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On July 28 2016 01:31 Falling wrote:
So I see Trump looped in the Bernardino and Orlando shootings as examples of bad people coming into our country... except those were their parents that immigrated to the country. The shooters were first generation immigrants, sure, but how do you vet for when children who are born and bred in America go bad?
What you are seeing is Trump answering questions from reporters, something Clinton hasn't done in 235 days and counting. I would really love to hear her say anything about anything, hell even planted questions! Barely anyone voting Hillary has heard her talk about any issue.
The first debate is on September 26th, thats way too far away to wait for her to answer questions.
edit: Actually I'm sure a few Democrat voters have watched the primary debates but I'd love to see reporters go out on the street and find people that know something about Hillary's platform other than 'I'm a woman and I'm not Trump'.
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On July 28 2016 01:35 Gorsameth wrote:Show nested quote +On July 28 2016 01:33 Cowboy24 wrote:On July 28 2016 01:29 Gorsameth wrote:On July 28 2016 01:27 Cowboy24 wrote:On July 28 2016 01:21 Mohdoo wrote:On July 28 2016 01:19 Cowboy24 wrote:
NATO is the United States defending people so they don't have to defend themselves. They should pay for all of it. It's not our borders we're defending. In your eyes, why was NATO created? Probably to counteract whatever international alliances the Soviets were building and to create a nice fat buffer zone between Russia and Western Europe. It just isn't very good policy now, in my opinion. Getting involved in European land-wars happened and I'm not going to re-litigate the past and say it was a mistake then, but going forward it would be a mistake to continue. What do I care if Eastern Europe is too weak to protect their own borders? If Putin wants it and he can take it, let him. None of my business. Hell, if he wants Western Europe, none of my business and besides, he'd probably do better than most of the current fools who run things over there. Europe should either start paying for our defense or paying for their own defense. I'm tired of sending American boys to die protecting European socialists. Which is funny since none of the conflicts in which Americans are dying were initiated by Europe. They were all done by America. You realize that the number of European soldiers dying in American conflicts is infinitely greater right? Not that hard tho since you need a number greater then 0... 600,000 US soldiers died in WW2. Now, granted, some of those were in the Pacific, however... We were talking about NATO. It didn't exist until after WW2. Please try again to tho. Your worth a good laugh.
Do you know why NATO was created? As in, the events that led to it's creation?
Do you know why there were thousands of American troops to be stationed in Europe? Do you know why the Soviet Union had no competition in Western Europe anymore, and so was a legitimate threat for domination?
Anyway, exactly zero of these replies have been anything even remotely close to acceptable discourse among adults.
"Someone disagrees with me! FUCK THEM! THEY ARE STUPID!"
Grow up.
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On July 28 2016 01:33 Cowboy24 wrote:Show nested quote +On July 28 2016 01:29 Gorsameth wrote:On July 28 2016 01:27 Cowboy24 wrote:On July 28 2016 01:21 Mohdoo wrote:On July 28 2016 01:19 Cowboy24 wrote:
NATO is the United States defending people so they don't have to defend themselves. They should pay for all of it. It's not our borders we're defending. In your eyes, why was NATO created? Probably to counteract whatever international alliances the Soviets were building and to create a nice fat buffer zone between Russia and Western Europe. It just isn't very good policy now, in my opinion. Getting involved in European land-wars happened and I'm not going to re-litigate the past and say it was a mistake then, but going forward it would be a mistake to continue. What do I care if Eastern Europe is too weak to protect their own borders? If Putin wants it and he can take it, let him. None of my business. Hell, if he wants Western Europe, none of my business and besides, he'd probably do better than most of the current fools who run things over there. Europe should either start paying for our defense or paying for their own defense. I'm tired of sending American boys to die protecting European socialists. Which is funny since none of the conflicts in which Americans are dying were initiated by Europe. They were all done by America. You realize that the number of European soldiers dying in American conflicts is infinitely greater right? Not that hard tho since you need a number greater then 0... 600,000 US soldiers died in WW2. Now, granted, some of those were in the Pacific, however... Show nested quote +On July 28 2016 01:28 m4ini wrote:Europe should either start paying for our defense or paying for their own defense. I'm tired of sending American boys to die protecting European socialists.
bah, not worth it No, go ahead keep it up. Here's my response: When your country loses six-hundred thousand men fighting in Utah to save us from robo-Hitler, you can talk. Until then, I don't care.
http://www.w3r-us.org/history/rosters/frgraves.htm
You're welcome (ps : back then, planes were not yet a thing).
