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Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15725 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-03-16 12:49:06
March 16 2016 12:48 GMT
#67101
On March 16 2016 21:37 Kipsate wrote:
Bernie Sanders would win if Reddit/Social media was representative of the American population, but it isn't. According to that Bernie is the next coming of the Messiah and Hillary the spawn of Satan. The internet just created a bit of a bubble thinking that Bernie Sanders has a really great shot.


Agreed, and I think this is why we see Bernie bots continue to be so committed. They don't see plain and simple failure. People don't believe in Bernie. Simple as that.
TheTenthDoc
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9561 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-03-16 12:58:11
March 16 2016 12:54 GMT
#67102
On March 16 2016 20:22 DickMcFanny wrote:
A "huge favourite"?

This race is over, Trump has won. Hillary can't possibly win, voter turnout for republicans is on the highest level in 48 years.
And he hasn't even started on her yet.


Voter turnout is highest in the primaries...and only ~37% of the people think Trump should be the nominee. And yesterday 37% of the Republicans exit polled said that they would seriously consider a third party if Trump won the nomination. How exactly people are convinced this bodes well for his general chances is beyond me, as always.

(it's towards the bottom of http://fivethirtyeight.com/live-blog/march-15-primaries-ohio-florida-results-presidential-election-2016/)

He also probably would have lost Missouri and NC without Rubio in the race. The reality distortion field is something amazing these days.
GreenHorizons
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States23489 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-03-16 13:01:41
March 16 2016 13:01 GMT
#67103
It's not the "American population" Sanders is at odds with, it's the current "voting population".
"People like to look at history and think 'If that was me back then, I would have...' We're living through history, and the truth is, whatever you are doing now is probably what you would have done then" "Scratch a Liberal..."
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
March 16 2016 13:02 GMT
#67104
Primaries are not the general elections. Only 25% of the population identify as republican. 36% as democrat. The rest of independent and the overwhelming majority of them did not vote.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15725 Posts
March 16 2016 13:07 GMT
#67105
On March 16 2016 22:01 GreenHorizons wrote:
It's not the "American population" Sanders is at odds with, it's the current "voting population".


You say this as if it means anything. He can't win an election, end of story.

By my shitty morning math calculations, in order to win the nomination, Sanders now needs to beat Clinton by an average of 14% in every remaining state.
oneofthem
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
March 16 2016 13:08 GMT
#67106
On March 16 2016 22:01 GreenHorizons wrote:
It's not the "American population" Sanders is at odds with, it's the current "voting population".

he'd get rekt worse in a general
We have fed the heart on fantasies, the heart's grown brutal from the fare, more substance in our enmities than in our love
Deleted User 137586
Profile Joined January 2011
7859 Posts
March 16 2016 13:11 GMT
#67107
On March 16 2016 22:07 Mohdoo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 16 2016 22:01 GreenHorizons wrote:
It's not the "American population" Sanders is at odds with, it's the current "voting population".


You say this as if it means anything. He can't win an election, end of story.

By my shitty morning math calculations, in order to win the nomination, Sanders now needs to beat Clinton by an average of 14% in every remaining state.


I ended up with the same last night, but other people are quoting 58%. Are they banking on all super delegates going to Bernie's camp?

Cry 'havoc' and let slip the dogs of war
Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15725 Posts
March 16 2016 13:13 GMT
#67108
On March 16 2016 22:11 Ghanburighan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 16 2016 22:07 Mohdoo wrote:
On March 16 2016 22:01 GreenHorizons wrote:
It's not the "American population" Sanders is at odds with, it's the current "voting population".


You say this as if it means anything. He can't win an election, end of story.

By my shitty morning math calculations, in order to win the nomination, Sanders now needs to beat Clinton by an average of 14% in every remaining state.


I ended up with the same last night, but other people are quoting 58%. Are they banking on all super delegates going to Bernie's camp?



Well winning by 14% means winning 57 to 43%. My calculation wasn't with the exactly right number of delegates, so it's pretty much the same.
mahrgell
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Germany3943 Posts
March 16 2016 13:13 GMT
#67109
On March 16 2016 22:11 Ghanburighan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 16 2016 22:07 Mohdoo wrote:
On March 16 2016 22:01 GreenHorizons wrote:
It's not the "American population" Sanders is at odds with, it's the current "voting population".


