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Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
March 16 2016 09:18 GMT
#67081
With Rubio out and Kasich(god bless him for trying) pretty much too. GOP is left with Cruz or Trump, I don't like they like Cruz either but they would rather have him then Trump no?(also its probably far too late).
WriterXiao8~~
Velr
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Switzerland10910 Posts
March 16 2016 09:29 GMT
#67082
A 4 or 5 way election would be fun... And make more sense than this whole circus anyway.
GreenHorizons
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States24059 Posts
March 16 2016 09:39 GMT
#67083
Best news of the night is both Anita Alverez and Tim McGinty lost their jobs.
"People like to look at history and think 'If that was me back then, I would have...' We're living through history, and the truth is, whatever you are doing now is probably what you would have done then" "Scratch a Liberal..."
JW_DTLA
Profile Joined December 2015
242 Posts
March 16 2016 09:46 GMT
#67084
On March 16 2016 15:52 SK.Testie wrote:
Lies, diversity is our strength. It's our differences that make us stronger. Occupy Wallstreet!
Black lives matter!
Tear down the patriarchy!
My body my choice!
Legalize weed!
Raise the minimum wage!
COMMUNISM ANARCHY FUCK CAPITALISM WOOOO!!
Wait what were we here for?
Identity politics.

Yup, that's how OWS was destroyed. You don't let the men who organized it speak because they are "privileged". Sad.


The Democratic coalition (which includes OWS) has all the races of America. The Republican party (and especially Trump's Republican party) is strictly the party of white America. Look at the actual polling, the real voting demographic data. Face it, the Republican party is now a white ethnic nationalist party. The Democrats (and OWS and BLS) are now the multiracial coalition without a specific racial identity.
Slaughter
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States20255 Posts
March 16 2016 09:56 GMT
#67085


Pretty much agree with Noah's take on the unrest and the protests at Trump rallys.
Never Knows Best.
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
March 16 2016 09:59 GMT
#67086
On March 16 2016 18:56 Slaughter wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DuB9B4Z9l1o

Pretty much agree with Noah's take on the unrest and the protests at Trump rallys.

"dudes were halfway through a deadlift"
*does a fake half squat*
what more proof do you need to know that Noah is a fraud?
liftlift > tsm
corumjhaelen
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
France6884 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-03-16 10:58:02
March 16 2016 10:57 GMT
#67087
On March 16 2016 15:52 SK.Testie wrote:
Lies, diversity is our strength. It's our differences that make us stronger. Occupy Wallstreet!
Black lives matter!
Tear down the patriarchy!
My body my choice!
Legalize weed!
Raise the minimum wage!
COMMUNISM ANARCHY FUCK CAPITALISM WOOOO!!
Wait what were we here for?
Identity politics.

Yup, that's how OWS was destroyed. You don't let the men who organized it speak because they are "privileged". Sad.

Infighting of the far left are much older than identity politics, and more importantly much funnier. You can't parody real trotskysts or anarchists organisations <3
‎numquam se plus agere quam nihil cum ageret, numquam minus solum esse quam cum solus esset
nojok
Profile Joined May 2011
France15846 Posts
March 16 2016 11:10 GMT
#67088
Am I wrong for seeing Clinton as a huge favorite now that she's almost guaranteed to face Trump? And how Americans feel about potentially getting father and son at the White House and also husband and wife?
"Back then teams that won were credited, now it's called throw. I think it's sad." - Kuroky - Flap Flap Wings!
DickMcFanny
Profile Blog Joined September 2015
Ireland1076 Posts
March 16 2016 11:22 GMT
#67089
A "huge favourite"?

This race is over, Trump has won. Hillary can't possibly win, voter turnout for republicans is on the highest level in 48 years.
And he hasn't even started on her yet.
| (• ◡•)|╯ ╰(❍ᴥ❍ʋ)
oneofthem
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
March 16 2016 11:43 GMT
#67090
blame sandernistas for being generally reality proof
We have fed the heart on fantasies, the heart's grown brutal from the fare, more substance in our enmities than in our love
farvacola
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States18865 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-03-16 11:46:21
March 16 2016 11:44 GMT
#67091
Yet again, it appears people need to be reminded as to how different primary and general election turnouts/results are. This notion that Trump's influence on turnout plays purely in his favor ignores Trump's high unfavorability. In other words, the electorate's energy is really a double edged sword for Trump.