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On July 28 2016 01:33 xDaunt wrote:Show nested quote +On July 28 2016 01:17 silynxer wrote:On July 28 2016 01:13 xDaunt wrote:On July 28 2016 01:10 farvacola wrote:On July 28 2016 01:10 xDaunt wrote:On July 28 2016 01:05 Mohdoo wrote:This is what happens when Trump can't stand someone else being on the spotlight:
DORAL, Fla. — Donald J. Trump said Wednesday that he hoped Russia had hacked Hillary Clinton’s email, essentially sanctioning a foreign power’s cyberspying of a secretary of state’s correspondence.
“Russia, if you’re listening, I hope you’re able to find the 30,000 emails that are missing,” Mr. Trump said, staring directly into the cameras. “I think you will probably be rewarded mightily by our press.”
Source And just like that, he has hijacked the newscycle and deprived Hillary of some of the oxygen that she needs to get a convention bounce. That's one way to look at it lol, it could also prove very dumb for Trump. It could, but history strongly suggests otherwise. Teflon Don is a real thing. Can't stump the Trump! If Russia would release the deleted emails tomorrow, as per his request, what would your reaction be? I certainly wouldn't be surprised. Again, let's be real. Every major country has its own cyber-espionage unit that actively fucks with foreign countries.
So the implications really don't bother you at all...
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On July 28 2016 01:36 zeo wrote:Show nested quote +On July 28 2016 01:31 Falling wrote:
So I see Trump looped in the Bernardino and Orlando shootings as examples of bad people coming into our country... except those were their parents that immigrated to the country. The shooters were first generation immigrants, sure, but how do you vet for when children who are born and bred in America go bad? What you are seeing is Trump answering questions from reporters, something Clinton hasn't done in 235 days and counting. I would really love to hear her say anything about anything, hell even planted questions! Barely anyone voting Hillary has heard her talk about any issue. The first debate is on September 26th, thats way too far away to wait for her to answer questions.
Nice deflection. "My canidates says stupid, inflammatory, and false statements. But it's OK since the other canidates doest talk much."
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On July 28 2016 01:36 zeo wrote:Show nested quote +On July 28 2016 01:31 Falling wrote:
So I see Trump looped in the Bernardino and Orlando shootings as examples of bad people coming into our country... except those were their parents that immigrated to the country. The shooters were first generation immigrants, sure, but how do you vet for when children who are born and bred in America go bad? What you are seeing is Trump answering questions from reporters, something Clinton hasn't done in 235 days and counting. I would really love to hear her say anything about anything, hell even planted questions! Barely anyone voting Hillary has heard her talk about any issue. The first debate is on September 26th, thats way too far away to wait for her to answer questions.
she will dodge every question with skill, but will ultimately come off as untrustworthy to the american people as usual. It doesn't take a genius to sniff out bs. I am really interested if she will even address the DNC and their impartiality in her final speech, it will tell me everything I need to know about her character.
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On July 28 2016 01:38 WhiteDog wrote:Show nested quote +On July 28 2016 01:33 Cowboy24 wrote:On July 28 2016 01:29 Gorsameth wrote:On July 28 2016 01:27 Cowboy24 wrote:On July 28 2016 01:21 Mohdoo wrote:On July 28 2016 01:19 Cowboy24 wrote:
NATO is the United States defending people so they don't have to defend themselves. They should pay for all of it. It's not our borders we're defending. In your eyes, why was NATO created? Probably to counteract whatever international alliances the Soviets were building and to create a nice fat buffer zone between Russia and Western Europe. It just isn't very good policy now, in my opinion. Getting involved in European land-wars happened and I'm not going to re-litigate the past and say it was a mistake then, but going forward it would be a mistake to continue. What do I care if Eastern Europe is too weak to protect their own borders? If Putin wants it and he can take it, let him. None of my business. Hell, if he wants Western Europe, none of my business and besides, he'd probably do better than most of the current fools who run things over there. Europe should either start paying for our defense or paying for their own defense. I'm tired of sending American boys to die protecting European socialists. Which is funny since none of the conflicts in which Americans are dying were initiated by Europe. They were all done by America. You realize that the number of European soldiers dying in American conflicts is infinitely greater right? Not that hard tho since you need a number greater then 0... 600,000 US soldiers died in WW2. Now, granted, some of those were in the Pacific, however... On July 28 2016 01:28 m4ini wrote:Europe should either start paying for our defense or paying for their own defense. I'm tired of sending American boys to die protecting European socialists.
