 2016 00:27 xDaunt wrote:
The media is truly apoplectic about this Russia hacking the DNC thing. The reporters won't leave it alone during this press conference. It's a time-honored strategy to, when all else fails, blame the Russians. McCarthy did it. That British MP who said Russia bombed Syria to encourage Brexit did it. The DNC did it. Great way to pretend you aren't responsible for the circumstances that led people to oppose your policies. That card has sort of been overplayed in recent years though, so more and more people start not really caring. However there is definitely a core of people who really desperately want the hate to go on. Madeleine Albright is a good example of that. Trump just said he would recognize Crimea as Russian and lift sanctions. No one is making this shit up. And what's wrong with that? Ukraine is never getting Crimea back and most people were pretty much able to admit this about a month after the fact. And Europe has basically lost the appetite for further sanctions and will lift them as soon as they can politically save face to do so. It might be a solid policy to have better relations with Russia. It's true that crimea will never go back to ukraine. Setting a precedent (not sure if that's the correct term) on the other hand is idiotic.
I don't think it's really that. I see it as the fact that no one really wants another Cold War and that being so, you have to normalize relations with Russia eventually. Even Hillary said as much in one debate or other. The real question is, when and how.
On July 28 2016 02:02 Doodsmack wrote:Show nested quote +On July 28 2016 01:59 LegalLord wrote:On July 28 2016 01:55 Plansix wrote:On July 28 2016 01:52 LegalLord wrote:On July 28 2016 00:27 xDaunt wrote:
The media is truly apoplectic about this Russia hacking the DNC thing. The reporters won't leave it alone during this press conference. It's a time-honored strategy to, when all else fails, blame the Russians. McCarthy did it. That British MP who said Russia bombed Syria to encourage Brexit did it. The DNC did it. Great way to pretend you aren't responsible for the circumstances that led people to oppose your policies. That card has sort of been overplayed in recent years though, so more and more people start not really caring. However there is definitely a core of people who really desperately want the hate to go on. Madeleine Albright is a good example of that. Trump just said he would recognize Crimea as Russian and lift sanctions. No one is making this shit up. And what's wrong with that? Ukraine is never getting Crimea back and most people were pretty much able to admit this about a month after the fact. And Europe has basically lost the appetite for further sanctions and will lift them as soon as they can politically save face to do so. It might be a solid policy to have better relations with Russia. I'd be willing to bet about $50 you'd call Obama weak if he didn't respond forcefully to the Crimea invasion, as a deterrence for future actions.
My opinion of Obama is that he is not an FP president and he chose a pretty terrible advisor in Hillary Clinton. That is what it would be regardless of the Ukraine situation.
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"If you have it, could you give it to the FBI?"
- in what way is that asking them to steal the information?
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On July 28 2016 01:59 xDaunt wrote:Show nested quote +On July 28 2016 01:50 On_Slaught wrote:On July 28 2016 01:40 xDaunt wrote:On July 28 2016 01:39 silynxer wrote:On July 28 2016 01:33 xDaunt wrote:On July 28 2016 01:17 silynxer wrote:On July 28 2016 01:13 xDaunt wrote:On July 28 2016 01:10 farvacola wrote:On July 28 2016 01:10 xDaunt wrote:On July 28 2016 01:05 Mohdoo wrote:This is what happens when Trump can't stand someone else being on the spotlight: [quote] Source And just like that, he has hijacked the newscycle and deprived Hillary of some of the oxygen that she needs to get a convention bounce. That's one way to look at it lol, it could also prove very dumb for Trump. It could, but history strongly suggests otherwise. Teflon Don is a real thing. Can't stump the Trump! If Russia would release the deleted emails tomorrow, as per his request, what would your reaction be? I certainly wouldn't be surprised. Again, let's be real. Every major country has its own cyber-espionage unit that actively fucks with foreign countries. So the implications really don't bother you at all... What implications? That Hillary stupidly exposed national security secrets to hostile interests? That hostile interests actively seek to hack our stuff? Both are clearly already true. The man running for commander and chief of this nation is active asking a foreign power to commit espionage against his political opponents. Not only is this unprecedented, it once again shows his deep lack of maturity to lead this country. Treason is only a problem when Hillary might have done it, eh? This is an absurd spin on what Trump said. You may want to take another look at what Trump said.