I consider it a blessing that Hillary's campaign seems led more by Kwisachs than oneofthems. Democrats would definitely lose if her campaign blamed Sanders's fans for their grievances.
"when the Dead Kennedys found out they had skinhead fans, they literally wrote a song titled 'Nazi Punks Fuck Off'"
oneofthem
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
March 16 2016 12:07 GMT
#67092
lol im just a forum shill clubbing seals
We have fed the heart on fantasies, the heart's grown brutal from the fare, more substance in our enmities than in our love
corumjhaelen
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
France6884 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-03-16 12:12:48
March 16 2016 12:12 GMT
#67093
The problem is more that you're not very funny
I blame your misappreciation of Plato.
‎numquam se plus agere quam nihil cum ageret, numquam minus solum esse quam cum solus esset
FuzzyJAM
Profile Joined July 2010
Scotland9300 Posts
March 16 2016 12:15 GMT
#67094
On March 16 2016 19:57 corumjhaelen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 16 2016 15:52 SK.Testie wrote:
Lies, diversity is our strength. It's our differences that make us stronger. Occupy Wallstreet!
Black lives matter!
Tear down the patriarchy!
My body my choice!
Legalize weed!
Raise the minimum wage!
COMMUNISM ANARCHY FUCK CAPITALISM WOOOO!!
Wait what were we here for?
Identity politics.

Yup, that's how OWS was destroyed. You don't let the men who organized it speak because they are "privileged". Sad.

Infighting of the far left are much older than identity politics, and more importantly much funnier. You can't parody real trotskysts or anarchists organisations <3

https://www.marxists.org/archive/lenin/works/1902/jul/00.htm

"Why the Social-Democrats Must Declare a Determined and Relentless War on the Socialist-Revolutionaries", Lenin, 1902. There are countless other examples of course, but I just found this particularly funny when I was reading some of Lenin's work. Monty Python's Life of Brian sketch gets it pretty right.

I think it's inevitable, really. Conservatives in general like how things are. They're doing well, or at least think the system will do well for them on aggregate. They're not really that fussed about politics because they're winning almost by definition, and they agree on most things because that's what their entire platform is: agreeing to keep things as they are. If things don't go quite their way on a particular issue - oh well, that's not great, but the system as a whole is still fine, you still have that bedrock of agreement. In contrast, people who want to change the system are normally idealistically driven. And the more idealistic you are, the more likely you are to clash with others, even with people who seem pretty similar in goals.
Did you ever say Yes to a single joy?
Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15743 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-03-16 12:20:52
March 16 2016 12:19 GMT
#67095
On March 16 2016 14:47 GreenHorizons wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 16 2016 14:22 TheTenthDoc wrote:
On March 16 2016 14:20 LegalLord wrote:
I thought Missouri was WTA. Is it WTM or P, or is it actually WTA?


Missouri awards delegates on a district level with (I think) a delegate bonus for the overall plurality.


Pretty sure it's like 12 delegates on the R side goes to the winner then it breaks down at the lower levels.

As for the super delegate stuff I'd be curious to see how many switched in 08, how many went with their state, and how many Hillary kept/got at the convention before Obama was nominated.

Id prefer he not need any super delegates but I still think Bernie is a much better opponent in the general so I think it's the best decision to beat Trump or anyone else R's run.

Hopefully Trump gets a chance to preview some more of his general election material before too long so more folks see what I'm talking about.


I can't imagine a world where super delegates go his way. He can't get a majority at this point, so he'd be hoping for some kinda revolt.

I just can't believe it. He didn't win a single state. I'm starting to think Bernie fancies himself some kind of socialist prophet, sent from the heavens to save us from ourselves. He can't believe the American people would turn against his wild economics and science denial. If only we could see the light.
iPlaY.NettleS
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Australia4425 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-03-16 12:27:54
March 16 2016 12:26 GMT
#67096
On March 16 2016 18:46 JW_DTLA wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 16 2016 15:52 SK.Testie wrote:
Lies, diversity is our strength. It's our differences that make us stronger. Occupy Wallstreet!
Black lives matter!
Tear down the patriarchy!
My body my choice!
Legalize weed!
Raise the minimum wage!
COMMUNISM ANARCHY FUCK CAPITALISM WOOOO!!
Wait what were we here for?
Identity politics.