bah, not worth it No, go ahead keep it up. Here's my response: When your country loses six-hundred thousand men fighting in Utah to save us from robo-Hitler, you can talk. Until then, I don't care. http://www.w3r-us.org/history/rosters/frgraves.htmYou're welcome (ps : back then, planes were not yet a thing).
Ain't got no beef with France. Anyway, that was Louis' government. That government was murdered by the Revolutionaries.
Also, I think we kind of paid that one back.
edit: So we can all agree that we're even now, and you all can pay for your defense and we can pay for ours and everyone will be happy.
Yet somehow I suspect it will still be American money and weapons and men who guarantee the safety of Europe...
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On July 28 2016 01:39 silynxer wrote:Show nested quote +On July 28 2016 01:33 xDaunt wrote:On July 28 2016 01:17 silynxer wrote:On July 28 2016 01:13 xDaunt wrote:On July 28 2016 01:10 farvacola wrote:On July 28 2016 01:10 xDaunt wrote:On July 28 2016 01:05 Mohdoo wrote:This is what happens when Trump can't stand someone else being on the spotlight:
DORAL, Fla. — Donald J. Trump said Wednesday that he hoped Russia had hacked Hillary Clinton’s email, essentially sanctioning a foreign power’s cyberspying of a secretary of state’s correspondence.
“Russia, if you’re listening, I hope you’re able to find the 30,000 emails that are missing,” Mr. Trump said, staring directly into the cameras. “I think you will probably be rewarded mightily by our press.”
Source And just like that, he has hijacked the newscycle and deprived Hillary of some of the oxygen that she needs to get a convention bounce. That's one way to look at it lol, it could also prove very dumb for Trump. It could, but history strongly suggests otherwise. Teflon Don is a real thing. Can't stump the Trump! If Russia would release the deleted emails tomorrow, as per his request, what would your reaction be? I certainly wouldn't be surprised. Again, let's be real. Every major country has its own cyber-espionage unit that actively fucks with foreign countries. So the implications really don't bother you at all...
What implications? That Hillary stupidly exposed national security secrets to hostile interests? That hostile interests actively seek to hack our stuff? Both are clearly already true.
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On July 28 2016 01:33 Cowboy24 wrote:Show nested quote +On July 28 2016 01:29 Gorsameth wrote:On July 28 2016 01:27 Cowboy24 wrote:On July 28 2016 01:21 Mohdoo wrote:On July 28 2016 01:19 Cowboy24 wrote:
NATO is the United States defending people so they don't have to defend themselves. They should pay for all of it. It's not our borders we're defending. In your eyes, why was NATO created? Probably to counteract whatever international alliances the Soviets were building and to create a nice fat buffer zone between Russia and Western Europe. It just isn't very good policy now, in my opinion. Getting involved in European land-wars happened and I'm not going to re-litigate the past and say it was a mistake then, but going forward it would be a mistake to continue. What do I care if Eastern Europe is too weak to protect their own borders? If Putin wants it and he can take it, let him. None of my business. Hell, if he wants Western Europe, none of my business and besides, he'd probably do better than most of the current fools who run things over there. Europe should either start paying for our defense or paying for their own defense. I'm tired of sending American boys to die protecting European socialists. Which is funny since none of the conflicts in which Americans are dying were initiated by Europe. They were all done by America. You realize that the number of European soldiers dying in American conflicts is infinitely greater right? Not that hard tho since you need a number greater then 0... 600,000 US soldiers died in WW2. Now, granted, some of those were in the Pacific, however... Show nested quote +On July 28 2016 01:28 m4ini wrote:Europe should either start paying for our defense or paying for their own defense. I'm tired of sending American boys to die protecting European socialists.
bah, not worth it No, go ahead keep it up. Here's my response: When your country loses six-hundred thousand men fighting in Utah to save us from robo-Hitler, you can talk. Until then, I don't care.