You say this as if it means anything. He can't win an election, end of story.

By my shitty morning math calculations, in order to win the nomination, Sanders now needs to beat Clinton by an average of 14% in every remaining state.


I ended up with the same last night, but other people are quoting 58%. Are they banking on all super delegates going to Bernie's camp?


Probably refering to a 58:42 split? (57:43 would be +14 but make them even, I guess he has to really overtake)
TheTenthDoc
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9561 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-03-16 13:15:25
March 16 2016 13:15 GMT
#67110
On March 16 2016 22:11 Ghanburighan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 16 2016 22:07 Mohdoo wrote:
On March 16 2016 22:01 GreenHorizons wrote:
It's not the "American population" Sanders is at odds with, it's the current "voting population".


You say this as if it means anything. He can't win an election, end of story.

By my shitty morning math calculations, in order to win the nomination, Sanders now needs to beat Clinton by an average of 14% in every remaining state.


I ended up with the same last night, but other people are quoting 58%. Are they banking on all super delegates going to Bernie's camp?



I think for Bernie to win all remaining states 58-42 (as 538 says he needs) there would have to be a Clinton meltdown going on that would likely turn off the superdelegates.
Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-03-16 13:20:10
March 16 2016 13:20 GMT
#67111
Basically short of Clinton actually being indicted or her suffering a stroke it ain't happening.
WriterXiao8~~
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands21963 Posts
March 16 2016 13:20 GMT
#67112
On March 16 2016 22:15 TheTenthDoc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 16 2016 22:11 Ghanburighan wrote:
On March 16 2016 22:07 Mohdoo wrote:
On March 16 2016 22:01 GreenHorizons wrote:
It's not the "American population" Sanders is at odds with, it's the current "voting population".


You say this as if it means anything. He can't win an election, end of story.

By my shitty morning math calculations, in order to win the nomination, Sanders now needs to beat Clinton by an average of 14% in every remaining state.


I ended up with the same last night, but other people are quoting 58%. Are they banking on all super delegates going to Bernie's camp?



I think for Bernie to win all remaining states 58-42 (as 538 says he needs) there would have to be a Clinton meltdown going on that would likely turn off the superdelegates.

it is generally believed that the super delegates will vote for whoever holds the majority in the end.
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15725 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-03-16 13:37:36
March 16 2016 13:33 GMT
#67113
Man, The Sanders subreddit is downright depressing right now.

[image loading]

So many posts of poor college students sending their rent money to a dead campaign.
ragz_gt
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
9172 Posts
March 16 2016 13:53 GMT
#67114
So Bernie campaign is a sneaky tax on the poor? /s
I'm not an otaku, I'm a specialist.
DickMcFanny
Profile Blog Joined September 2015
Ireland1076 Posts
March 16 2016 13:53 GMT
#67115
Well, at least they express their dissatisfaction with the current financial system.

We didn't abolish slavery over night, we didn't abolish feudalism in one go, and we won't abolish capitalism without major effort.
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iPlaY.NettleS
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Australia4360 Posts
March 16 2016 13:53 GMT
#67116
Boehner endorses Ryan for president.
Bizarre.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e7PvoI6gvQs
Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15725 Posts
March 16 2016 13:59 GMT
#67117
On March 16 2016 22:53 iPlaY.NettleS wrote:
Boehner endorses Ryan for president.
Bizarre.


...

This election just keeps on getting more insane.
farvacola
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States18839 Posts
March 16 2016 14:00 GMT
#67118
On March 03 2016 07:07 farvacola wrote:
A little birdie who personally knows Paul Ryan told me that there is discussion among the Republican establishment as to Ryan's nomination should Trump be the presumptive nominee come convention time. Should be fun

"when the Dead Kennedys found out they had skinhead fans, they literally wrote a song titled 'Nazi Punks Fuck Off'"
Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
March 16 2016 14:11 GMT
#67119
Isn't it far too late to be getting a new canidate? Or is this some Republican convention structure that I am not aware of.
WriterXiao8~~
Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15725 Posts
March 16 2016 14:12 GMT
#67120
On March 16 2016 23:11 Kipsate wrote:
Isn't it far too late to be getting a new canidate? Or is this some Republican convention structure that I am not aware of.


My understanding is that the RNC could nominate anyone they please at the convention.

Not so sure Ryan is exactly a strong choice, though...
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