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Mohdoo
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ticklishmusic
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On June 21 2016 00:08 Danglars wrote: Why can't we see the firing live and over-dramatized? The Apprentice: Campaign edition | ||
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GreenHorizons
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On June 21 2016 00:01 SolaR- wrote: Some of the taboo surrounding certain drugs is a bit overblown in my opinion. I have done PCP and for me it was nothing like how it is portrayed. It was actually a very calm feeling. If you look at any drug though, you will have some moronic stories of people doing dumb shit(like people jumping off roofs while on acid). Maybe decriminalize drugs and require a license for "harder drugs". Honestly though, i would say alcohol is one of the craziest drugs you can do and there is basically no control of that substance. I've done an analog of meth, but i can't give you any opinion on the real drug since i havent done it. Meth was really popular around here for about a decade, it's main problem is keeping people up for days (which leads to hallucinations, paranoia, etc). But doctors will give you meth too, they just call it Desoxyn, need heroin? ask your doctor for diacetylmorphine. The myth here is that the discussion is between criminalization and legalization, it's not. It's about who has control of the drug trade. Right now it's split between pharmaceutical companies and the street. Pretty much any current OTC manufacturer that existed in the early 1900's made some of their fortune selling heroin, meth, or something similar. They just want their market share back. The "opioid epidemic" isn't one created by Mexican drug cartels, it's one created by the American pharmaceutical cartels. | ||
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amazingxkcd
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On June 21 2016 00:34 ticklishmusic wrote: Report: Trump Campaign Manager Screamed ‘You’re F***ing Dead to Me’ to Press Secretary well he got fired http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/284090-trump-fires-campaign-manager now things get interesting for the trump campaign. Who steps in? | ||
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heliusx
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amazingxkcd
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On June 21 2016 00:42 amazingxkcd wrote: well he got fired http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/284090-trump-fires-campaign-manager now things get interesting for the trump campaign. Who steps in? | ||
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Mohdoo
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On June 21 2016 00:49 amazingxkcd wrote: https://twitter.com/gabrielsherman/status/744913178551853059 Trump's daughter got the horns starting to grow, IMO. | ||
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On_Slaught
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The fact it is coming down to ultimatums from his own daughter isn't a sign of strong leadership. Guess I need to update my sig. | ||
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Plansix
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amazingxkcd
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SolaR-
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On June 21 2016 00:29 GreenHorizons wrote: Meth was really popular around here for about a decade, it's main problem is keeping people up for days (which leads to hallucinations, paranoia, etc). But doctors will give you meth too, they just call it Desoxyn, need heroin? ask your doctor for diacetylmorphine. The myth here is that the discussion is between criminalization and legalization, it's not. It's about who has control of the drug trade. Right now it's split between pharmaceutical companies and the street. Pretty much any current OTC manufacturer that existed in the early 1900's made some of their fortune selling heroin, meth, or something similar. They just want their market share back. The "opioid epidemic" isn't one created by Mexican drug cartels, it's one created by the American pharmaceutical cartels. I agree with you completely on the drug trade. Pharmaceutical companies, hospitals, doctors, and insurance companies are probably the most corrupt market. I had a recent 3 year span of health issues where i had to deal with the most absolute bullshit. No one cares, especially if you are young. They don't take you seriously and just try to extort you. It's a similiar issue with new energy. We have the ability of technology to use renewable energy, but the oil companies stifle any movement on that front. If anything drugs should be taken away from the street and the companies to be regulated by the government. It would ensure fair costs and safe drugs. There is a ton of movement with millionials against the drug war. Unfortunately, their motivation stems mostly for their own personal desire to smoke as much weed as they want. However, there is tons of misinformation out there which demonizes other drugs and make marijuana seem harmless(which it isnt). | ||
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Mohdoo
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On June 21 2016 01:00 Plansix wrote: He has to make it to November. He hasn’t even been officially nominated yet and this entire thing is already a tire fire. It would be fun to watch if we didn’t have so many real issues that should be the center of attention. I'm starting to worry he won't actually be the nominee  | ||
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{CC}StealthBlue
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GreenHorizons