"Russia, if you are listening, I hope you are able to find the missing 30,000 emails that are missing."
Seriously? He is literally asking the Russians to try and find DNC emails and release them.
The delusion from Trump supporters is getting out of hand. Read my sig.
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On July 28 2016 02:02 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:Show nested quote +On July 28 2016 02:00 travis wrote:On July 28 2016 01:57 On_Slaught wrote:On July 28 2016 01:54 zeo wrote:On July 28 2016 01:50 On_Slaught wrote:On July 28 2016 01:40 xDaunt wrote:On July 28 2016 01:39 silynxer wrote:On July 28 2016 01:33 xDaunt wrote:On July 28 2016 01:17 silynxer wrote:On July 28 2016 01:13 xDaunt wrote:
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It could, but history strongly suggests otherwise. Teflon Don is a real thing. Can't stump the Trump! If Russia would release the deleted emails tomorrow, as per his request, what would your reaction be? I certainly wouldn't be surprised. Again, let's be real. Every major country has its own cyber-espionage unit that actively fucks with foreign countries. So the implications really don't bother you at all... What implications? That Hillary stupidly exposed national security secrets to hostile interests? That hostile interests actively seek to hack our stuff? Both are clearly already true. The man running for commander and chief of this nation is active asking a foreign power to commit espionage against his political opponents. Not only is this unprecedented, it once again shows his deep lack of maturity to lead this country. Treason is only a problem when Hillary might have done it, eh? https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/758335147183788032This is treason? He's been saying this for weeks btw It's calling for espionage against his own country. I shouldn't have to connect the dots here. What? No, it isn't at all. WTF are you guys talking about. You can't construe words to mean whatever you want them to mean so that it fits your narrative. It's asking Russia and other countries to infiltrate/ spy on our politicians to obtain secret information... isn't that espionage?
Yes, but that's not what Trump did.
Goddamned, you guys are going crazy!
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I don't think it's really that. I see it as the fact that no one really wants another Cold War and that being so, you have to normalize relations with Russia eventually. Even Hillary said as much in one debate or other. The real question is, when and how.
Oh i don't disagree that the relations with russia have to and will normalize eventually. That can and will happen, without recognizing crimea as russian, though.
edit: see israel as an example.
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On July 28 2016 02:04 Doodsmack wrote:Show nested quote +On July 28 2016 02:02 zeo wrote:On July 28 2016 01:51 CobaltBlu wrote:
But the content of the emails aren't that interesting. The DNC certainly misbehaved but nothing really extraordinary in there. Russian government directly attempting to interfere in an American election is big news though. zeo going full press on the emails isn't convincing me otherwise either lol
Hasn't Trump's campaign been caught attempting to tap foreign politicians for funds? The emails are interesting. Debbie Wasserman Schultz worked on Hillary's campaign in 2008 and the emails show she clearly worked to rig the system in Clinton's favor. Why is this important? Because if you want to plant the next chairman of the Democratic National Committee you need the referral and support of the last chairman, and you do this by offering favors/bribes/positions. And who was the chairman before DWS (disregarding the interim period before the next chair)? Thats right, Tim Kaine So Russian involvement is a conspiracy theory but this post isn't?
There is clear evidence that Debbie Wasserman Schultz rigged the Democrat primaries, there is no evidence of Russia's involvement other than unnamed 'experts' and Democrat politicians.
Tim Kaine is only getting what was obviously promised to him in exchange for letting Hillary rig the primaries.
