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Kipsate
Netherlands45349 Posts
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Velr
Switzerland10978 Posts
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GreenHorizons
United States24437 Posts
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JW_DTLA
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On March 16 2016 15:52 SK.Testie wrote: Lies, diversity is our strength. It's our differences that make us stronger. Occupy Wallstreet! Black lives matter! Tear down the patriarchy! My body my choice! Legalize weed! Raise the minimum wage! COMMUNISM ANARCHY FUCK CAPITALISM WOOOO!! Wait what were we here for? Identity politics. Yup, that's how OWS was destroyed. You don't let the men who organized it speak because they are "privileged". Sad. The Democratic coalition (which includes OWS) has all the races of America. The Republican party (and especially Trump's Republican party) is strictly the party of white America. Look at the actual polling, the real voting demographic data. Face it, the Republican party is now a white ethnic nationalist party. The Democrats (and OWS and BLS) are now the multiracial coalition without a specific racial identity. | ||
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Slaughter
United States20255 Posts
Pretty much agree with Noah's take on the unrest and the protests at Trump rallys. | ||
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
On March 16 2016 18:56 Slaughter wrote: + Show Spoiler + https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DuB9B4Z9l1o Pretty much agree with Noah's take on the unrest and the protests at Trump rallys. "dudes were halfway through a deadlift" *does a fake half squat* what more proof do you need to know that Noah is a fraud? | ||
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corumjhaelen
France6884 Posts
On March 16 2016 15:52 SK.Testie wrote: Lies, diversity is our strength. It's our differences that make us stronger. Occupy Wallstreet! Black lives matter! Tear down the patriarchy! My body my choice! Legalize weed! Raise the minimum wage! COMMUNISM ANARCHY FUCK CAPITALISM WOOOO!! Wait what were we here for? Identity politics. Yup, that's how OWS was destroyed. You don't let the men who organized it speak because they are "privileged". Sad. Infighting of the far left are much older than identity politics, and more importantly much funnier. You can't parody real trotskysts or anarchists organisations <3 | ||
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nojok
France15846 Posts
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DickMcFanny
Ireland1076 Posts
This race is over, Trump has won. Hillary can't possibly win, voter turnout for republicans is on the highest level in 48 years. And he hasn't even started on her yet. | ||
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oneofthem
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
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farvacola
United States18870 Posts
I consider it a blessing that Hillary's campaign seems led more by Kwisachs than oneofthems. Democrats would definitely lose if her campaign blamed Sanders's fans for their grievances. | ||
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oneofthem
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corumjhaelen
France6884 Posts
 I blame your misappreciation of Plato. | ||
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FuzzyJAM
Scotland9300 Posts
On March 16 2016 19:57 corumjhaelen wrote: Infighting of the far left are much older than identity politics, and more importantly much funnier. You can't parody real trotskysts or anarchists organisations <3 https://www.marxists.org/archive/lenin/works/1902/jul/00.htm "Why the Social-Democrats Must Declare a Determined and Relentless War on the Socialist-Revolutionaries", Lenin, 1902. There are countless other examples of course, but I just found this particularly funny when I was reading some of Lenin's work. Monty Python's Life of Brian sketch gets it pretty right. I think it's inevitable, really. Conservatives in general like how things are. They're doing well, or at least think the system will do well for them on aggregate. They're not really that fussed about politics because they're winning almost by definition, and they agree on most things because that's what their entire platform is: agreeing to keep things as they are. If things don't go quite their way on a particular issue - oh well, that's not great, but the system as a whole is still fine, you still have that bedrock of agreement. In contrast, people who want to change the system are normally idealistically driven. And the more idealistic you are, the more likely you are to clash with others, even with people who seem pretty similar in goals. | ||
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Mohdoo
United States15743 Posts
On March 16 2016 14:47 GreenHorizons wrote: Pretty sure it's like 12 delegates on the R side goes to the winner then it breaks down at the lower levels. As for the super delegate stuff I'd be curious to see how many switched in 08, how many went with their state, and how many Hillary kept/got at the convention before Obama was nominated. Id prefer he not need any super delegates but I still think Bernie is a much better opponent in the general so I think it's the best decision to beat Trump or anyone else R's run. Hopefully Trump gets a chance to preview some more of his general election material before too long so more folks see what I'm talking about. I can't imagine a world where super delegates go his way. He can't get a majority at this point, so he'd be hoping for some kinda revolt. I just can't believe it. He didn't win a single state. I'm starting to think Bernie fancies himself some kind of socialist prophet, sent from the heavens to save us from ourselves. He can't believe the American people would turn against his wild economics and science denial. If only we could see the light. | ||
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iPlaY.NettleS
Australia4460 Posts
On March 16 2016 18:46 JW_DTLA wrote: The Democratic coalition (which includes OWS) has all the races of America. The Republican party (and especially Trump's Republican party) is strictly the party of white America. Look at the actual polling, the real voting demographic data. Face it, the Republican party is now a white ethnic nationalist party. The Democrats (and OWS and BLS) are now the multiracial coalition without a specific racial identity. No, i can't agree that OWS is a democratic institution since in the beginning plenty of libertarian end the fed types were on site. What we're saying is OWS started as a movement for more financial sector regulation and opposition to the banker bailouts and bonuses and was hijacked by SJWs who wanted to make it about gay marriage, climate change, how great socialism is, end the war etc.Started bringing in jazz hands and the progressive stack and it went downhill fast.It started off focused and then splintered, weakening and eventually destroying the movement. The figureheads for this downfall were "Justin" and "ketchup" (the "name" she gave) two freaks that Steven Colbert invited to lunch and took the piss out of on his show. Colbert clip : http://gawker.com/5855105/stephen-colbert-trolls-occupy-wall-street More of ketchup : http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=qVGHrEtkFIc | ||
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Gorsameth
Netherlands22675 Posts
On March 16 2016 21:19 Mohdoo wrote: I can't imagine a world where super delegates go his way. He can't get a majority at this point, so he'd be hoping for some kinda revolt. I just can't believe it. He didn't win a single state. I'm starting to think Bernie fancies himself some kind of socialist prophet, sent from the heavens to save us from ourselves. He can't believe the American people would turn against his wild economics and science denial. If only we could see the light. I think Bernie knows he cant win anymore. He is staying in the fight because he wants to drag the Democrats to his side and the longer he stays the more he can do that. Its his supporters who see him as a prophet. And yes his had to get the majority without super delegates and then trust they will vote with the majority (not unreasonable). Any plan that involves the super delegates voting for him against a majority of normal delegates has no basis in reality. An indictment over email-gate is the only chance of actually winning he has left. | ||
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oneofthem
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
On March 16 2016 21:12 corumjhaelen wrote: The problem is more that you're not very funny I blame your misappreciation of Plato. lol probably i didnt really pay attention in the ancient module | ||
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iPlaY.NettleS
Australia4460 Posts
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=3QZlp3eGMNI | ||
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Kipsate
Netherlands45349 Posts
Does Cruz even still have a chance at beating Trump? | ||
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