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farvacola
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States18864 Posts
March 16 2016 14:14 GMT
#67121
Before a convention formally convenes, there is a mechanism by which the rules for the convention are set. In other words, Republican leadership has an opportunity to renegotiate the delegate voting rules before the convention moves forward. Naturally, this may prove politically disastrous, but it is very possible.
"when the Dead Kennedys found out they had skinhead fans, they literally wrote a song titled 'Nazi Punks Fuck Off'"
Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
March 16 2016 14:15 GMT
#67122
Sounds like political suicide of the Republican party

would be interesting though I guess.
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LegalLord
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
United States13779 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-03-16 14:23:12
March 16 2016 14:16 GMT
#67123
I think that a brokered convention that does not choose Trump pretty much guarantees a third party run and the fracturing of the GOP. Cruz doesn't seem on board with the idea of the brokered convention either and says he'd support the leader if it came to that.

Edit: And it looks like Trump all but said that brokered convention = third party run.
History will sooner or later sweep the European Union away without mercy.
Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15743 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-03-16 14:25:31
March 16 2016 14:21 GMT
#67124
On March 16 2016 23:15 Kipsate wrote:
Sounds like political suicide of the Republican party

would be interesting though I guess.


Having Boehner endorse Ryan gives the establishment a chance to see how the idea does. No one is *actually* expecting a Ryan run, yet. Boehner is a great choice for giving the idea a spotlight without commitment.

edit: I think the bigger deal is the fact that the establishment is STILL not willing to work with Cruz
oneofthem
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
March 16 2016 14:33 GMT
#67125
lol the trump is a clinton mole narrative still going strong.
We have fed the heart on fantasies, the heart's grown brutal from the fare, more substance in our enmities than in our love
Seuss
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States10536 Posts
March 16 2016 14:35 GMT
#67126
So I was completely wrong about Rubio sticking in it to keep his delegates from freeing up. Welp.

At the end of the day Trump will probably be 20-30 delegates short of where he wants to be, which is enough to make the path forward difficult but not enough to guarantee an contested convention (yet).

I wonder if Kasich staying in hurts Trump more than Cruz.
"I am not able to carry all this people alone, for they are too heavy for me." -Moses (Numbers 11:14)
xDaunt
Profile Joined March 2010
United States17988 Posts
March 16 2016 14:40 GMT
#67127
On March 16 2016 23:21 Mohdoo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 16 2016 23:15 Kipsate wrote:
Sounds like political suicide of the Republican party

would be interesting though I guess.


Having Boehner endorse Ryan gives the establishment a chance to see how the idea does. No one is *actually* expecting a Ryan run, yet. Boehner is a great choice for giving the idea a spotlight without commitment.

edit: I think the bigger deal is the fact that the establishment is STILL not willing to work with Cruz

You can bet that Limbaugh, et al. will be up in arms today. And rightfully so.
LegalLord
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
United States13779 Posts
March 16 2016 14:42 GMT
#67128
Trump plans to skip the next debate.
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/donald-trump-to-skip-next-republican-debate/
Donald Trump announced Wednesday that he will not be attending Fox News' debate next week, citing prior commitments to speak "in front of an important group of people."

Trump told "Fox and Friends" during a phone interview that he was "was very surprised when I heard that Fox called for a debate."

"I think we have had enough debates," he said. "We have had 11 or 12 debates. I did really well on the last one. I think I have done well in all the debates...But I think we've had enough. How many times can the same people ask you the same question?"
History will sooner or later sweep the European Union away without mercy.
Sent.
Profile Joined June 2012
Poland9316 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-03-16 14:47:07
March 16 2016 14:46 GMT
#67129
Republican debate without Trump and Rubio should be really boring, who's gonna watch that?
You're now breathing manually
ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
March 16 2016 14:48 GMT
#67130
On March 16 2016 23:00 farvacola wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 03 2016 07:07 farvacola wrote:
A little birdie who personally knows Paul Ryan told me that there is discussion among the Republican establishment as to Ryan's nomination should Trump be the presumptive nominee come convention time. Should be fun



He did have a coy non-denial today. "Anything can happen".