Yup, that's how OWS was destroyed. You don't let the men who organized it speak because they are "privileged". Sad.


The Democratic coalition (which includes OWS) has all the races of America. The Republican party (and especially Trump's Republican party) is strictly the party of white America. Look at the actual polling, the real voting demographic data. Face it, the Republican party is now a white ethnic nationalist party. The Democrats (and OWS and BLS) are now the multiracial coalition without a specific racial identity.

No, i can't agree that OWS is a democratic institution since in the beginning plenty of libertarian end the fed types were on site.

What we're saying is OWS started as a movement for more financial sector regulation and opposition to the banker bailouts and bonuses and was hijacked by SJWs who wanted to make it about gay marriage, climate change, how great socialism is, end the war etc.Started bringing in jazz hands and the progressive stack and it went downhill fast.It started off focused and then splintered, weakening and eventually destroying the movement.

The figureheads for this downfall were "Justin" and "ketchup" (the "name" she gave) two freaks that Steven Colbert invited to lunch and took the piss out of on his show.

Colbert clip : http://gawker.com/5855105/stephen-colbert-trolls-occupy-wall-street

More of ketchup : http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=qVGHrEtkFIc


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e7PvoI6gvQs
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands22440 Posts
March 16 2016 12:29 GMT
#67097
On March 16 2016 21:19 Mohdoo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 16 2016 14:47 GreenHorizons wrote:
On March 16 2016 14:22 TheTenthDoc wrote:
On March 16 2016 14:20 LegalLord wrote:
I thought Missouri was WTA. Is it WTM or P, or is it actually WTA?


Missouri awards delegates on a district level with (I think) a delegate bonus for the overall plurality.


Pretty sure it's like 12 delegates on the R side goes to the winner then it breaks down at the lower levels.

As for the super delegate stuff I'd be curious to see how many switched in 08, how many went with their state, and how many Hillary kept/got at the convention before Obama was nominated.

Id prefer he not need any super delegates but I still think Bernie is a much better opponent in the general so I think it's the best decision to beat Trump or anyone else R's run.

Hopefully Trump gets a chance to preview some more of his general election material before too long so more folks see what I'm talking about.


I can't imagine a world where super delegates go his way. He can't get a majority at this point, so he'd be hoping for some kinda revolt.

I just can't believe it. He didn't win a single state. I'm starting to think Bernie fancies himself some kind of socialist prophet, sent from the heavens to save us from ourselves. He can't believe the American people would turn against his wild economics and science denial. If only we could see the light.

I think Bernie knows he cant win anymore. He is staying in the fight because he wants to drag the Democrats to his side and the longer he stays the more he can do that.
Its his supporters who see him as a prophet.

And yes his had to get the majority without super delegates and then trust they will vote with the majority (not unreasonable).
Any plan that involves the super delegates voting for him against a majority of normal delegates has no basis in reality.

An indictment over email-gate is the only chance of actually winning he has left.
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
oneofthem
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
March 16 2016 12:34 GMT
#67098
On March 16 2016 21:12 corumjhaelen wrote:
The problem is more that you're not very funny
I blame your misappreciation of Plato.

lol probably i didnt really pay attention in the ancient module
We have fed the heart on fantasies, the heart's grown brutal from the fare, more substance in our enmities than in our love
iPlaY.NettleS
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Australia4425 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-03-16 12:35:24
March 16 2016 12:34 GMT
#67099
Probably the freakiest OWS video ever.Occupy Atlanta refuses to let civil rights hero speak.Check out the groupthink, very creepy.This is your "Democratic institution" JW? I wouldn't want it.

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=3QZlp3eGMNI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e7PvoI6gvQs
Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-03-16 12:37:26
March 16 2016 12:37 GMT
#67100
Bernie Sanders would win if Reddit/Social media was representative of the American population, but it isn't. According to that Bernie is the next coming of the Messiah and Hillary the spawn of Satan. The internet just created a bit of a bubble thinking that Bernie Sanders has a really great shot.

Does Cruz even still have a chance at beating Trump?
WriterXiao8~~
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