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On June 21 2016 00:45 heliusx wrote: Nah the main problems with meth is first its neurotoxicity. Secondly it's addiction potential, meth heads spend all their money buying meth. When they run out of money they begin stealing shit and breaking into cars, homes and businesses. Simplifying the problems with meth as "u get paranoid because you stay awake" is ignorant AF. Addiction isn't as clear as you think, Alcohol can actually kill you if you stop using it and are addicted enough, meth doesn't share that level of addiction. The issues around stealing are more a result of the "feeling like a super hero (or villian)" than addiction alone, addicts steal (doesn't matter the substance), meth happens to make people feel invincible quite often and results in more brazen crimes. Meth users who sleep regularly generally aren't problematic (at least any more than their non-user counterparts), you probably don't even know they are meth users. Hell a good portion of this site are probably meth users, they just take it in a lower dosage or use an analog. I may not have been clear, but you're not going to tell me anything about meth or the problems it causes that I don't already know having spent a lot of time in what was once the meth capital of the country and losing several close friends to meth addiction. The main point being legalizing drugs is not as absurd as the criminalizing of them (for some parts of society) has been. | ||
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Plansix
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On June 21 2016 01:15 Mohdoo wrote: I'm starting to worry he won't actually be the nominee There is a very real chance he can’t work with the GOP. He ran on the Republican ticket and won, but that doesn’t mean the entire party has to follow him into the tire fire. But that could destroy the party as we know it and no one is willing to pull that trigger yet. Personally, I think we would be better off with the GOP imploding and a less socially conservative party rising out of that. | ||
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SolaR-
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On June 21 2016 01:18 GreenHorizons wrote: Addiction isn't as clear as you think, Alcohol can actually kill you if you stop using it and are addicted enough, meth doesn't share that level of addiction. The issues around stealing are more a result of the "feeling like a super hero (or villian)" than addiction alone, addicts steal (doesn't matter the substance), meth happens to make people feel invincible quite often and results in more brazen crimes. Meth users who sleep regularly generally aren't problematic (at least any more than their non-user counterparts), you probably don't even know they are meth users. Hell a good portion of this site are probably meth users, they just take it in a lower dosage or use an analog. I may not have been clear, but you're not going to tell me anything about meth or the problems it causes that I don't already know having spent a lot of time in what was once the meth capital of the country and losing several close friends to meth addiction. The main point being legalizing drugs is not as absurd as the criminalizing of them (for some parts of society) has been. Nicotine has proven to be harder to break the addiction than heroin has. Also, people respond to drugs differently, that is why i think uniform or blanket rules do not make sense. Many "heavy" drug users only use for the experience and recreation. The problem begins when people see it as a supplementation for their life. I think you have to be a very mature and self-aware person to do drugs responsibly. Unfortunately, many people are impulsive and give into instant gratification quite easily. | ||
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Mohdoo
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On June 21 2016 01:21 Plansix wrote: There is a very real chance he can’t work with the GOP. He ran on the Republican ticket and won, but that doesn’t mean the entire party has to follow him into the tire fire. But that could destroy the party as we know it and no one is willing to pull that trigger yet. Personally, I think we would be better off with the GOP imploding and a less socially conservative party rising out of that. My thought/hope is that Lewandowski's firing is a sign of at least trying to be mildly cohesive. I think the GOP is better off losing badly than upending the whole party. So they had a really bad year, oh well. You know what the GOP needed? Superdelegates. | ||
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heliusx
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On June 21 2016 01:18 GreenHorizons wrote: Addiction isn't as clear as you think, Alcohol can actually kill you if you stop using it and are addicted enough, meth doesn't share that level of addiction. The issues around stealing are more a result of the "feeling like a super hero (or villian)" than addiction alone, addicts steal (doesn't matter the substance), meth happens to make people feel invincible quite often and results in more brazen crimes. Meth users who sleep regularly generally aren't problematic (at least any more than their non-user counterparts), you probably don't even know they are meth users. Hell a good portion of this site are probably meth users, they just take it in a lower dosage or use an analog. I may not have been clear, but you're not going to tell me anything about meth or the problems it causes that I don't already know having spent a lot of time in what was once the meth capital of the country and losing several close friends to meth addiction. The main point being legalizing drugs is not as absurd as the criminalizing of them (for some parts of society) has been. I can only respond to what you say and what you said was completely bs. "it's main problem is keeping people up for days (which leads to hallucinations, paranoia, etc). " That's not even close to being meths main problem. | ||
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