The RNC also tried to rig their primaries but they failed miserably, politicians involved with rigging the Republican primaries are already being punished while the DNC establishment is rolling in their kickbacks.
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On July 28 2016 02:04 m4ini wrote:Show nested quote +On July 28 2016 02:02 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:On July 28 2016 02:00 travis wrote:On July 28 2016 01:57 On_Slaught wrote:On July 28 2016 01:54 zeo wrote:On July 28 2016 01:50 On_Slaught wrote:On July 28 2016 01:40 xDaunt wrote:On July 28 2016 01:39 silynxer wrote:On July 28 2016 01:33 xDaunt wrote:On July 28 2016 01:17 silynxer wrote:
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If Russia would release the deleted emails tomorrow, as per his request, what would your reaction be? I certainly wouldn't be surprised. Again, let's be real. Every major country has its own cyber-espionage unit that actively fucks with foreign countries. So the implications really don't bother you at all... What implications? That Hillary stupidly exposed national security secrets to hostile interests? That hostile interests actively seek to hack our stuff? Both are clearly already true. The man running for commander and chief of this nation is active asking a foreign power to commit espionage against his political opponents. Not only is this unprecedented, it once again shows his deep lack of maturity to lead this country. Treason is only a problem when Hillary might have done it, eh? https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/758335147183788032This is treason? He's been saying this for weeks btw It's calling for espionage against his own country. I shouldn't have to connect the dots here. What? No, it isn't at all. WTF are you guys talking about. You can't construe words to mean whatever you want them to mean so that it fits your narrative. It's asking Russia and other countries to infiltrate/ spy on our politicians to obtain secret information... isn't that espionage? Well, to be fair.. The "asking part", yes. In general, americans shouldn't be too outraged by the idea of other countries spying on your politicians, cough.
Oh of course, everyone is spying on everyone, especially us on others. But it's rather brazen and cavalier to so causally condone it on our own government, which is what Trump is doing.
On July 28 2016 02:05 travis wrote:
"If you have it, could you give it to the FBI?"
- in what way is that asking them to steal the information?
...seriously? You think Russia's just going to casually check their Inbox and find that they accidentally obtained all the secret information without doing formal espionage? It's very obvious, what Trump is saying.
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On July 28 2016 02:07 zeo wrote:Show nested quote +On July 28 2016 02:04 Doodsmack wrote:On July 28 2016 02:02 zeo wrote:On July 28 2016 01:51 CobaltBlu wrote:
But the content of the emails aren't that interesting. The DNC certainly misbehaved but nothing really extraordinary in there. Russian government directly attempting to interfere in an American election is big news though. zeo going full press on the emails isn't convincing me otherwise either lol
Hasn't Trump's campaign been caught attempting to tap foreign politicians for funds? The emails are interesting. Debbie Wasserman Schultz worked on Hillary's campaign in 2008 and the emails show she clearly worked to rig the system in Clinton's favor. Why is this important? Because if you want to plant the next chairman of the Democratic National Committee you need the referral and support of the last chairman, and you do this by offering favors/bribes/positions. And who was the chairman before DWS (disregarding the interim period before the next chair)? Thats right, Tim Kaine So Russian involvement is a conspiracy theory but this post isn't? There is clear evidence that Debbie Wasserman Schultz rigged the Democrat primaries, there is no evidence of Russia's involvement other than unnamed 'experts' and Democrat politicians. Tim Kaine is only getting what was obviously promised to him in exchange for letting Hillary rig the primaries.
There is no evidence of election fraud in those emails.