Impressive. Did you serve in the military? Fight in a war? Get deployed? Or you just one of these standard Americas who shit’s on the rest of the world when that came to help us during our totally bullshit war? And maybe stop dredging up WW2 like you had anything to do with it. My grandfather served in that war and worked with Germans for years after.
Seriously, you are sort of an embarrassment right now.
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On July 28 2016 01:36 zeo wrote:Show nested quote +On July 28 2016 01:31 Falling wrote:
So I see Trump looped in the Bernardino and Orlando shootings as examples of bad people coming into our country... except those were their parents that immigrated to the country. The shooters were first generation immigrants, sure, but how do you vet for when children who are born and bred in America go bad? What you are seeing is Trump answering questions from reporters, something Clinton hasn't done in 235 days and counting. I would really love to hear her say anything about anything, hell even planted questions! Barely anyone voting Hillary has heard her talk about any issue. The first debate is on September 26th, thats way too far away to wait for her to answer questions.
Just saying words to reporters isn't commendable! One needs to say something truthful and intelligent. Backing up your claims with relevant evidence is what I'm looking for. There's no award for participation here...
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On July 28 2016 01:36 zeo wrote:Show nested quote +On July 28 2016 01:31 Falling wrote:
So I see Trump looped in the Bernardino and Orlando shootings as examples of bad people coming into our country... except those were their parents that immigrated to the country. The shooters were first generation immigrants, sure, but how do you vet for when children who are born and bred in America go bad? What you are seeing is Trump answering questions from reporters, something Clinton hasn't done in 235 days and counting. I would really love to hear her say anything about anything, hell even planted questions! Barely anyone voting Hillary has heard her talk about any issue. The first debate is on September 26th, thats way too far away to wait for her to answer questions.
I'd say she'll probably wait until a week or so after the convention. Assuming there isn't another huge email blowup, I think dust will finally settle and allow her to pretend nothing bad ever happened. It also depends on how well the DNC can frame the email hack as the DNC being a victim to Russian aggression. If the story can get spun into Russian aggression, Obama can make a lot of grand posturing that supports it. When this issue ends up getting framed as Russian aggression, it minimizes what the leaks actually showed. It's all about managing to have Russia be framed as the bad guy. The media is doing a lot to help that and I think that's where the conversation is headed.
Trump gained media exposure by calling for Russia to release her emails. But he also helped build the narrative that foreign powers are interfering with and attacking our political system. Clinton being female helps build a narrative of her being a victim. Russia being involved helps extend that to it being an attack on our country. In the end, the content of the emails may be the last thing the media is talking about.
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And tell him that Tim Kaine was not the governor of New Jersey.
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On July 28 2016 01:41 Plansix wrote:Show nested quote +On July 28 2016 01:33 Cowboy24 wrote:On July 28 2016 01:29 Gorsameth wrote:On July 28 2016 01:27 Cowboy24 wrote:On July 28 2016 01:21 Mohdoo wrote:On July 28 2016 01:19 Cowboy24 wrote:
NATO is the United States defending people so they don't have to defend themselves. They should pay for all of it. It's not our borders we're defending. In your eyes, why was NATO created? Probably to counteract whatever international alliances the Soviets were building and to create a nice fat buffer zone between Russia and Western Europe. It just isn't very good policy now, in my opinion. Getting involved in European land-wars happened and I'm not going to re-litigate the past and say it was a mistake then, but going forward it would be a mistake to continue. What do I care if Eastern Europe is too weak to protect their own borders? If Putin wants it and he can take it, let him. None of my business. Hell, if he wants Western Europe, none of my business and besides, he'd probably do better than most of the current fools who run things over there. Europe should either start paying for our defense or paying for their own defense. I'm tired of sending American boys to die protecting European socialists. Which is funny since none of the conflicts in which Americans are dying were initiated by Europe. They were all done by America. You realize that the number of European soldiers dying in American conflicts is infinitely greater right? Not that hard tho since you need a number greater then 0... 600,000 US soldiers died in WW2. Now, granted, some of those were in the Pacific, however... On July 28 2016 01:28 m4ini wrote:Europe should either start paying for our defense or paying for their own defense. I'm tired of sending American boys to die protecting European socialists.
bah, not worth it No, go ahead keep it up. Here's my response: When your country loses six-hundred thousand men fighting in Utah to save us from robo-Hitler, you can talk. Until then, I don't care. Impressive. Did you serve in the military? Fight in a war? Get deployed? Or you just one of these standard Americas who shit’s on the rest of the world when that came to help us during our totally bullshit war? And maybe stop dredging up WW2 like you had anything to do with it. My grandfather served in that war and worked with Germans for years after. Seriously, you are sort of an embarrassment right now.