He'd a fool for to fall on the sword for a bunch of old men who can't admit they're losers though.
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oneofthem
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-03-16 14:52:45
March 16 2016 14:50 GMT
#67131
looking at the carnage on sandinista territory on reddit, sort of think i should feel some empathy but it's just too good. not very healthy
We have fed the heart on fantasies, the heart's grown brutal from the fare, more substance in our enmities than in our love
Deleted User 137586
Profile Joined January 2011
7859 Posts
March 16 2016 14:50 GMT
#67132
I did some digging, it seems the last nominee to win a brokered convention without winning most delegates in the primaries was John W Davis who now holds the record for gaining the least votes as a Democratic general election candidate (28% in 1924).
Cry 'havoc' and let slip the dogs of war
oneofthem
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
March 16 2016 14:56 GMT
#67133
this idea by sandernistas that they are actually representing the democrat base is hilarious. guess what, sanders gets smashed in closed primaries and rely on edge from republican/conservatives to win.
We have fed the heart on fantasies, the heart's grown brutal from the fare, more substance in our enmities than in our love
frazzle
Profile Joined June 2012
United States468 Posts
March 16 2016 14:56 GMT
#67134
Obama's nominee for the court is Merrick Garland.

ScotusBlog ranked him as the most conservative of Obama's potential picks and he seems to be regarded as a moderate.

So, will the Republicans take the moderate now, or hold out and risk a liberal later? I wouldn't be surprised if they change course given the state of the election.
farvacola
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States18864 Posts
March 16 2016 15:01 GMT
#67135
On March 16 2016 23:56 frazzle wrote:
Obama's nominee for the court is Merrick Garland.

ScotusBlog ranked him as the most conservative of Obama's potential picks and he seems to be regarded as a moderate.

So, will the Republicans take the moderate now, or hold out and risk a liberal later? I wouldn't be surprised if they change course given the state of the election.

Dude clerked for Brennan, so I don't know how conservative he'll end up being
"when the Dead Kennedys found out they had skinhead fans, they literally wrote a song titled 'Nazi Punks Fuck Off'"
ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
March 16 2016 15:05 GMT
#67136
Odds on him getting confirmed?

I don't care if this guy is moderate or even a bit conservative. It'd be taking the high road and offering the GOP an olive branch. I do believe in a certain balance to the court.

Hillary will give us some more liberal justices though (but not too left). We won't see another Scalia for a long time, if ever.
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farvacola
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States18864 Posts
March 16 2016 15:07 GMT
#67137
I think he'll be confirmed between 2 and 6 months from today. Not sure I'd take odds on that though
"when the Dead Kennedys found out they had skinhead fans, they literally wrote a song titled 'Nazi Punks Fuck Off'"
oneofthem
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-03-16 15:21:37
March 16 2016 15:10 GMT
#67138
eh since i mostly care about antitrust and trade garland is a solid choice.

reading his 1986 antitrust and state action defending antitrust regulation.

http://www.jstor.org/stable/pdf/796502.pdf

would like to see someone stand up for broadening standing for antitrust but w/e that's not happening anyway
We have fed the heart on fantasies, the heart's grown brutal from the fare, more substance in our enmities than in our love
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States46140 Posts
March 16 2016 15:16 GMT
#67139
He seems like a good and fair man, and definitely not super-liberal. Let's see if Republicans will auto-obstruct Garland, despite Garland's historical bipartisan support.
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States46140 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-03-16 15:25:23
March 16 2016 15:25 GMT
#67140
Live stream: http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2016/03/16/470643431/-i-ve-made-my-decision-on-supreme-court-nominee-president-obama-says?utm_source=facebook.com&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=npr&utm_term=nprnews&utm_content=20160316
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
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