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On July 28 2016 02:06 xDaunt wrote:Show nested quote +On July 28 2016 02:02 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:On July 28 2016 02:00 travis wrote:On July 28 2016 01:57 On_Slaught wrote:On July 28 2016 01:54 zeo wrote:On July 28 2016 01:50 On_Slaught wrote:On July 28 2016 01:40 xDaunt wrote:On July 28 2016 01:39 silynxer wrote:On July 28 2016 01:33 xDaunt wrote:On July 28 2016 01:17 silynxer wrote:
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If Russia would release the deleted emails tomorrow, as per his request, what would your reaction be? I certainly wouldn't be surprised. Again, let's be real. Every major country has its own cyber-espionage unit that actively fucks with foreign countries. So the implications really don't bother you at all... What implications? That Hillary stupidly exposed national security secrets to hostile interests? That hostile interests actively seek to hack our stuff? Both are clearly already true. The man running for commander and chief of this nation is active asking a foreign power to commit espionage against his political opponents. Not only is this unprecedented, it once again shows his deep lack of maturity to lead this country. Treason is only a problem when Hillary might have done it, eh? https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/758335147183788032This is treason? He's been saying this for weeks btw It's calling for espionage against his own country. I shouldn't have to connect the dots here. What? No, it isn't at all. WTF are you guys talking about. You can't construe words to mean whatever you want them to mean so that it fits your narrative. It's asking Russia and other countries to infiltrate/ spy on our politicians to obtain secret information... isn't that espionage? Yes, but that's not what Trump did. Goddamned, you guys are going crazy!
Yes, that's what Trump did.
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On July 28 2016 02:04 LegalLord wrote:
It's not the Russians' fault that the emails contain what they do. Spinning this as if it were is in fact blaming the Russians.
You're conflating blaming the Russians for the hack and blaming them for the content of the emails.
On July 28 2016 02:04 LegalLord wrote:
My opinion of Obama is that he is not an FP president and he chose a pretty terrible advisor in Hillary Clinton. That is what it would be regardless of the Ukraine situation.
Beside the point of whether you'd criticize him for being weak on Crimea.
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On July 28 2016 02:07 m4ini wrote:Show nested quote +I don't think it's really that. I see it as the fact that no one really wants another Cold War and that being so, you have to normalize relations with Russia eventually. Even Hillary said as much in one debate or other. The real question is, when and how.
Oh i don't disagree that the relations with russia have to and will normalize eventually. That can and will happen, without recognizing crimea as russian, though. edit: see israel as an example.
It might take 2 years, it might take 30 like it took to recognize the USSR. It will happen eventually, probably in a big "it's time to accept political realities" moment.
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On July 28 2016 02:07 zeo wrote:Show nested quote +On July 28 2016 02:04 Doodsmack wrote:On July 28 2016 02:02 zeo wrote:On July 28 2016 01:51 CobaltBlu wrote:
But the content of the emails aren't that interesting. The DNC certainly misbehaved but nothing really extraordinary in there. Russian government directly attempting to interfere in an American election is big news though. zeo going full press on the emails isn't convincing me otherwise either lol
Hasn't Trump's campaign been caught attempting to tap foreign politicians for funds? The emails are interesting. Debbie Wasserman Schultz worked on Hillary's campaign in 2008 and the emails show she clearly worked to rig the system in Clinton's favor. Why is this important? Because if you want to plant the next chairman of the Democratic National Committee you need the referral and support of the last chairman, and you do this by offering favors/bribes/positions. And who was the chairman before DWS (disregarding the interim period before the next chair)? Thats right, Tim Kaine So Russian involvement is a conspiracy theory but this post isn't? There is clear evidence that Debbie Wasserman Schultz rigged the Democrat primaries, there is no evidence of Russia's involvement other than unnamed 'experts' and Democrat politicians. Tim Kaine is only getting what was obviously promised to him in exchange for letting Hillary rig the primaries. The RNC also tried to rig their primaries but they failed miserably, politicians involved with rigging the Republican primaries are already being punished while the DNC establishment is rolling in their kickbacks.
Yes, those unnamed experts (by which you mean the American intelligence community consensus and CrowdStrike) can't be trusted.
And your theory is not a conspiracy theory, it's just "obvious". Gotcha.
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