Yep.
Anyway, they were the ones who brought it up by saying "0 soldiers die in European wars" which is patently false. They meant "recently" but I meant "ever."
Like I said, you all need to grow up and realize not everyone automatically agrees with your political, social, or economic views. Just because you're on the internet and I can't respond physically to really nasty insults and tone doesn't mean you should engage in that type of behavior.
edit: the "How dare you! I won't argue, I'm just gonna use shame tactics and insults to shut you up!" tactic is so 2015...
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On July 28 2016 01:39 biology]major wrote:Show nested quote +On July 28 2016 01:36 zeo wrote:On July 28 2016 01:31 Falling wrote:
So I see Trump looped in the Bernardino and Orlando shootings as examples of bad people coming into our country... except those were their parents that immigrated to the country. The shooters were first generation immigrants, sure, but how do you vet for when children who are born and bred in America go bad? What you are seeing is Trump answering questions from reporters, something Clinton hasn't done in 235 days and counting. I would really love to hear her say anything about anything, hell even planted questions! Barely anyone voting Hillary has heard her talk about any issue. The first debate is on September 26th, thats way too far away to wait for her to answer questions. It doesn't take a genius to sniff out bs.
Some of the quotes by Trump supporters are just golden.
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On July 28 2016 01:41 Falling wrote:Show nested quote +On July 28 2016 01:36 zeo wrote:On July 28 2016 01:31 Falling wrote:
So I see Trump looped in the Bernardino and Orlando shootings as examples of bad people coming into our country... except those were their parents that immigrated to the country. The shooters were first generation immigrants, sure, but how do you vet for when children who are born and bred in America go bad? What you are seeing is Trump answering questions from reporters, something Clinton hasn't done in 235 days and counting. I would really love to hear her say anything about anything, hell even planted questions! Barely anyone voting Hillary has heard her talk about any issue. The first debate is on September 26th, thats way too far away to wait for her to answer questions. Just saying words to reporters isn't commendable! One needs to say something truthful and intelligent. Backing up your claims with relevant evidence is what I'm looking for. There's no award for participation here...
Not risking or being scared of going in front of reporters that would be mostly planted and paid for says a lot more about a persons character, so does going out and answering questions from hostile reporters looking for their next 'gotcha!'
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On July 28 2016 01:43 Cowboy24 wrote:Show nested quote +On July 28 2016 01:41 Plansix wrote:On July 28 2016 01:33 Cowboy24 wrote:On July 28 2016 01:29 Gorsameth wrote:On July 28 2016 01:27 Cowboy24 wrote:On July 28 2016 01:21 Mohdoo wrote:On July 28 2016 01:19 Cowboy24 wrote:
NATO is the United States defending people so they don't have to defend themselves. They should pay for all of it. It's not our borders we're defending. In your eyes, why was NATO created? Probably to counteract whatever international alliances the Soviets were building and to create a nice fat buffer zone between Russia and Western Europe. It just isn't very good policy now, in my opinion. Getting involved in European land-wars happened and I'm not going to re-litigate the past and say it was a mistake then, but going forward it would be a mistake to continue. What do I care if Eastern Europe is too weak to protect their own borders? If Putin wants it and he can take it, let him. None of my business. Hell, if he wants Western Europe, none of my business and besides, he'd probably do better than most of the current fools who run things over there. Europe should either start paying for our defense or paying for their own defense. I'm tired of sending American boys to die protecting European socialists. Which is funny since none of the conflicts in which Americans are dying were initiated by Europe. They were all done by America. You realize that the number of European soldiers dying in American conflicts is infinitely greater right? Not that hard tho since you need a number greater then 0... 600,000 US soldiers died in WW2. Now, granted, some of those were in the Pacific, however... On July 28 2016 01:28 m4ini wrote:Europe should either start paying for our defense or paying for their own defense. I'm tired of sending American boys to die protecting European socialists.
bah, not worth it No, go ahead keep it up. Here's my response: When your country loses six-hundred thousand men fighting in Utah to save us from robo-Hitler, you can talk. Until then, I don't care. Impressive. Did you serve in the military? Fight in a war? Get deployed? Or you just one of these standard Americas who shit’s on the rest of the world when that came to help us during our totally bullshit war? And maybe stop dredging up WW2 like you had anything to do with it. My grandfather served in that war and worked with Germans for years after. Seriously, you are sort of an embarrassment right now. Yep. Anyway, they were the ones who brought it up by saying "0 soldiers die in European wars" which is patently false. They meant "recently" but I meant "ever." Like I said, you all need to grow up and realize not everyone automatically agrees with your political, social, or economic views. Just because you're on the internet and I can't respond physically to really nasty insults and tone doesn't mean you should engage in that type of behavior. edit: the "How dare you! I won't argue, I'm just gonna use shame tactics and insults to shut you up!" tactic is so 2015...
To be fair, you are probably the most extreme Trump supporter ITT. Although xDaunt seems to be moving closer and closer to Trump.
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On July 28 2016 01:42 Mohdoo wrote:Show nested quote +On July 28 2016 01:36 zeo wrote:On July 28 2016 01:31 Falling wrote:
So I see Trump looped in the Bernardino and Orlando shootings as examples of bad people coming into our country... except those were their parents that immigrated to the country. The shooters were first generation immigrants, sure, but how do you vet for when children who are born and bred in America go bad? What you are seeing is Trump answering questions from reporters, something Clinton hasn't done in 235 days and counting. I would really love to hear her say anything about anything, hell even planted questions! Barely anyone voting Hillary has heard her talk about any issue. The first debate is on September 26th, thats way too far away to wait for her to answer questions. I'd say she'll probably wait until a week or so after the convention. Assuming there isn't another huge email blowup, I think dust will finally settle and allow her to pretend nothing bad ever happened. It also depends on how well the DNC can frame the email hack as the DNC being a victim to Russian aggression. If the story can get spun into Russian aggression, Obama can make a lot of grand posturing that supports it. When this issue ends up getting framed as Russian aggression, it minimizes what the leaks actually showed. It's all about managing to have Russia be framed as the bad guy. The media is doing a lot to help that and I think that's where the conversation is headed. Trump gained media exposure by calling for Russia to release her emails. But he also helped build the narrative that foreign powers are interfering with and attacking our political system. Clinton being female helps build a narrative of her being a victim. Russia being involved helps extend that to it being an attack on our country. In the end, the content of the emails may be the last thing the media is talking about.
Yes that is called dishonest reporting, instead of focusing on what we DO know which is the content of the emails, media will focus on conspiracy theories. I think Russia is a very real suspect in this, but it doesn't mean shit if they did. The media will spin it as if Putin and Trump are secretly bffs.
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On July 28 2016 01:46 Doodsmack wrote:Show nested quote +On July 28 2016 01:43 Cowboy24 wrote:On July 28 2016 01:41 Plansix wrote:On July 28 2016 01:33 Cowboy24 wrote:On July 28 2016 01:29 Gorsameth wrote:On July 28 2016 01:27 Cowboy24 wrote:On July 28 2016 01:21 Mohdoo wrote:On July 28 2016 01:19 Cowboy24 wrote:
NATO is the United States defending people so they don't have to defend themselves. They should pay for all of it. It's not our borders we're defending. In your eyes, why was NATO created? Probably to counteract whatever international alliances the Soviets were building and to create a nice fat buffer zone between Russia and Western Europe. It just isn't very good policy now, in my opinion. Getting involved in European land-wars happened and I'm not going to re-litigate the past and say it was a mistake then, but going forward it would be a mistake to continue. What do I care if Eastern Europe is too weak to protect their own borders? If Putin wants it and he can take it, let him. None of my business. Hell, if he wants Western Europe, none of my business and besides, he'd probably do better than most of the current fools who run things over there. Europe should either start paying for our defense or paying for their own defense. I'm tired of sending American boys to die protecting European socialists. Which is funny since none of the conflicts in which Americans are dying were initiated by Europe. They were all done by America. You realize that the number of European soldiers dying in American conflicts is infinitely greater right? Not that hard tho since you need a number greater then 0... 600,000 US soldiers died in WW2. Now, granted, some of those were in the Pacific, however... On July 28 2016 01:28 m4ini wrote:Europe should either start paying for our defense or paying for their own defense. I'm tired of sending American boys to die protecting European socialists.
bah, not worth it No, go ahead keep it up. Here's my response: When your country loses six-hundred thousand men fighting in Utah to save us from robo-Hitler, you can talk. Until then, I don't care. Impressive. Did you serve in the military? Fight in a war? Get deployed? Or you just one of these standard Americas who shit’s on the rest of the world when that came to help us during our totally bullshit war? And maybe stop dredging up WW2 like you had anything to do with it. My grandfather served in that war and worked with Germans for years after. Seriously, you are sort of an embarrassment right now. Yep. Anyway, they were the ones who brought it up by saying "0 soldiers die in European wars" which is patently false. They meant "recently" but I meant "ever." Like I said, you all need to grow up and realize not everyone automatically agrees with your political, social, or economic views. Just because you're on the internet and I can't respond physically to really nasty insults and tone doesn't mean you should engage in that type of behavior. edit: the "How dare you! I won't argue, I'm just gonna use shame tactics and insults to shut you up!" tactic is so 2015... To be fair, you are probably the most extreme Trump supporter ITT. Although xDaunt seems to be moving closer and closer to Trump.
You can have an intelligent conversation with xDaunt, and while I rarely agree with him I atleast value his viewpoint.
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On July 28 2016 01:46 Doodsmack wrote:Show nested quote +On July 28 2016 01:43 Cowboy24 wrote:On July 28 2016 01:41 Plansix wrote:On July 28 2016 01:33 Cowboy24 wrote:On July 28 2016 01:29 Gorsameth wrote:On July 28 2016 01:27 Cowboy24 wrote:On July 28 2016 01:21 Mohdoo wrote:On July 28 2016 01:19 Cowboy24 wrote:
NATO is the United States defending people so they don't have to defend themselves. They should pay for all of it. It's not our borders we're defending. In your eyes, why was NATO created? Probably to counteract whatever international alliances the Soviets were building and to create a nice fat buffer zone between Russia and Western Europe. It just isn't very good policy now, in my opinion. Getting involved in European land-wars happened and I'm not going to re-litigate the past and say it was a mistake then, but going forward it would be a mistake to continue. What do I care if Eastern Europe is too weak to protect their own borders? If Putin wants it and he can take it, let him. None of my business. Hell, if he wants Western Europe, none of my business and besides, he'd probably do better than most of the current fools who run things over there. Europe should either start paying for our defense or paying for their own defense. I'm tired of sending American boys to die protecting European socialists. Which is funny since none of the conflicts in which Americans are dying were initiated by Europe. They were all done by America. You realize that the number of European soldiers dying in American conflicts is infinitely greater right? Not that hard tho since you need a number greater then 0... 600,000 US soldiers died in WW2. Now, granted, some of those were in the Pacific, however... On July 28 2016 01:28 m4ini wrote:Europe should either start paying for our defense or paying for their own defense. I'm tired of sending American boys to die protecting European socialists.
bah, not worth it No, go ahead keep it up. Here's my response: When your country loses six-hundred thousand men fighting in Utah to save us from robo-Hitler, you can talk. Until then, I don't care. Impressive. Did you serve in the military? Fight in a war? Get deployed? Or you just one of these standard Americas who shit’s on the rest of the world when that came to help us during our totally bullshit war? And maybe stop dredging up WW2 like you had anything to do with it. My grandfather served in that war and worked with Germans for years after. Seriously, you are sort of an embarrassment right now. Yep. Anyway, they were the ones who brought it up by saying "0 soldiers die in European wars" which is patently false. They meant "recently" but I meant "ever." Like I said, you all need to grow up and realize not everyone automatically agrees with your political, social, or economic views. Just because you're on the internet and I can't respond physically to really nasty insults and tone doesn't mean you should engage in that type of behavior. edit: the "How dare you! I won't argue, I'm just gonna use shame tactics and insults to shut you up!" tactic is so 2015... To be fair, you are probably the most extreme Trump supporter ITT. Although xDaunt seems to be moving closer and closer to Trump.
I didn't think that my preference was still in doubt. I'll be voting for Trump this year.
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